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OK, here is the 9 PM EDT Update.

AT&T has recorded all calls from the Watch as "Talk", even the 2 from the room that has absolutely zero Cellular signal. It is a concrete Hurricane room. The iPhone was in Airplane mode for all calls so no chance of it actually using the iPhone's connection(s). I can't trust AT&T to report correctly activity on the Watch's line just yet without further testing to see if I can get any Wi-Fi calls recorded for the Watch.

It is still a waste of time trying Apple, the reps that we can talk to don't have a clue as to how the Watch is actually designed to work. Things do seem to be improving with the watchOS 4.1 beta that added a Wi-Fi toggle to the Control Center so maybe someone at Apple really knows what needs to be done!

Dave

Not all apple reps are incompetent. Ive had 2 now who have escalated this issue to engineering. The first time the engineers said for me to update my iOS on phone. That was the week that 11.0.2 came out. So on monday I spoke to an apple senior advisor who saw that I had updated and the issue still persisted. So they filed another escalation and I submitted more watch data logs. I should hear back from engineering this Friday.
 
Right, I have been tracking your progress updates from Apple. You have T-Mobile, correct? If so we have AT&T, T-Mobile and I believe one EE customer earlier in the thread all with the same behavior.

Dave
 
Right, I have been tracking your progress updates from Apple. You have T-Mobile, correct? If so we have AT&T, T-Mobile and I believe one EE customer earlier in the thread all with the same behavior.

Dave
It’s not a carrier-specific issue. It’s an Apple issue. They tried to make the LTE watch fool proof because there are too many options now. You can call via Bluetooth, via Wi-Fi with Continuity, via Wi-Fi with Calls on Other Drvices, via carrier Wi-Fi Calling (e.g. DIGITS on T-Mobile), and via LTE.

If Apple enabled discrete toggles for every one in f these types of calls, they would have a disaster on their hands from the support standpoint. But, without the discrete toggles, they still created a disaster. Perhaps, when LTE is activated, there should no longer be the Wi-Fi Calls on other devices feature available. Except, if you have two watches paired to the same iPhone, you can still find that toggle in Settings > Phone > Calls on Other Devices for the LTE watch when another watch is made active in the Watch app.

The Wi-Fi Calling is now paired with a phone line via a carrier-specific system (e.g. DIGITS on T-Mobile) and not via Apple’s iCloud like it is with non-LTE models.
 
Nobody said it was a carrier issue, these are just data points in the testing. The tests we have run show that our LTE Watches are not properly using Wi-Fi calling before failing over to a more battery intrusive LTE call.

In my case on AT&T these Wi-Fi calls should be listed as SPWIFI (NumberSync Wi-Fi) instead of PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling).

To simplify: The Watch uses Bluetooth to the iPhone first, then Wi-Fi to the iPhone second and then a big jump to LTE thus skipping true Wi-Fi Calling from the Watch. My personal view is that the LTE Watch should have the same options as our iPhone's. The ability to manage all 3 settings discreetly. With only 1 difference, it should actually favor Wi-Fi calling over LTE to conserve battery as described by Apple. Note:this is not a disaster on the iPhone. The iPhone by design favors LTE over Wi-Fi by default since it has a much larger battery.

The LTE Toggle is fine on the Watch, even the colors make sense: White - enabled but not active, Green - active, Grayed out - disabled or not configured. Wi-Fi calling should work exactly like the iPhone and I think that is what Apple intends based on all their documentation.

The random chatter about a second watch has noting to do with the basic issue and is just a red herring.

Dave
 
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Nobody said it was a carrier issue, these are just data points in the testing. The tests we have run show that our LTE Watches are not properly using Wi-Fi calling before failing over to a more battery intrusive LTE call.

In my case on AT&T these Wi-Fi calls should be listed as SPWIFI (NumberSync Wi-Fi) instead of PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling).

To simplify: The Watch uses Bluetooth to the iPhone first, then Wi-Fi to the iPhone second and then a big jump to LTE thus skipping true Wi-Fi Calling from the Watch. My personal view is that the LTE Watch should have the same options as our iPhone's. The ability to manage all 3 settings discreetly. With only 1 difference, it should actually favor Wi-Fi calling over LTE to conserve battery as described by Apple. Note:this is not a disaster on the iPhone. The iPhone by design favors LTE over Wi-Fi by default since it has a much larger battery.

