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Cheap Lightning cables?
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LOL, you're very welcome...and nobody's crying...just being wise. FYI, my statement may be incorrect, but statistically it's likely true....about a 93% chance.
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Seriously?
I went and bought two lightning cables from Apple, why? Because I don't think it is worth the risk.
I'd rather pay $25 AUD per cable and know I am covered should anything go wrong, then risk using a dodgy cable.
That chip that is in it, we don't know for certain that the chip doesn't communicate with the diagnostic data on the phone and log that the right cable was used...
Imagine it does for a second, you use your iPhone5 for 6 months, only using your cheap cable, the one that doesn't log data to your phone, you take it in because it fries, they hook it up to their diagnostics app, and bam, know you are using dodgy cables, because who can use an iPhone for 6 months without plugging it into the right cable every day?
I went and bought two lightning cables from Apple, why? Because I don't think it is worth the risk.
I'd rather pay $25 AUD per cable and know I am covered should anything go wrong, then risk using a dodgy cable.
That chip that is in it, we don't know for certain that the chip doesn't communicate with the diagnostic data on the phone and log that the right cable was used...
Imagine it does for a second, you use your iPhone5 for 6 months, only using your cheap cable, the one that doesn't log data to your phone, you take it in because it fries, they hook it up to their diagnostics app, and bam, know you are using dodgy cables, because who can use an iPhone for 6 months without plugging it into the right cable every day?
I don't know about AUS, but I can tell you in the US Apple can't deny warranty support unless they can prove the cable caused damage. So they can log all they want. If the cable works and never causes an issue, there's nothing to fear. And I won't be buying cables that haven't been proven already. And that's why I'm not buying these highly questionable first batches of cables. I'll wait for a reliable source that I trust.
Break out the tin foil. I've used cables that didn't come with the devices for decades, never a problem. The iPhone is no different. Apple loves customers like you because they can sell you a $3 cable for $20
Well I won't claim i make more money then you because I don't know how much you make. I will claim I'm smarter than you because you'll pay 5x more for the same cable.
If apple can prove whats happened yeah. But i'm sure if it does, and i go into the store and tell them its not working, do you think they will really turn me away?
LOL, you're very welcome...and nobody's crying...just being wise. FYI, my statement may be incorrect, but statistically it's likely true....about a 93% chance.
No one percenter, no care.
Long time lurker here, but just wanted to share my experience with this.
I have been using OEM and chinese knock off cables both for a decade, and I have boiled them down into two categories:
First are cables for data transfers that aren't any kind of program/config/executable data. This would be things like HDMI cables, digital audio cables, DVI cables, etc, cables that transmit data that if interrupted would not corrupt, ruin, fail, any of the devices either transmitting, or receiving the data. For this category, I use nothing but 99 cent chinese knock offs. Every HDMI cable in my house is 99 cent ebay, and I have never not once in YEARS had a single problem with any of them, same goes for my digital audio cables.
The other category, is every other kind of cable. Ones that either transmit data that can possibly corrupt or ruin the sending/receiving devices if interrupted, or contain data that isn't just 1's and 0's. This also includes cables that carry a charge to a device, either charging its battery, or providing power for its operation where specific voltage is required. For these I have had a long time history of failure and issues with the chinese knock offs, and so I use nothing but OEM for this kind of data. The hassle of having device corruption because my 99 cent cable was slightly wiggled funny, is too much for me to handle. I won't say never, but I cannot remember the last time I've ever had an OEM cable cause me an issue.
This isn't gospel of course, but I hope it helps.
FWIW: I ordered a USB/lightning cable for my car from the apple store. I've never used a chinese cable with my iPhones. Whatever you choose, just be careful, these fun devices we have aren't cheap
I have been using OEM and chinese knock off cables both for a decade, and I have boiled them down into two categories:
First are cables for data transfers that aren't any kind of program/config/executable data. This would be things like HDMI cables, digital audio cables, DVI cables, etc, cables that transmit data that if interrupted would not corrupt, ruin, fail, any of the devices either transmitting, or receiving the data. For this category, I use nothing but 99 cent chinese knock offs. Every HDMI cable in my house is 99 cent ebay, and I have never not once in YEARS had a single problem with any of them, same goes for my digital audio cables.
