Canada iTMS November 30?

[stefman]

I feel for you Canadians...after having to endure a visit from Dubya today, the least we could have done is flipped the switch on the Canadian-iTunes Music Store

Maybe Apple doesn't want to be associated with Dubya and changed the launch at the last minute.

Why couldn't Dubya cancel his visit and leave us to have an iTunes Music Store

 

[nagromme]

It's over 6 hours until December in Vancouver

 

[manthas]

It's over 6 hours until December in Vancouver

Didn't think of that... Means that I'll have to stay up until 3am!

 

[nek]

That stupid tax should be removed and file sharing of commercial copyrighted works should be banned. After all, if you're paying for a crime you didn't commit, what's stopping you from commiting it? This tax only clears the conscience of Canadian pirates, and in the end it's no good for the whole system.

We won't even talk about the people who pirate media and don't even *know* about this tax...

The purpose of the levy in Canada is to allow consumers to make legal copies (as many as you want) of the music that you buy and then the owners of the music receive money for the copies. Its not to make up for all the illegal music distribution. I never really thought about it, but Apple's copy protection actually limits the legal rights of consumers. Someone should try suing Apple for infringement of rights.

 

[zim]

The purpose of the levy in Canada is to allow consumers to make legal copies (as many as you want) of the music that you buy and then the owners of the music receive money for the copies. Its not to make up for all the illegal music distribution. I never really thought about it, but Apple's copy protection actually limits the legal rights of consumers. Someone should try suing Apple for infringement of rights.

How does it limit? You can burn as many times as you want, as long as you change up the playlist every so often... or are you being sarcastic?

 

[stcanard]

The purpose of the levy in Canada is to allow consumers to make legal copies (as many as you want) of the music that you buy and then the owners of the music receive money for the copies.

Actually, no. I believe if you look into it the levy is actually to reimburse copyright holders for revenues they have been deprived of due to illegal copying.

The idea that it allows us to copy, since we're paying it anyway, is something that has been proposed but has never been tested in court. Without any precedent, one must assume that the rules of copyright still take precedence and copying for other than fair or personal use purposes is a violation.

 

[infectbda]

I have a feeling the Canada store will launch shortly. They've been working on something all day other then updating the current stores, which they are in the process of doing right now.

Edit: either that, or they have given up for the day. Don't blame Apple. Blame the Candian record groups.

 

[frozenstar]

The purpose of the levy in Canada is to allow consumers to make legal copies (as many as you want) of the music that you buy and then the owners of the music receive money for the copies. Its not to make up for all the illegal music distribution. I never really thought about it, but Apple's copy protection actually limits the legal rights of consumers. Someone should try suing Apple for infringement of rights.

The purpose is not to allow unlimited duplication of purchased music. The purpose is to allow individuals to make a reasonable number of copies for personal use. FairPlay meets that requirement. Thus, a law suit claiming "infringement of rights" would never fly.

 

[chameeeleon]

Store just updated, new free single etc. No iTunes Canada tho .

 

[infectbda]

But I'd like to point out that the new song won't download. If that means anything or not, I don't know. Seems like they aren't completely done with updates for the week.

I really have a feeling they hit a snag at the last minute with some industry group, and have been working all day to try and smooth things out.

 

[Sharewaredemon]

Store just updated, new free single etc. No iTunes Canada tho .

That having been said I couldn't download the free single it said it was being modified

[Edit} infectbda beat me to it.

 

[chameeeleon]

You're right - no new videos either.

 

[the_mole1314]

Seems like a half-ass update.

 

[reckless_0001]

It's about time something started to happen...

 

[boostventilator]

There would be no point from a Marketing standpoint for Apple to launch late in the day.

Also, from a marketing point of view it would be difficult for Apple Canada to compete with Dubya's visit to Ottawa and Halifax. Maybe they are waiting for the dust to settle so the media can focus on the launch???

 

[infectbda]

I really think they might be working on getting up the Canada store as we speak.

 

[HoserHead]

I really think they might be working on getting up the Canada store as we speak.

Why? Just a hunch?

 

[MattG]

I'm excited and I don't even live in Canada!

 

[Sharewaredemon]

Why? Just a hunch?

Cause the US store just changed.
There is a new free single, yet you cannont download it.

 

[infectbda]

Just a feeling.

And that stuff up there too.

And for some reason i seem really excited too, even though I don't live in Canada. I guess I've just seen so many ppl complaining about it.

 

[reckless_0001]

Cause the US store just changed.
There is a new free single, yet you cannont download it.

What song is it?

 

[Yvan256]

who really gives a **** about if downloading music falls under the dictionary definition of stealing. This is becoming really annoying and useless.

Wouldn't you find me stupid if I kept saying that I'm flying around with my car? Wouldn't you want to correct me and point out to me that I'm *driving* my car around, not "flying" around?

Yes, you're right. I'm only arguing about the dictionnary definition of stealing. But that's because people keep saying copying music is stealing when in fact it's not: it's piracy.

And as I said in my post (if you'd bother reading it all before sending an angry response), both theft and piracy are illegal, immoral and remove compensation for people's works.

Just trying to point out the difference between theft and piracy.

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I strongly suggest you check out the CCPA website, and maybe you'll learn that you're not actually helping all the artist whose songs you "steal".

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I never said that piracy was ok, I was only pointing out that Canadians already pay a tax as a fine for being guilty of piracy before even acting.

What the CCPA does with the taxes is NOT my problem. In fact, all they do with this tax is give a reason for pirates to clear their conscience.

As for P2P downloading, it's so full of crap these days that it's quite difficult to find stuff you're looking for. I suspect the RIAA, CCPA and others to fill the network with noisy files, blank files, etc. That's fine with me, they're trying to fight the system from the inside and render it useless instead of sending lawsuits for millions of $$$.

Now please for the love of god can we stop talking about this!!!!

As soon as people stop refering to piracy as "stealing".

Where is my iTMS?????

Yeah, where is our iTMS!? Less than three hours left! Hurry up!

Oh man... I do hope the tracks are 0.99$CAN, or we'll never hear the end of THAT one. ;-)

 

[MattG]

I just closed and opened the U.S. Music Store, and the single of the week reverted back to the old one.

 

[chameeeleon]

Store just reverted to last week's for me, but now all of the images are broken chain pictures.

(I love the play-by-play we're doing here).

*Edit* I should've known someone was bound to beat me to that one. Although, for the record, he didn't mention the broken chain pictures that followed, lol.

 

[Yvan256]

Right, except I would be more disappointed in the rumors, not that Apple didn't deliver what was said to happen.

Steve Jobs himself said that iTMS Canada was coming in november. Watch the U2 iPod presentation.