The LTE Toggle is fine on the Watch, even the colors make sense: White - enabled but not active, Green - active, Grayed out - disabled or not configured. Wi-Fi calling should work exactly like the iPhone and I think that is what Apple intends based on all their documentation.

The random chatter about a second watch has noting to do with the basic issue and is just a red herring.

Dave

How does this "random chatter about a second watch" have nothing to do with it if it specifically enables or disables Wi-Fi Calls on Other Devices? According to you, the Series 3 Watch with LTE enabled should not be using Wi-Fi Calls on Other Devices and it should be using the SPWIFI (Service Provider Wi-Fi, aka NumberSync on AT&T or DIGITS on T-Mobile). So, the fact that this toggle shows up in Settings > Phone > Calls on Other Devices means that it's a bug which may very well be affecting how Wi-Fi calling is occurring or not occurring.
 
For clarity, Microcell calls are WIFI calls that ding your cell minutes. One might expect them to appear on the bill as cell calls (AT&T).

Also, I have intermittent calling on WIFI. I have to hit retry a few times. The watch is very slow to change connection types.
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Nobody said it was a carrier issue, these are just data points in the testing. The tests we have run show that our LTE Watches are not properly using Wi-Fi calling before failing over to a more battery intrusive LTE call.

In my case on AT&T these Wi-Fi calls should be listed as SPWIFI (NumberSync Wi-Fi) instead of PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling).

To simplify: The Watch uses Bluetooth to the iPhone first, then Wi-Fi to the iPhone second and then a big jump to LTE thus skipping true Wi-Fi Calling from the Watch. My personal view is that the LTE Watch should have the same options as our iPhone's. The ability to manage all 3 settings discreetly. With only 1 difference, it should actually favor Wi-Fi calling over LTE to conserve battery as described by Apple. Note:this is not a disaster on the iPhone. The iPhone by design favors LTE over Wi-Fi by default since it has a much larger battery.

The LTE Toggle is fine on the Watch, even the colors make sense: White - enabled but not active, Green - active, Grayed out - disabled or not configured. Wi-Fi calling should work exactly like the iPhone and I think that is what Apple intends based on all their documentation.

The random chatter about a second watch has noting to do with the basic issue and is just a red herring.

Dave

So you are saying that the watch does not connect to WIFI directly, but to the phone via WIFI...then uses the phones WIFI connection?
 
It is not according to me, AT&T has defined it clearly it as SPWIFI (NumberSync Wi-Fi) instead of PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling) that the iPhone uses. The LTE Watch in Wi-Fi mode is just not using this capability according to AT&T for me and T-Mobile for @deadworlds.

The toggle does not show up for an active Series 3 (GPS & LTE) Watch that has a carrier plan.

I received detailed billing as part of my plan and it shows exactly how each call is recorded by the AT&T network. The information is updated every 3 hours.

Here is the Apple Documentation in question:
Phone Calls Make a call with Wi-Fi calling, and enable Wi-Fi calling on both your iPhone and Apple Watch.

Note: You can make emergency calls over Wi-Fi, but when possible, use iPhone over a cellular connection instead—your location information is more accurate.

Enable Wi-Fi calling on iPhone. On iPhone, go to Settings > Phone and turn on both Wi-Fi Calling and Calls on Other Devices.

Enable Wi-Fi calling on Apple Watch. Open the Apple Watch app on iPhone, tap My Watch, tap Phone, then turn on Wi-Fi Calls. If you don’t see the setting, make sure you enabled Wi-Fi calling on iPhone.

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If you have a Cellular plan on the active Watch, the Wi-Fi Calling option "Does Not Appear" on this screen.

Dave
 
If you have 2 watches, the non active watch will have the wifi calling toggle in the watch app phone settings. As soon as you switch them , the toggle goes away for that watch that becomes active.
 
For clarity, Microcell calls are WIFI calls that ding your cell minutes. One might expect them to appear on the bill as cell calls (AT&T).

Also, I have intermittent calling on WIFI. I have to hit retry a few times. The watch is very slow to change connection types.
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So you are saying that the watch does not connect to WIFI directly, but to the phone via WIFI...then uses the phones WIFI connection?
The MicroCell was just a test to see what happened, and yes the calls appear as normal cellular calls.

Yes, the LTE Watch is not using Wi-Fi directly to make a Wi-Fi call. It will attempt to connect to the host iPhone if it is on the same Wi-Fi network. You can see this by placing your Watch away from your iPhone and disable Bluetooth and make a call from your Wi-Fi connected LTE Watch. After the call go look at your iPhone and you will see the call originated there.

