CES 2012 Kicks off Next Week: Gorilla Glass, Vizio, Windows Phone, Ultrabooks

[surjavarman]

With OS X 10.7 and full screen apps the menu bar is hidden to allow you to utilize that extra… quarter inch? (if thats important to you)

The menu bar can be customized quite extensively (natively I might add) for status menus for iChat, display settings, time machine backups, I could list it all the options but it would take FOREVER.

Not to mention that there a numerous third party apps (Caffeine for example) that use the menu bar.

Learn the OS before you knock it.

Just sayin...

EE

Well then you are the only person that uses full screen apps. Cause it sucks. Not every app supports. Highly inconsistent experience and confusing. Try having more than 3 full screen apps open and all of them have multiple windows open. You'll be working the trackpad like a DJ scratching his table when you try to flip between apps. Not to mention that you can't expose/mc those individual windows. It's useless. No one uses it fullscreen apps.

Well heres a tip for display settings, time machine and all the other stuff: CMD+space. Fastest way to do it and adds zero clutter. The only thing you need in your menu bar is the battery indicator, time and wifi. The rest just adds clutter especially from 3rd parties. Dropbox is the only icon you can't remove.

 

[TheJing]

No one said they were perfect, just that you were lying/BSing pretty heavy.

We all know that iPhones break very easily. If they didn't, I wouldn't know more than 10 people who have had theirs repaired because of a cracked screen.

 

[gnasher729]

And how is an iMac different from any old PC?

Go to an Apple Store, and try one.

2560 x 1440 pixels top quality display. MacOS X Lion. Absolutely quiet. Build quality that blows away any old PC. Beautiful design (the one item on the list that Vizio intends to do as well. I am sure they can manage "nicer than the average old PC", whether they can manage "beautiful" remains to be seen). People in their stores who can and will actually help you with a problem.

And customers who complain about the smallest problem, unlike the PC world where people seem to think that buying a computer that requires problem solving skills is a sign of intelligence.

 

[Kentochan]

Is that a trackpad sitting in between the keyboard and the mouse?

 

[Eidorian]

And customers who complain about the smallest problem, unlike the PC world where people seem to think that buying a computer that requires problem solving skills is a sign of intelligence.

Tell that to the people that I help with their tablets and eReaders.

Easy huh? Ugh...

 

[briansolomon]

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All the brands have colour that can be adjusted. LOL, did you not know this? Everything on the showroom floor is set to Vivid so it'll get noticed, sometimes to the extreme. I can show you a properly calibrated Sony Bravia picture that will blow most others (that are also calibrated) out of the water, brand and off-brand.

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Really, dude? You think I'm basing this off store displays? You think I didn't ever calibrate my sets? I brought home half a dozen different sets. You will never get a Vizio to look like a Samsung or vice versa. Samsung's displays produce the colors of a glossy iMac whereas I would liken a matte display to Vizio. They're different. If all TVs were equal we'd all be going out and buying the cheapest TV out there.

 

[ebinellis]

Well then you are the only person that uses full screen apps. Cause it sucks.

I don't use full screen apps, I don't even have my windows expanded to the full available space on my screen. (I'm using a 13inch MBP)

And why open windows using Spotlight when I can get to what I want with a click of the menu bar?

I use a projector as a second monitor quite frequently, and switching between mirrored and extended desktop is tedious through System Preferences.

Time Machine backups, triggered or browsed through the menu bar is great.

The list goes on and on.

YOU don't use the menu bar, but that doesn't mean its not functional.

EE

 

[finalcut]

I'd buy one of the all alu Vizio keyboard if there was a Mac version!

 

[Gamoe]

Note to Vizio: Looks alone does not a Mac make.

 

[kalsta]

Exactly. If it had an Apple logo on it, the same guys who are now bitching about that product would already be salivating and checking their credit card balance.

Ive's team produces some beautiful industrial design. If you can't see that, then frankly you're as blind as the Apple fanboys you ridicule. That's not to say they don't get it wrong sometimes—the original iMac pucklet (actually every mouse they've made since then), and IMO their obsession with glossy displays. But most designers (yes, I'm a designer) can see what sets Apple's hardware design apart from most other PC manufacturers.

The Vizio stuff just… well, it just doesn't quite get it. It's kind of like Hyundai trying to do sports cars… or Oasis trying to be the Beatles… or Microsoft trying to do graphic user interfaces. It's kind of almost there… You can see what they're trying to copy… But in the end it's more a-meh-zing than amazing.

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I'd buy one of the all alu Vizio keyboard if there was a Mac version!

Of all the items, the keyboard does actually look pretty schmick. I'd be keen to test drive one too.

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Confused???

Yeah, a little. Especially now that you agreed with the person who said the cowbell is 'not a speaker, it's the actual computer', and then completely contradicted that by saying that 'the base of this computer is the actual computer'.

