Cases for Upcoming 10.5-Inch and 12.9-Inch iPad Pro Reveal Stereo Speakers, Centered Rear Microphone

[ValO]

So? The PostPC era was only an excuse for lamented Mac development ?
Or in the PostPC era, Post=current.
So logical - only at Apple

OT. Gee man, someone thought about a pen tray in the last 5 minutes.
Because Joni the Overrated once again missed the opportunity to design internal pencil storage with integrated charging
So I guess the pen still doubles as a selfie stick, cracky and wacky for another 5 years...

Anyway, the Innovation Roadmap for the coming years has become clear:
Shoving off 1 millimeter bezel yearly.
Sooo exciting what 2019 will bring...

People mistake innovation by companies trying something different. They get bored and want something else. I think innovation will and should be in software, not in reducing bezels, or putting pc hardware in a tablet and make compromises, etc.
If apple can spur the dev of great apps for business and artists, and make IOS a little more " pro" , this will be more than enough innovation. Boring??? Perhaps, but steady and constant progress. In a few years, things will be different, but because of the pace, and all small innovations released steadily over the years, you won' t even notice.
That is the way apple does things these days.
If you can' t handle that , and want a " BIg Bang" then you should look at samsung. Bixby, great... will die a slow death, tizen?? Where is it? Etc, etc... no consistincy, half baked, not ready and no more support in the next 2 years.
While apple , for example, is steadily and slowly upgrading the apple watch and watchos, studying where customers and developpers use it for, and improve hw and OS, and it will grow on us. Slowly, but effective... sales will grow, etc.

 

[Derude]

I'm so disappointed, the slightly Increased iPad just proves the iPad will not be bezeless.. I was hoping for a iPad the same size as the 9.7 with finger sensor within the screen like the supposedly iPhone 8 will have but now I'm super skeptical it will even happen.. now I'm not even looking forward to the 10.5 iPad but sadly I will be getting it since I want I bigger iPad compared to my Mini..

Apples tech is moving like a slug and Samsung is really becoming a competitor, Apple really needs to get there **** together.

 

[Bacillus]

People mistake innovation by companies trying something different. They get bored and want something else. I think innovation will and should be in software, not in reducing bezels, or putting pc hardware in a tablet and make compromises, etc.
If apple can spur the dev of great apps for business and artists, and make IOS a little more " pro" , this will be more than enough innovation. Boring??? Perhaps, but steady and constant progress. In a few years, things will be different, but because of the pace, and all small innovations released steadily over the years, you won' t even notice.
That is the way apple does things these days.
If you can' t handle that , and want a " BIg Bang" then you should look at samsung. Bixby, great... will die a slow death, tizen?? Where is it? Etc, etc... no consistincy, half baked, not ready and no more support in the next 2 years.

OK, if your perspective is determined by Apple's/Samsung's catalogue and roadmaps, I can follow that.
While we're being fobbed off with a few millimeters bezel reduction a year, at the same time they're busy with innovation that hardly sees daylight in the form of products. But with thousands of patents (ref. patentlyapple.com, patentlymobile.com and others) that Apple and Samsung park as future assets - holding each other in a semi-competing and semi-innovating grip of inertia.
Foldout screens, self repairing materials, innovative form factors, nano technology, universal remote charging, adaptive sensoring, just name it. With thousands of smaller companies offensively developing these things, forcing the incumbents into defense.
I am anxiously awaiting some Chinese companies (or even Microsoft) to break open the market that has become so spoiled/lamented by these 2 incumbent dyno's - that only temper innovation not to disrupt their current business. Pretending to be "competitors", they keep the other alive as he tends to fail miserably, with mass OLED deliveries, critical part supplies etc.
Throwing millions into "courtcases" that - whaha ! - should let us believe differently.
It's definitely not boring - it's deceipt. Only the products are boring, for the moment.

 

[Bacillus]

I was hoping for a iPad the same size as the 9.7 with finger sensor within the screen like the supposedly iPhone 8 will

Beware that iPad has substantially different/less screen functonality from iPhone (no 3DTouch, no inscreen touchID)

 

[ValO]

OK, if your perspective is determined by Apple's/Samsung's catalogue and roadmaps, I can follow that.
While we're being fobbed off with a few millimeters bezel reduction a year, at the same time they're busy with innovation that hardly sees daylight in the form of products. But with thousands of patents (ref. patentlyapple.com, patentlymobile.com and others) that Apple and Samsung park as future assets - holding each other in a semi-competing and semi-innovating grip of inertia.
Foldout screens, self repairing materials, innovative form factors, nano technology, universal remote charging, adaptive sensoring, just name it. With thousands of smaller companies offensively developing these things, forcing the incumbents into defense.
I am anxiously awaiting some Chinese companies (or even Microsoft) to break open the market that has become so spoiled/lamented by these 2 incumbent dyno's - that only temper innovation not to disrupt their current business. As so-called "competitors" - they keep the other alive as he tends to fail miserably, with mass OLED deliveries, critical part supplies etc.
Throwing millions into "courtcases" that - whaha ! - should let us believe differently.
It's definitely not boring - it's deceipt. Only the products are boring, for the moment.

If you are a small company pushing 10000 units s month, it is easy to deliver. Because of no supply constraints, yields issues, etc.
If you are a big company which sells more than millions of units each month, it is a whole different ballgame. I can' t wait how you and other people will respond when they want an allscreen iphone 8 with in-screen touchid, and can' t get this innovative iphone because of suplly constraints.
Another factor:it is apple, it adds another dimension, a huge fanbase, that wants change, but can' t handle change actually.
I want Ios 6 back, i want a 3.5 inch iphone, etc. Iphone se is the best phone, best design, etc. They can' t even handle the word pro in ipad pro, etc.

 

[Bacillus]

If you are a small company pushing 10000 units s month, it is easy to deliver. Because of no supply constraints, yields issues, etc.
If you are a big company which sells more than millions of units each month, it is a whole different ballgame. I can' t wait how you and other people will respond when they want an allscreen iphone 8 with in-screen touchid, and can' t get this innovative iphone because of suplly constraints.
Another factor:it is apple, it adds another dimension, a huge fanbase, that wants change, but can' t handle change actually.
I want Ios 6 back, i want a 3.5 inch iphone, etc. Iphone se is the best phone, best design, etc. They can' t even handle the word pro in ipad pro, etc.

I can't follow you. 10k products a month can be tremendously more complicated if you don't have the licenses, funding, distribution, sales channels. Millions a month can be a headache if you can't ramp up - but generally the bigger players can, because of their immense corporate power, if their planning is right. Plus their scale of operation helps getting far better production and distribution deals, better priority, where they dictate pricing at 15...30% of the streetprice.
So in established markets, size is a huge comparative advantage.
But success depends very much on a particular product/market/distribution combi and I really don't understand what kind of (half-)product you have in mind.
Euhh? Apple fanbase can't handle the change ? Since when (did they get over-aged, suddenly) ?
Was there any (more than gradual) change over the last 4,5 years ?

 

[nick42983]

Yes, the existence of AirPods means that Apple could have replaced the headphone jack with a second Lightning port. Along with the Lightning to headphone adapter.

My point was that there are a few "pro" reasons to want more than one device connected to an iPad. A single USB C port would resolve them, but if they are sticking with Lightning, it'd be cool to have two ports. For example, HDMI out and Ethernet at the same time. Or digital i/o out and a midi device etc. Would just make it more versatile and either port could always be turned back into a headphone jack.

I think they'll go to USB-C on most or all of their devices by next year. They'll probably start with the iPad Pros before the iPhone.