The challenging behavior is to get the LTE Watch to make a true Wi-Fi Call while the paired iPhone is in Airplane mode.

Dave
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If you have 2 watches, the non active watch will have the wifi calling toggle in the watch app phone settings. As soon as you switch them , the toggle goes away for that watch that becomes active.
Again, we are not worried about how two Watches work with the toggle. The issue at hand is how to get the "Active" LTE watch to make a true Wi-Fi Call without using LTE behind the scene.

Can you verify that your "Active" LTE Watch can make a true Wi-Fi call without your iPhone or without using LTE?

Dave
 
Deadworlds, I wish I could agree with you... but all 3 of my Senior Advisors and countless hours/escalation/engineering tickets etc... all said the same feel good "crap". If only they actually passed it up and the engineers called back to verify. If you really want to know what's up ask them to tell you their known issues as they have a common intranet list that users are experiencing and ours aren't on it = ) That's why they told me to return and buy another, hoping it was hardware, or enough actual experienced users will log calls into the abyss for a potential update; over people just wearing them as a fashion statement... exact words by my last Apple SA.

My new one comes in tomorrow can't wait- will have to play around and verify if any of my issues are fixed (Hoping it was Hardware). I'm sure this wifi calling will still be one! = P

Not all apple reps are incompetent. Ive had 2 now who have escalated this issue to engineering. The first time the engineers said for me to update my iOS on phone. That was the week that 11.0.2 came out. So on monday I spoke to an apple senior advisor who saw that I had updated and the issue still persisted. So they filed another escalation and I submitted more watch data logs. I should hear back from engineering this Friday.
 
I have a clarification to my report last night. It turns out that my Watch did not actually make a call via it's own Wi-Fi on the Hurricane room test. It turned out that the Watch used Wi-Fi to connect to my iPhone and actually used the iPhone's Wi-Fi Calling carrier feature to complete the 2 calls using PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling).

Today, I had AT&T remove my Watch's line and then I wiped my iPhone and my Watch and tried setup again as both new devices. It was quick and easy but still no success in getting the Watch to actually make it's own Wi-Fi Call!

Dave
 
I have a clarification to my report last night. It turns out that my Watch did not actually make a call via it's own Wi-Fi on the Hurricane room test. It turned out that the Watch used Wi-Fi to connect to my iPhone and actually used the iPhone's Wi-Fi Calling carrier feature to complete the 2 calls using PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling).

Today, I had AT&T remove my Watch's line and then I wiped my iPhone and my Watch and tried setup again as both new devices. It was quick and easy but still no success in getting the Watch to actually make it's own Wi-Fi Call!

Dave

Dave,

Have you tried removing the cellular plan from the watch, restart watch, then activate the cellar again. Right after activation, make sure phone is in airplane mode and watch switches over to WiFi, turn cellular toggle off on watch.. Then place a "WiFi" call? I ask because only in this manner will my watch place a real Wifi Call, and even then it will only place 1 - 2 calls.
 
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Hey @deadworlds, no I had not tried your exact test. So being a good field tester, I ran your test case and I was able to reproduce your results. I was able to make 4 Calls, first 1 failed but Calls 2-4 all were successful. However, I don't have the Call detail from AT&T for a few more hours to know how AT&T logged the calls.

At no time during this test did the Wi-Fi Calling slider appear for my Watch on the iPhone Settings or within the Watch app. I only tested for about 10 minutes but once I took my iPhone out of Airplane mode all Calls failed immediately. So either I ran out of time or just taking the iPhone out of Airplane mode was enough to halt the test.

At no time did I "Enable" the Cellular setting on the Watch.

ETA: 10/13 @9:50 AM: More bad news, Calls 2-3 have caught up to Call 4 from the Watch and all 3 calls even while the Cellular setting was not enabled have been logged by AT&T as Cellular calls from my Watch's line of service!

Dave
 
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I also noticed that if the phone is off, all of my notifications cease to be received by the watch. Is this normal?
 
Hey @deadworlds, no I had not tried your exact test. So being a good field tester, I ran your test case and I was able to reproduce your results. I was able to make 4 Calls, first 1 failed but Calls 2-4 all were successful. However, I don't have the Call detail from AT&T for a few more hours to know how AT&T logged the calls.