The other category, is every other kind of cable. Ones that either transmit data that can possibly corrupt or ruin the sending/receiving devices if interrupted, or contain data that isn't just 1's and 0's. This also includes cables that carry a charge to a device, either charging its battery, or providing power for its operation where specific voltage is required. For these I have had a long time history of failure and issues with the chinese knock offs, and so I use nothing but OEM for this kind of data. The hassle of having device corruption because my 99 cent cable was slightly wiggled funny, is too much for me to handle. I won't say never, but I cannot remember the last time I've ever had an OEM cable cause me an issue.
This isn't gospel of course, but I hope it helps.
FWIW: I ordered a USB/lightning cable for my car from the apple store. I've never used a chinese cable with my iPhones. Whatever you choose, just be careful, these fun devices we have aren't cheap
Some people will pay £60 for a HDMI cable.... others will take the sensible route, and get one for £5...
You Chose!
You Chose!
I love how people bring up people's jobs/income because they don't want to spend $20-30 on a cable. Why spend more money on something that does the same thing? I have at least 10 30 pin cables that are all from monoprice and work fine. I'm not going to say anything else because I don't care to fight with people online.
Check your math, not a one percenter either.
Oh, and I wasn't talking to you anyway.
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Short of calling a person "47%" you come off as elitist... and 19 dollars for a cable that costs somewhere between 50 cents and 2 dollars to make is completely unreasonable, especially when you're trying to get the public to adapt a new format. This isn't as crazy as firewire 15 years ago but it's nearly as bad as Sony and their proprietary formats. The biggest problem with lightning is that it offeres no benefits to the consumer other than sheer physical size, nearly the exact same size as Micro USB I might add. It's a classic case of price gouging. It's the exact same as what caused the downfall of Sony in my opinion, arrogance.
Also just cause YOU can afford a few cables doesn't mean that EVERYONE can afford a few cables.... once upon a time you probably had a toy/device/baseball card that you saved your hard earned money to buy. The iPhone could be that purchase for a person. Their prized possession in their meager collection of "toys". Think about that.
I for one would rather spend 19 dollars on a nice lunch than spend that on a single cable wire that I know the actual value of.
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Did you ever think that people look at something and find no value in it with a certain price tag? It could be that $10 matters to the person but for many people, myself included, I find the cost of cables and adapters that Apple makes to be egregious. The profit margin on things like that is high and we're forced to pay it until Monoprice comes along. Monoprice, in my experience, as proven to be quite reliable.
Like you, I work for a living. Unlike you, I see no need to pay the premium for certain items simply because they're "genuine" Apple. Especially when that premium is completely unnecessary.
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Based on a decade worth of cable buying, Apple branded cables are just as poor quality as 3rd party ones. But on top of that, Apple offers no options in cord length so why spend $20 on a disposable cable that doesnt even reach the top of my bed when I can (eventually) use that same $20 to buy half a dozen cables of various sizes?
I bought 1000 2M iPhone cables(30 pin) for £0.40 each and sold them for £5 each. I only got about 15 back faulty. All imported from China.
Perfect.
Perfect.
For sure! I wouldn't have a problem spending $19 now so I have two, and wait to get more... but they are too short. For my work phone (4S), I have a much longer cable from monoprice. Its been great.
But when you buy a bunch, that $10 adds up... But its more then $10 actually. I bought a bunch of 30-Pin cables off monoprice for like $2 each, and they were longer ones too. So, I saved $17 per cable. That is pretty significant.
Yea, my problem right now is the fact that not many people have them yet. With the 30-Pin adapter. I could always count on my friends/family having a way for me to charge my phone if I needed to no matter where I was.
Now, none of my friends or family have the iPhone 5 yet. So I am the only one with the lightning adapter. So I have to carry it around with me.
I also like have lots of spare cables for my devices. I have only had a phone die on me once because of this. Two upstairs (bedroom and office), downstairs, the basement, my car, and my office.
I suspect the "chip" inside the lightning cable may be for handling various advanced functions or maybe some level of signal processing.
If you want a charge-only lightning cable, or even a charge/usb only cable it should be no problem.
Where the knockoffs will fail is functions like video out, audio out etc and so forth.
If you want a charge-only lightning cable, or even a charge/usb only cable it should be no problem.
Where the knockoffs will fail is functions like video out, audio out etc and so forth.
I have this problem too... My bed is really tall, and when I am charging my phone, I can't really pick it up when I am using the stock cable
If the knockoff cables that come out aren't being made in the same factory as the official ones, they'll be made right next door.
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