Could absolutely see it happening at some point. Would be surprised if it was this year.
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Case Maker Expecting Smaller Apple Pencil for Upcoming 2019 iPhones
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Could absolutely see it happening at some point. Would be surprised if it was this year.
Nice that we have a Galaxy Note alternative after eight years. Has iOS added native pencil writing to text transcription yet? It's a nice option to pencil the url in browser, pencil new contact or calendar entry creation, etc. Last I checked there still wasn't.
The key point...it's a rendering, not an actual manufactured product.
Not much of a risk when you're not actually spending any money.
Not much of a risk when you're not actually spending any money.
Perfect. You nailed it. And this is the differentiation for those who completely obfuscated what Steve Jobs meant between a stylus and the differentiation of what the Apple Pencil truly is intended for.
It's certainly easy to remember what Steve Jobs said about a stylus. But when he said that wasn't he talking about the primary means of interacting with the device? As long as a stylus/Apple Pencil isn't mandatory for use why would anyone bash this?
So the problem isnt the stylus but apple not knowing how to design a user interface for a stylus and finger.
I really hope this is true. Remember all the hate for a stylus that was spewed around here over the Galaxy Note line? I can't wait to see those people trip over their tongues explaining why it's good when Apple does it and bad when Samsung does it.
The price should be interesting too considering most phones with a stylus include it. A $100 up fee for a phone stylus will be a joke. I still remember the quote from Samsung about their Notes that they'd rather just bundle the basics like a stylus and make money selling fun stuff like VR camera modules.
The price should be interesting too considering most phones with a stylus include it. A $100 up fee for a phone stylus will be a joke. I still remember the quote from Samsung about their Notes that they'd rather just bundle the basics like a stylus and make money selling fun stuff like VR camera modules.
Sir/ma'am, this is a Dairy Queen.
Why such a sweeping statement over a case maker making a rendering based on a sketchy and (so far) uncorroborated rumor?
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Note-taking and tiny drawings... Worth the $$ and the apparently awkward means of carrying it? At least with the Galaxy Note, it’s included with the phone and always stored in the phone itself.
If they managed to fit the Pencil inside the 11 Pro... Max?... then I call BS on the headphone jack removal
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If they managed to fit the Pencil inside the 11 Pro... Max?... then I call BS on the headphone jack removal
(kidding)I think ‘remembering and understanding’ are two different things. Clearly there are examples in this thread where others don’t understand what Steve Jobs was referring to with a stylus versus what the Apple Pencil is actually truly intended for today. It’s not mutually exclusive with a stylus and Apple Pencil.
Why would Apple make the Apple Pencil mandatory? Of course it will be an accessory, because it will never be built into the iPhone, but I think the fact is, that this is a render, not an actual product that’s being leaked.
No, the problem is your complete misunderstanding of what Jobs meant and trying desperately to spin it into a way to bash Apple.
You're both wrong though. Devices back when the comment was made like the Palm Treo 700x I had could be operated with touch or stylus (it didn't require a stylus). Also, the stylus was siloed so less chance of losing than magnetic clip on like on the iPad Pro which was largely a profit decision since it costs $129 to buy/replace vs free/low cost on other devices.
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So you’re saying you didn’t understand Steve’s comment also.
Noted. In addition, your comment serves no relevance to what Steve Jobs was actually inferring, the Apple Pencil is a completely different tool separated away from an actual stylus function that served at that time. As I mentioned before, they’re not mutually exclusive based off the comparisons in this thread.I use a mini and a pro for pencil input - I enjoy using the mini for it's size - but I'm always in a 'zoom window' for goodnotes and zoomed in for notability... It's just a compromisingly small display.
Now make it even smaller on the iPhone? I'll be reminded of jot on a palm pilot. It seems that everything Steve Jobs saw in the iPhone is lost.
Now make it even smaller on the iPhone? I'll be reminded of jot on a palm pilot. It seems that everything Steve Jobs saw in the iPhone is lost.
Sorry. My last response to this was apparently 'frivolous'.
I'll elaborate on ''.
The Apple Pencil is so much more than what styluses used to be. Steve turned his nose up them because he could, and way back when, the finger simply made more sense considering the original iPhones capabilities.
Now, I personally think it would make sense to extend Apple Pencil use to iPhones, not least of all because of the screen sizes
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I'll elaborate on '
'.The Apple Pencil is so much more than what styluses used to be. Steve turned his nose up them because he could, and way back when, the finger simply made more sense considering the original iPhones capabilities.
Now, I personally think it would make sense to extend Apple Pencil use to iPhones, not least of all because of the screen sizes
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He meant as a primary input method. Your finger will always be the number 1 input method on an iPhone.