At no time during this test did the Wi-Fi Calling slider appear for my Watch on the iPhone Settings or within the Watch app. I only tested for about 10 minutes but once I took my iPhone out of Airplane mode all Calls failed immediately. So either I ran out of time or just taking the iPhone out of Airplane mode was enough to halt the test.

At no time did I "Enable" the Cellular setting on the Watch.

ETA: 10/13 @9:50 AM: More bad news, Calls 2-3 have caught up to Call 4 from the Watch and all 3 calls even while the Cellular setting was not enabled have been logged by AT&T as Cellular calls from my Watch's line of service!

Dave

WOW thats very interesting that ATT logged those calls as Cellular Calls. When I do the same test, t-mobile logs the calls as WiFi calls and they originate from my iPhone number, Obviously this happens because DIGITS masks the watch's true cell number.

In about 30 minutes I should be receiving a call back from apple to see what their engineers said. Im keeping my fingers crossed they say something other than "Go exchange for a new watch"
 
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Wait one minute, if it shows as Wi-Fi from your iPhone number then your watch was using a Wi-Fi connection to your iPhone and the iPhone was using Wi-Fi Calling to the Carrier. That's what AT&T has confirmed to me as we have discussed the issue.

Well good luck and as a side note I don't see any availability for most LTE models within a 900 Mile radius from me. I really hope that is not the solution. Other option is Nov. 10 in-store or 2-3 wks shipping.

Dave
 
Well good luck and as a side note I don't see any availability for most LTE models within a 900 Mile radius from me. I really hope that is not the solution. Other option is Nov. 10 in-store or 2-3 wks shipping.

Dave

I have two coming = ) One from Apple and Best Buy... BB is turning around the sport models near me in about 2 days if you pay an extra $5 for next day. (I was told Nov on my Apple one so I ordered the BB one coming to be delivered today and sure enough my Apple one shipped out from China ahhh lol)
 
Wait one minute, if it shows as Wi-Fi from your iPhone number then your watch was using a Wi-Fi connection to your iPhone and the iPhone was using Wi-Fi Calling to the Carrier. That's what AT&T has confirmed to me as we have discussed the issue.

Well good luck and as a side note I don't see any availability for most LTE models within a 900 Mile radius from me. I really hope that is not the solution. Other option is Nov. 10 in-store or 2-3 wks shipping.

Dave

I too also thought the watch made the call using wifi through my iPhone, but I always put the phone in Airplane mode. Even calls made Via cellular on the watch, with iPhone in airplane mode, show up on my t-mobile account as being made by the iPhone. I think its really just how T-mobile masks the numbers using Digits, because even calls made from the watch will show up as my iPhone on caller ID.
 
OK, sounds like a difference between T-Mobile and AT&T. I can see both lines in my detailed billing. So far only Cellular Calls on the Watch's number. AT&T has 2 distinct types of Wi-Fi Calling: PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling) from iPhone (Primary Device) and SPWIFI (NumberSync Wi-Fi) from the Watch (Wearable Device).

AT&T's NumberSync shows my iPhone's phone number for my Watch's Cellular Calls just like you see on your CID. From the outside the Watch's number is supposed to be invisible as long as NumberSync is active.

Dave
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I have two coming = ) One from Apple and Best Buy... BB is turning around the sport models near me in about 2 days if you pay an extra $5 for next day. (I was told Nov on my Apple one so I ordered the BB one coming to be delivered today and sure enough my Apple one shipped out from China ahhh lol)
Not so lucky for me, the Nike+ (GPS & Cellular) is Nov.10 even from BestBuy.

Dave
 
Just got off the phone with Apple senior advisor. They wanted to collect more screen shots of my settings including some WiFi Information. They sent them back to engineering and I will have to wait once again for them to call me back later next week.
 
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Great, thanks for the update. I will have time on Monday to play dialing for Apple Support round and round since I have exhausted AT&T's Support from the Carrier side of the problem.

Dave
 
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Update 10/13 5:59PM PDT: At about 4PM I received another call from a senior advisor, they wanted yet more screenshots of some settings. Im not sure if the previous advisor I spoke to earlier today made a mistake or what happened. Anyway, this particular advisor told me that she personally knew the engineer and she spent a good 30-40 minutes testing out various scenarios with me. These involved turning the phone off and making sure watch was on WIFI while she attempted to call me. Not to my surprise I never did receive a call on the watch, but the advisor told me that on her end the phone never rang and it never went to voice mail, it was just dead silent.

She then had me turn the phone off and attempt to make an outbound wifi call from the watch, and as we all know, all calls failed. I appreciated her willingness to try some things our. I think now she had a better understanding of whats going on.

