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iPhone 17 Pro Can’t believe Apple released an iPhone Pro that feels this cheap.

I can tell you that for whatever the blend of reasons are, my 17 pro max gets significantly less hot when charging, and when running apps. Its especially noticeable when I am holding the phone while its charging with a magsafe battery pack.
 
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GuruZac said:
While it didn’t drop on concrete, it landed on deck wood.
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Big difference. Wood isn’t abrasive.

Edit: and it’s really soft compared to most types of tiles, bricks and concrete.

The point is aluminum may be great for thermal conductivity, but it’s a terrible external material to create a phone from.

My wife just told me she loves my iPhone Air and wants to switch from her 16 Pro Max to it.
 
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ArchEtech said:
I can tell you that for whatever the blend of reasons are, my 17 pro max gets significantly less hot when charging, and when running apps. It’s especially noticeable when I am holding the phone while it’s charging with a magsafe battery pack.
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I can tell you that my air only gets slightly warm by the bump and I’ve been abusing it for 2 days.

It doesn’t have a vapor chamber or an aluminum body lol
 
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Mikey86uk said:
Not a bad shout! Im just not sure how id cope with the battery and I don't want to carry a MagSafe battery around with me!

Let's see if the Air gets updated next year and see what that brings.
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I’ve been using it since launch day and I can confirm that the battery is definitely not the best. But it’s not bad either. About the same as my Pro 15.
 
For years, people have been complaining about a few things in regards to the Pro and Pro Max models.

- We want even more battery life
- The phone gets too hot
- The design is boring, Apple needs to change it

This year they have given us all of the above, in addition to better cameras etc. At the same price as always despite the tariff situation and the economic climate. I think its a big win for us and for Apple.
 
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Eh, I think it's pretty great. Coming from a 14 Pro which might have been shinier, but I use a case so I didn't see the edge often anyway. The durability upgrade is impressive.

If you use a case, you should be fine.
 
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SmOgER said:
You can't be serious.

Their issue wasn't titanium poorly dissipating heat. It was the back glass. Side rails are not meant to cool your chip in the first place, not to mention that titanium is orders of magnitude better heat conductor than glass (which was the problematic part, not titanium.) And "issue" is a strong word. Their Air is thinner than any Pro, doesn't have any vapour chamber and still manages to match base 17 in (sustained) performance.

To add to that, performance gain 15Pro --> 16Pro was actually bigger than with 17Pro --> 18Pro. And if you want to go even further, their vapour chamber on 17Pro is not actually connected to A19Pro chip in any meaningful way. It's predominantly cooling the battery. In turn, as we already saw in practice, sustained performance is not bad but certainly not astonishing, groundbreaking, or anything beyond what are their usual year to year improvements.
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Copium.
 
What do you have to say about the multiple reports (yeah, already) of people dropping their pros with cases on, and finding a damaged chassis? Are we okay with this?

Let me see if I have this straight.

First it’s - don’t worry about the material, it helps keep the phone cooler.

Then it’s - aluminum unibody is sooo strong. Most durable iPhone yet.

Then it’s - don’t worry about how the phone feels or looks, you’ll put a case on it and you’ll never see it.

And now, phones are falling 4 feet to the ground with cases on them, and the corners are getting crushed like a Coke can.

So not only are cased iPhones being insulated, which directly contradicts the first point of the thermal advantages of its design, but they’re also still getting damaged. That makes point two just another thing you people tell yourselves.
 
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NotApplicable said:
My point is that, with so many generational changes (new silicon, new power management, new vapor chamber, new aluminum unibody), the fact that the new iPhone thermally performs better than the last does not prove the move to aluminum was necessary to achieve a majority of those gains.
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So you know better than engineers and r&d scientists working at Apple?
 
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We're talking about phone materials, and no one complained about durability all these years. Or you think only the Pro phones are meant to be durable?
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Read the title of the thread, bro. It’s about pro iPhones feeling cheap. Not base models.
 
bueller11 said:
Read the title of the thread, bro. It’s about pro iPhones feeling cheap. Not base models.
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Well, some are talking about durability, pretending this is the first time we're seeing aluminium. Others are saying they feel cheap, like MacBooks, iPads and aluminium Apple Watches suddenly feel cheap.

Sorry, but this feels like a lot of people trying to justify not buying these phones. This *literally* happens with every generation of iPhone. Or any Apple device, really. It's one thing not to like something, or not wanting to spend money on something, it's another to cope by turning it into some dramatic issue. Again - this happens *every* generation. Every. Single. One.

But this time it's real, I'm sure.
 
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aevan said:
So you know better than engineers and r&d scientists working at Apple?
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aevan said:
Well, some are talking about durability, pretending this is the first time we're seeing aluminium. Others are saying they feel cheap, like MacBooks, iPads and aluminium Apple Watches suddenly feel cheap.

Sorry, but this feels like a lot of people trying to justify not buying these phones. This *literally* happens with every generation of iPhone. Or any Apple device, really. It's one thing not to like something, or not wanting to spend money on something, it's another to cope by turning it into some dramatic issue. Again - this happens *every* generation. Every. Single. One.

But this time it's real, I'm sure.
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No one is coping lol Ive owned every pro max that ever existed. It sounds like you have a hard time listening to people’s criticisms so you probably shouldn’t be on a public forum that’s meant for this exact reason. It’s made of a cheaper material, this is a fact, and people who spend their money on a product have every right to make any remark about them.

An aluminum body with the antenna lines looks cheap. Reminiscent of an iPhone 6. And a rectangular reflective looking glass pane doesn’t look anywhere near as sleek as a single piece of glass.
 
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bueller11 said:
No one is coping lol Ive owned every pro max that ever existed. It sounds like you have a hard time listening to people’s criticisms so you probably shouldn’t be on a public forum that’s meant for this exact reason.
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Nah, I don't have a hard time - I like debating like this. Also, these aren't really criticisms - you make it sound like this is anything more than "I don't like thing".


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It’s made of a cheaper material,
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For a good reason. Since when is the price of the material the reason we buy high performance pocket computers? All these years it was "Apple puts form over function too much". Well - here's your function.

If you want something fancy - the Air is it. It's titanium, it's shiny and looks great.


bueller11 said:
this is a fact, and people who spend their money on a product have every right to make any remark about them.
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Most of the people here didn't spend money and are not planning to. Most of them are 16 and older owners who don't plan on upgrading - and are trying to convince themselves that the new phones suck. The truth is - every design comes with compromises, but these are probably the most "pro" iPhones we've ever gotten.
 
Andeddu said:
What? iPhones aren’t much less powerful than MacBooks and are in chassis that are 5-6 times smaller.

Heat dissipation is much more important on the iPhone than it is on the MacBook!
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iPhones produce less heat than MacBooks. Heat dissipation might be more CHALLENGING to accomplish for the iPhone because it’s smaller but it’s not much more important than it is on a MacBook for performance.
 
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aevan said:
If you want something fancy - the Air is it. It's titanium, it's shiny and looks great.
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Are we just saying this out loud now? The new Pro phone doesn’t feel or look cheap, but to avoid a cheap feeling or looking phone, get the Air because it…doesn’t feel or look cheap? Are you serious?
 
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