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Case Maker Expecting Smaller Apple Pencil for Upcoming 2019 iPhones
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What is the design solution? Apple’s not going to make a slot like the Galaxy Note. I suppose they could have a magnetic attachment like iPad Pro but that doesn’t seem ideal either.
The iPhone supposedly comes with a dual charge function, able to charge the Apple Watch and maybe also a Apple Pen?
The only reason Steve and others were bad mouthing styluses were because that's what the competition had. A stylus can be used in any user interface designed for fingers.
I already told you people that Apple is coming out with the "Apple Golf Pencil". 
I'll be interested to see how many of those who rejected the need or usefulness of the Pencil will now embrace it when it is available for the iPhone and what caused their change of mind. New use cases?
I'll be interested to see how many of those who rejected the need or usefulness of the Pencil will now embrace it when it is available for the iPhone and what caused their change of mind. New use cases?
Lol touchèNot always something clever
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Hence why I'm not in marketing at AppleI hope they can do better than that!
Sure, now take that back to 2007 when nobody created an interface for a finger BUT Apple. Really can't believe you're even going there.
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lol, and you can draw and write with your finger too. You really missed the point. BTW, where was the multitouch and gestures on your Treo? That thing was a joke even for its time.
Exactly, stylus in those times were used for EVERY single interaction..iPhone revolutionized that with multitouch. And Samsung copied e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g (and didnt use stylus)
Apple Pencil would be something to be used ONLY on handwriting-drawing ocassions.
First darn thing I thought of! The Pencil works well with my iPad Pro...I would NOT want to carry this around with my phone. Even playing around with the upcoming Note 10 at Best Buy, I dont think I'd use the stylus and would lose that darn thing in 2 days.
You are obviously misquoting. The context of that speech clearly points out the true meaning of this shortened sentence -- it is very inconvenient if you have to rely on a stylus to interact with your smartphone, which was true to all of the so-called "smartphone"s before iPhone. Nowadays, even for the smartphones come with styluses, fingers are still the main interacting method.
So if this comes about what will be the extra subscription services, paid apps etc associated with it given Apples shift from just hardware
Exactly. As a Treo 650 and Treo 755p user, there are a couple factors that play into Jobs' comments on the stylus (which those Treo phones and also Microsoft's Pocket PC devices used as well).
- The touch screen technology was different-- these older devices used "resistive touch" screens-- you needed that small hard stylus to apply pressure often to a small area to accurately operate the device. Yes, some targets were big enough that you could user your fingers (like the number pad for dialing, if I recall). I don't remember doing that though because it wasn't a great experience. You usually used a stylus -- or tried to hit targets with fingernails-- it was easier to get the pressure needed with a smaller tool (stylus).
Using a stylus on a resistive touch screen is a very different experience to lightly touching a capacitive touch screen with your finger.
- Along with this, the user interface was not designed to be operated by finger. You had small menus and targets that could only reliably be activated with a stylus.
iPhones used capacitive touch and designed the UI for finger-sized targets. This made it simple and easy to operate one handed and without the need for a stylus. There's even the "advantage" that not just any type solid material could register a touch on the screen.
This is one reason why the Apple Pencil is an accessory and not included with any device (besides so that they can make more money)-- it's not essential for using the device. The device doesn't depend on the accuracy of a pencil / stylus to have a positive user experience.
Conversely, this is likely primarily why Apple has also not embraced touch screens on Macs. The Mac *does* have an interface that's designed for a much more precise input than a finger.
Yup, I don't know why people get so bent out of shape about the camera. It only looked odd at first because it was different, once you see it enough times you get use to it. I think some competitors look better, aesthetically, with their arrangement of the cameras and flash but, admittedly, that is also a bit nit-picky.
You know what's a joke? The apple Newton yet every apple fan will say apple invented the pocket computer.
Wrong. I suggest you look at the dozen or so quotes Steve made regarding using a stylus and stop trying to build a case out of only one quote. Steve was very clearly talking about requiring a stylus, not the concept of a stylus in general.
At least one case maker is expecting Apple Pencil support for the upcoming 2019 iPhones, despite no solid rumors suggesting the new devices will work with the Apple Pencil.
Case site Mobile Fun is, as of this morning, stocking an "iPhone 11 Pro" case from Olixar with a built-in mini Apple Pencil holder. The case maker seems to believe Apple is designing a smaller version of the Apple Pencil that will work with at least the larger 6.5-inch iPhone XS Max successor.
The case in question is a rendering, not a real case, and it therefore doesn't offer concrete evidence that Apple is planning to introduce Apple Pencil support for the 2019 iPhone lineup. It's not even clear if Olixar has actually manufactured these cases, especially because the Apple Pencil sleeve on the back doesn't look functional. From the accessory's description:There have been some rumors and analyst predictions hinting at Apple Pencil support, but thus far we've heard nothing from a reliable source.
Were Apple indeed developing a miniature version of the Apple Pencil that works with the 2019 iPhone, it's likely we would have heard more about it by this point given the detailed rumors we've heard about other aspects of the 2019 iPhone lineup.
That said, Korean site The Investor said in 2017 that Apple would introduce Apple Pencil support for iPhone as soon as 2019, and recently, Citi Research listed the Apple Pencil as one prospective feature for the new devices.
One reliable source, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, has said that Apple Pencil support is a possibility for a future iPhone, but that was in 2018 and he has made no further mention about Apple Pencil support in the 2019 device lineup.
Many times, early case designs for upcoming iPhones are accurate because there's a lot of money in being first to design a case for a new device, but in this situation, Olixar may just be aiming to draw eyes to its brand name using a case rendering for a feature that's interesting, but likely not coming.
For details on all of the features we do expect in the 2019 iPhone lineup, such as triple-lens cameras, bilateral wireless charging, larger batteries, and more, make sure to check out our 2019 iPhone roundup.
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How thick would these cases have to be to store the pencil in there? If they're not thick then the entire pencil will be sticking out. Doubt this is true, but not convinced about the practical aspect if it is.
I don’t know if the next iPhone will have support for a Pencil (stylus).
What I do know with absolute certainty is this: An iPhone with a stylus will be infinitely more useful than a Note with a stylus, because, unlike with Android, developers will actually support this. So instead of Fisher Price Android Apps you’ll have actual useful Apps that will be optimized for stylus input.
It’s the same reason Android is garbage on tablets - developers can’t be bothered to optimize their Apps for larger screens.
Sometimes context matters. Do you know what a stylus was used for when Jobs made that quote? Navigating a touch screen UI on a resistive screen. Capacitive screens, multitouch and a UI designed 100% for touch replaced that. That remains true even if they add a stylus to augment the functions of the phone. Please don’t reference quotes you don’t understand.