She then proceeded to get screen shots of WiFi calling enabled setting on phone, calling on other devices, iCloud account, faceTim settings, and 2 wifi network settings. She also go a screen shot of the Watch.app phone settings, where the Wifi Calling toggle is. She was surprised it was not showing up and I explained that it will only show up if I remove the cell plan from the watch. She thought that was very peculiar and wrote that down too. I also mentioned that I knew at least 2 people on ATT that are also having the issue, but im not sure if she made a note of it.

She also tried to contact the engineer working on the case so she could get live feedback from them, but was unable to make contact. So she wrote a report and sent it back to engineering. I have a callback scheduled for Monday 2PM PDT.


Update 10:26pm PDT: I removed the cellular plan from my watch again, and as we already knew, in the watch.app phone setting WiFi calling toggle now appeared. So I decided to put my phone in airplane mode and made sure watch was connected to WiFi. I then placed 2 successful WiFi calls that correctly showed up on caller ID as my normal phone number. Things are very strange here.

Update 11:45PM PDT: I re-activated the cellular plan on the phone, and of course now lost the ability to make wifi calls. Tests where done by putting iPhone into airplane modre and turning off cellular on the watch. Watch switched to wifi, all calls failed, nothing new here.
After re-enabling the Cellular toggle on the watch I went into the settings->General->About on the watch. Then I noticed that there was a field titled "Network" at this time it read T-Mobile WiFi. I thought that was interesting, watch was connected to WiFi and the cellular toggle was on. So the watch was correctly recognizing the network as T-Mobile Wifi. So I placed some calls and they went through no problem and I have to wait to see what T-mobile logs them as.

What is peculiar is that i've done this before, i've made calls that seem to be WiFi Calls but are logged as regular cell calls. So i'm interested to see what t-mobile logs these calls as. I have a attached a screenshot below. Another interesting thing is if I turn off the cellular toggle off but still connected to Wifi, the network field reads "Not Available" which reinforces the idea that the eSIM has to be powered on for the watch to connect to T-Mobile for Wifi calling. It will also read "Not Available" when watch is connected to phone by bluetooth. The part that doesn't make sense is why calls are logged as cellular calls. Will update when T-Mobile shows my calls and how they are logged.
 

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Following this closely. When my watch is on WiFi, it doesn’t ring. Or if it does ring, my phone in the other room will have already rung multiple times so you try to answer the call and it’s already gone to voicemail. S3 on ATT running 4.1 beta 2
 
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It is not according to me, AT&T has defined it clearly it as SPWIFI (NumberSync Wi-Fi) instead of PVWIFI (Wi-Fi calling) that the iPhone uses. The LTE Watch in Wi-Fi mode is just not using this capability according to AT&T for me and T-Mobile for @deadworlds.

The toggle does not show up for an active Series 3 (GPS & LTE) Watch that has a carrier plan.

I received detailed billing as part of my plan and it shows exactly how each call is recorded by the AT&T network. The information is updated every 3 hours.

Here is the Apple Documentation in question:


If you have a Cellular plan on the active Watch, the Wi-Fi Calling option "Does Not Appear" on this screen.

Dave
I never said it appeared on this screen. It appears on a different screen under Settings > Phone > Calls on Other Devices but only when you make the other watch active. It’s obviously a bug that is either cosmetic or it’s a bug that reveals that under the hood there is a toggle for Wi-Fi Calling that Apple initially wanted to expose to the users but later decided to hide.

Another point is that the assertion that an iOS device must have a SIM to be able to use Wi-Fi Calling is wrong. I have a cellular iPad Air that has no SIM in it (I took it out), and I was just able to activate “Wi-Fi Calling” on it in the FaceTime settings without any issue whatsoever. It worked exactly like it does on the Mac when you activate Wi-Fi Calling in the FaceTime preferences.
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Wait one minute, if it shows as Wi-Fi from your iPhone number then your watch was using a Wi-Fi connection to your iPhone and the iPhone was using Wi-Fi Calling to the Carrier. That's what AT&T has confirmed to me as we have discussed the issue.

Well good luck and as a side note I don't see any availability for most LTE models within a 900 Mile radius from me. I really hope that is not the solution. Other option is Nov. 10 in-store or 2-3 wks shipping.