 

[thenerdal]

Ive's team produces some beautiful industrial design. If you can't see that, then frankly you're as blind as the Apple fanboys you ridicule. That's not to say they don't get it wrong sometimes—the original iMac pucklet (actually every mouse they've made since then), and IMO their obsession with glossy displays. But most designers (yes, I'm a designer) can see what sets Apple's hardware design apart from most other PC manufacturers.

The Vizio stuff just… well, it just doesn't quite get it. It's kind of like Hyundai trying to do sports cars… or Oasis trying to be the Beatles… or Microsoft trying to do graphic user interfaces. It's kind of almost there… You can see what they're trying to copy… But in the end it's more a-meh-zing than amazing.

I agree, Apple does have nice designs. But I also think the Vizio has a nice design as well.

It's very simple and nice while looking different from the iMac.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

If it smashes so easily why is it the #1 handset sold at AT&T, Verizon and Sprint?

It's the number one phone because it is awesome. that doesn't mean the glass back isn't prone to cracking where other phones might withstand the drop.

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No, is not news to me hat you post the same things again and again even when it has nothing to do with the questions asked

It does get tiresome. He's his own echo.

 

[thenerdal]

Really? Have hard data to back that up? If it smashes so easily why is it the #1 handset sold at AT&T, Verizon and Sprint? Surely millions of people wouldn't buy a phone they know will be smashed if they drop it. Yes I know someone who had to replace the glass on their iPhone but I would assume its the exception not the norm otherwise we'd be reading about massive returns. Don't think the media wouldn't report that with glee just like they did with antennagate.

I don't think the 4S is the number 1 phone. Source?

 

[PeterQVenkman]

Windows 7 is incredibly stable. And if you're not a tool online, you're safe.

It's pretty simple. Don't use old versions of IE, and don't visit porn sites! Problems solved! My PCs run happily along without problems just like my rock solic macs (minus the G5 lemon I had).

 

[linux2mac]

Go to an Apple Store, and try one.

2560 x 1440 pixels top quality display. MacOS X Lion. Absolutely quiet. Build quality that blows away any old PC. Beautiful design (the one item on the list that Vizio intends to do as well. I am sure they can manage "nicer than the average old PC", whether they can manage "beautiful" remains to be seen). People in their stores who can and will actually help you with a problem.

And customers who complain about the smallest problem, unlike the PC world where people seem to think that buying a computer that requires problem solving skills is a sign of intelligence.

Nicely summed up.

 

[smoledman]

For once it looks like Microsoft & Intel won't suck at CES.

 

[carmenodie]

Vizio is just pimping more windows, virus prime crap. No matter how much they try to clean up a wintel system it is still a wintel system.
Go Mac and you will never go back.

 

[thenerdal]

Vizio is just pimping more windows, virus prime crap. No matter how much they try to clean up a wintel system it is still a wintel system.
Go Mac and you will never go back.

Never had a virus. Only time I had a virus is when I was a kid and didn't know about computers at all.

 

[smoledman]

Vizio is just pimping more windows, virus prime crap. No matter how much they try to clean up a wintel system it is still a wintel system.
Go Mac and you will never go back.

That is just ignorant.

 

[Geekbabe]

I would like to get a hands on look of that Vizio

 

[*LTD*]

$600 isn't cheap compared to those $300-$400 Dells you can get.

Apple deliberately chooses not to play in this particular segment of the market. They don't ship junk, which is basically what you'll be getting at those prices. It's a blessing that Apple doesn't lower themselves to that. You can't have one junk Mac and one high-end Mac and claim excellence and discriminating standards in computers.

 

[thenerdal]

Apple deliberately chooses not to play in this particular segment of the market. They don't ship junk, which is basically what you'll be getting at those prices. It's a blessing that Apple doesn't lower themselves to that. You can't have one junk Mac and one high-end Mac and claim excellence and discriminating standards in computers.

HP Pavilion dm1z. $400. Not junk. Define junk...

 

[Renzatic]

Apple deliberately chooses not to play in this particular segment of the market. They don't ship junk, which is basically what you'll be getting at those prices. It's a blessing that Apple doesn't lower themselves to that. You can't have one junk Mac and one high-end Mac and claim excellence and discriminating standards in computers.

So a computer for $400 is junk. Apple wouldn't lower themselves to such trashy standards. But $600? That's divinity printed on silicon, apparently.

Never in the history of the world has $200 made such a huge amount of difference.

 

[linux2mac]

Vizio is just pimping more windows, virus prime crap. No matter how much they try to clean up a wintel system it is still a wintel system.
Go Mac and you will never go back.

Reminds me of when I asked an IT colleague of mine about Windows 7. I told him I heard from forum members here that Windows 7 was the best ever. His reply, "it's still Windows." In other words - still "prime crap."

I have been Windows free since 2007 and have not looked back since.

 

[Renzatic]

I decided to stick with Windows back in 2009 because, when it comes right down to it, they're all basically the same. Might as well stick with what I got, so I don't have to rebuy all my software.