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Case Maker Expecting Smaller Apple Pencil for Upcoming 2019 iPhones
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But anyway, I am sure those who want to use the pencil to sketch out ideas etc will buy one (like me) and those who just need to use their 10 fingers wont. Quite simple.
Please watch the original iPhone launch to understand what Jobs was talking about. I have no doubt he would support the pencil if it could be implemented well. The same argument applies with the iPad Pro.
A firm I used to work for back in 2017 stocked those pens with capacitive tips at the end of the cap in meeting rooms, which made them a stylus. I have a few of them probably under the couch or whatever.
They’re cool for the first 5 minutes. You’ll use it to browse up and down safari, draw some male genitalia (corporate fun!) and forget about it forever because it’s unnecessary on the iPhone.
More like they were rubbish. I did the same thing with my iPad until the decent solution was released.
What you obviously are oblivious to is that you and your cohorts have no use for one. I do and so may others.
It’s better to have a choice than not wouldn’t you say.
I am unsure why people are against something that is not forced upon them, and the defacto option is not to have a pencil.
Steve was talking about devices where you HAD to use the stylus in order to interact with it - some of the other early smartphones were this way, as were all of the PalmPilots. His point was that if you needed to take out a stylus in order to work, the device was bad. That would not be the case with an iPhone that lets you optionally use a stylus, just as it isn't the case with the iPads. Did you not know this, or are you ignoring it in order to get in your dig at Apple?Sorry, Steve
It appears people would simply prefer their own truths instead of reality.
You people need to stop pedalling this tripe. That is not what Steve said. Whilst the landscape has changed, the naysayers have a point.
Watch and learn.
He never said how are we going to navigate this, he said "how are we going to communicate this".
Can you remind us that he was referring to a pointing device also....
The pencil is not a pointing device.
Not far off actually. General Magic(a spin off from Apple) were actually one of the first to present the idea of a pocket computer.
What changed? It's 2019 and iPhones still don't have pencil support. Apple doesn't seem to be out of business.
Are you saying Apple will be out of business before the end of the year if they don't announce pencil support for iPhones? What a ride this is going to be...
No. I'm talking about the wider topic of people hanging on Jobs' every last word like disciples. If Apple had stuck rigidly to everything Steve Jobs ever held dear, irrespective of what the market wanted, then they would [probably] have gone under by now. Large screen phones being the obvious example. Nothing stays the same. Times change. You can't set a trend and then expect it never to change just because you say it shouldn't. Jobs would absolutely have done a 180 on every single one of his set-in-stone technological scruples if and when the market had demanded it while he was still alive. To believe otherwise is ludicrous.
He didn't want the stylus to be the only input device and he was right. To this very day the Pencil exists, but you can use an iPad with your fingers and the Pencil is an optional accessory. If it comes to the iPhone I say why not? I didn't buy it for the iPad and I wouldn't want it on an iPhone, but it wouldn't hurt me if they decided to support it.
Of course I don't want the pen to rest inside the phone, I don't want them to sacrifice precious room in the phone for an accessory, but I don't think it will be the case, the Pencil is charged magnetically and I can see them do something similar on the iPhone.
No. Not really. The Surface looks more like the original iPad than the iPad Pro looks like the Surface. What a silly thing to say.
This could be seminal in moving flock from Galaxy Notes to iPhones, now that the notes no longer have a 3.5mm hole in them.
The pencil can even be an add-on that doesn't take up space in the phone like the note does. Just need some space in a bulky cover for it
The pencil can even be an add-on that doesn't take up space in the phone like the note does. Just need some space in a bulky cover for it
You were implying the magnetic clip on pen which the Microsoft Surface had long before the iPad Pro. Even the looks of the iPad Pro, like the flat edge, looks more like the Surface than previous iPads. Just admit you're wrong on both counts.
Yes please. iPhone with Pencil support has been on my checklist for a long time now. As it is I have to carry an Adonit to notate on my X when I have a perfectly usable Pencil next to my iPad.
So envious of the Mr's various S Pen devices. He can do so much with the pen.
Mrs
Graffiti is great!
Mr
So envious of the Mr's various S Pen devices. He can do so much with the pen.
Mrs
Graffiti is great!
Mr
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Sorry, Steve
LOL. I love the small simple (a.k.a dumb) minds that people have regarding that infamous statement from Steve regarding stylus use.
I feel that these people either have poor comprehension skills or simply are too young to understand what it was like "back in the day" to use the first keyboard-less Windows CE smartphones.
Ok imagine this..... you are out in a night club on the dance floor, you're a few drinks in, you score, you go to enter their number and you have to pull out a stylus and hit these tiny little targets on a single pressure point screen. - That was the reality of these phones.
A stylus sucked and so did the UI as it was designed for a small stylus tip.
Really not good when in a wild environment.
Then the iPhone came out with this amazing thing called multi-touch! You now got to use your fat finger to navigate a UI designed equally for it. WOW, no more looking like a nerd and losing the dam styles on the dance floor.
That was the problem with Stylus. It was a requirement to use the dam phone other than making or taking a call.
The Apple Pencil will never be a requirement. The Samsung Note’s do not need a stylus to use and navigate.
How are you people so ignorant?
Edit. I was implying that the design of the Samsung device looks like it was printed from a scan of the iPad Pro.
As for the magnetic pen, yes. Microsoft did it first. No denying that, but the chunky bezels and clunky size of the Surface is taken straight from 2010.
The fact that Apple came late to the game doesn’t change the fact that they have done it better than anyone else, including long term graphic tablet producers.
I’ve looked at your comment history and you seem to start arguments for no reason, so this is the last you’ll hear from me. #herestheattentionyouwanted
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