Dave
T-Mobile provides no call detail for the fake phone number they assign to the LTE Apple Watch. They only provide the total number of minutes for calls from/to that number. All the call detail is listed under the iPhone number with which the LTE Watch number is pared via DIGITs.
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Update 10/13 5:59PM PDT: At about 4PM I received another call from a senior advisor, they wanted yet more screenshots of some settings. Im not sure if the previous advisor I spoke to earlier today made a mistake or what happened. Anyway, this particular advisor told me that she personally knew the engineer and she spent a good 30-40 minutes testing out various scenarios with me. These involved turning the phone off and making sure watch was on WIFI while she attempted to call me. Not to my surprise I never did receive a call on the watch, but the advisor told me that on her end the phone never rang and it never went to voice mail, it was just dead silent.

She then had me turn the phone off and attempt to make an outbound wifi call from the watch, and as we all know, all calls failed. I appreciated her willingness to try some things our. I think now she had a better understanding of whats going on.

She then proceeded to get screen shots of WiFi calling enabled setting on phone, calling on other devices, iCloud account, faceTim settings, and 2 wifi network settings. She also go a screen shot of the Watch.app phone settings, where the Wifi Calling toggle is. She was surprised it was not showing up and I explained that it will only show up if I remove the cell plan from the watch. She thought that was very peculiar and wrote that down too. I also mentioned that I knew at least 2 people on ATT that are also having the issue, but im not sure if she made a note of it.

She also tried to contact the engineer working on the case so she could get live feedback from them, but was unable to make contact. So she wrote a report and sent it back to engineering. I have a callback scheduled for Monday 2PM PDT.


Update 10:26pm PDT: I removed the cellular plan from my watch again, and as we already knew, in the watch.app phone setting WiFi calling toggle now appeared. So I decided to put my phone in airplane mode and made sure watch was connected to WiFi. I then placed 2 successful WiFi calls that correctly showed up on caller ID as my normal phone number. Things are very strange here.

Update 11:45PM PDT: I re-activated the cellular plan on the phone, and of course now lost the ability to make wifi calls. Tests where done by putting iPhone into airplane modre and turning off cellular on the watch. Watch switched to wifi, all calls failed, nothing new here.
After re-enabling the Cellular toggle on the watch I went into the settings->General->About on the watch. Then I noticed that there was a field titled "Network" at this time it read T-Mobile WiFi. I thought that was interesting, watch was connected to WiFi and the cellular toggle was on. So the watch was correctly recognizing the network as T-Mobile Wifi. So I placed some calls and they went through no problem and I have to wait to see what T-mobile logs them as.

What is peculiar is that i've done this before, i've made calls that seem to be WiFi Calls but are logged as regular cell calls. So i'm interested to see what t-mobile logs these calls as. I have a attached a screenshot below. Another interesting thing is if I turn off the cellular toggle off but still connected to Wifi, the network field reads "Not Available" which reinforces the idea that the eSIM has to be powered on for the watch to connect to T-Mobile for Wifi calling. It will also read "Not Available" when watch is connected to phone by bluetooth. The part that doesn't make sense is why calls are logged as cellular calls. Will update when T-Mobile shows my calls and how they are logged.

eSIM does not to be powered for a device with cellular capability to make Wi-Fi calls. That assumption is wrong,and I just disproved it by enabling Fi-Fi cCalling on a cellular iPad with SIM taken out.
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Following this closely. When my watch is on WiFi, it doesn’t ring. Or if it does ring, my phone in the other room will have already rung multiple times so you try to answer the call and it’s already gone to voicemail. S3 on ATT running 4.1 beta 2
I’m not having any problems with the watch making or receiving calls while the phone is in Airplane mode and I am on my home Wi-Fi. The only uncertainty for me is if in this scenario the LTE Watch is using my home Wi-Fi or it’s cellular connection. It’s an important thing to figure out and have Apple fix it if in fact the LTE Watch uses its LTE signal for making and receiving calls in this scenario. However, this is a very marginal use case, and at the end of the day what really matters is if the LTE Watch can function as a phone in this scenario, which for me it can.

After the activation of the LTE plan on the Watch, turn off the iPhone, then reboot the watch, and as it’s rebooting: turn the iPhone back on. The iPhone will come up before the Watch. Once both devices power back on, put the iPhone in airplane mode, wait a minute or two, and test calling from/to your watch. It should work just fine, and in my case it rings together with my Mac, and I can answer the phone call on either device. It certainly behaves as though it were using Wi-Fi Calling in this scenario, but I can’t vouch it is not using its cellular signal.
 
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