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Chinese Source Claims iPhone 5S and 5-Inch iPhone 6 to Launch in 2013

Myiphone7 said:
I agree. I honestly didn't even mind the 3.5 inch screen bc my thumb reaches better.

The iPhone 5 rocks for me just bc of the weight. If they can make The next iPhone even lighter I'd be tempted.
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I'm not trying to be rude but have you ever heard anyone say that their phone is to heavy to carry.
 
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beosound3200 said:
you're not holding your tv in your hand nor in your pants, thats the difference

there's practically no confinement in tv sizes - the bigger the better, nor in desktop monitors, also can be huge. i would prefer 30'' imac

but laptops have those confinements because they need to be mobile

smartphones have a huge confinement. size of one's pocket, size of one's hands, one hand operation.

im the first and loudest guy that will tell you his appreciation of big screens, i adore big screens, but there's one thing more important. practicality. i dont carry my imac around so the big screen isnt an issue, its a plus, but a mobile phone... if i cant type a message (basic function) and operate a phone with one hand comfortably then its not a phone...

i use it for those things you mentioned also, but texting isnt better on bigger screen you can barely hold, nor is emailing. surfing definitely is, but i would rather surf on a huge screen. and i do.

and thats the problem. people want their phones to be computers. they are not, and they will never be. they need to be small, thin, light and do that limited number of operations they are designed for perfectly. its not perfect in any way if i can barely hold it with one hand. maybe one day we'll have expendable screens, i would love that, but i could still hold it with one hand

so i chose two devices that are great in what they do. i watch movies/games/heavy reading/surfing on my imac and make calls/messages/emails/'remote' stuff on my compact iphone

i cant be both lawyer and a pro basketball player. i need to choose one thing, hence:

SPECIALIZATION (a term that describes human evolution from prehistoric societies to today)

a phone is a phone

a computer is a computer

and a laptop is a laptop

if you mix them, you get bad hybrids, bad compromises, that arent great in anything, just average, or below

so, galaxy s3 is worse than iphone in basic phone functions and practicality, not to mention battery life, and also worse than imac in terms of gaming/watching movies/performance

if you ask me, thats not a good phone, its too large to be a phone, its to small to be anything else. so whats the catch?

let me ask you, where's the limit? in tvs there are non, i would like a 100 inch tv. but in smartphones, wheres the limit?
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Everything your talking about is YOUR PREFERENCE. Yours. Does not mean everyone agrees. Everything in Red is your opinion. Just because you find it difficult or uncomfortable to hold a larger phone does not mean everyone will. If you enjoy your smaller phone then Im happy for you. If a phone is a phone you say..then go back to a flip phone and use it as a phone. Things evolve with technology.
 
beosound3200 said:
you're not holding your tv in your hand nor in your pants, thats the difference

there's practically no confinement in tv sizes - the bigger the better, nor in desktop monitors, also can be huge. i would prefer 30'' imac

but laptops have those confinements because they need to be mobile

smartphones have a huge confinement. size of one's pocket, size of one's hands, one hand operation.

im the first and loudest guy that will tell you his appreciation of big screens, i adore big screens, but there's one thing more important. practicality. i dont carry my imac around so the big screen isnt an issue, its a plus, but a mobile phone... if i cant type a message (basic function) and operate a phone with one hand comfortably then its not a phone...

i use it for those things you mentioned also, but texting isnt better on bigger screen you can barely hold, nor is emailing. surfing definitely is, but i would rather surf on a huge screen. and i do.

and thats the problem. people want their phones to be computers. they are not, and they will never be. they need to be small, thin, light and do that limited number of operations they are designed for perfectly. its not perfect in any way if i can barely hold it with one hand. maybe one day we'll have expendable screens, i would love that, but i could still hold it with one hand

so i chose two devices that are great in what they do. i watch movies/games/heavy reading/surfing on my imac and make calls/messages/emails/'remote' stuff on my compact iphone

i cant be both lawyer and a pro basketball player. i need to choose one thing, hence:

SPECIALIZATION (a term that describes human evolution from prehistoric societies to today)

a phone is a phone

a computer is a computer

and a laptop is a laptop

if you mix them, you get bad hybrids, bad compromises, that arent great in anything, just average, or below

so, galaxy s3 is worse than iphone in basic phone functions and practicality, not to mention battery life, and also worse than imac in terms of gaming/watching movies/performance

if you ask me, thats not a good phone, its too large to be a phone, its to small to be anything else. so whats the catch?

let me ask you, where's the limit? in tvs there are non, i would like a 100 inch tv. but in smartphones, wheres the limit?
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Dude, you're really wrong here. A smartphone is not just a phone. Buy a brick if you just want a phone. The smartphone revolution of the last 8 or so years is built on the idea that you can combine multiple devices (phone, mail, video, photography, music, games...) into one and carry it around in one pocket. The better a device does all of that and more, the more attractive it has been to the consumer. If you want to view mail, read your kindle, watch youtube, view photos and video, you need a larger screen. That precise size is up for debate, and open to opinion, but it's there nonetheless.
 
nick_elt said:
This is where you go wrong. Even in the original iphone keynote its marketed as not just a phone. If a mobile was just a phone everyone would still be rocking a motorola startac.
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you know what i mean, phones are trying to be imacs, well, they cant

please people, dont turn this i some kind of argument, im just here for a casual chat, there arent many people i can talk about this with, if any, aside from this forum :)

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Gulo said:
Dude, you're really wrong here. A smartphone is not just a phone. Buy a brick if you just want a phone. The smartphone revolution of the last 8 or so years is built on the idea that you can combine multiple devices (phone, mail, video, photography, music, games...) into one and carry it around in one pocket. The better a device does all of that and more, the more attractive it has been to the consumer. If you want to view mail, read your kindle, watch youtube, view photos and video, you need a larger screen. That precise size is up for debate, and open to opinion, but it's there nonetheless.
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phone/computer/laptop are terms for sizes of the devices

phone will always be a phone, our hands are the problem. but south koreans and other are choosing to oppose this confinement
 
beosound3200 said:
you know what i mean, phones are trying to be imacs, well, they cant

please people, dont turn this i some kind of argument, im just here for a casual chat, there arent many people i can talk about this with, if any, aside from this forum :)
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I dont think they are trying to be imacs. We are lucky these days to have the ability to not only talk on a phone, but text, surf, navigate, get info when we need it and much more. And if that can be done on a small screen, large screen, square..whatever its all good. And if you say its just a phone why do you keep comparing it to laptops and computers and TV's to make your point

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beosound3200 said:
you know what i mean, phones are trying to be imacs, well, they cant

please people, dont turn this i some kind of argument, im just here for a casual chat, there arent many people i can talk about this with, if any, aside from this forum :)

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phone/computer/laptop are terms for sizes of the devices

phone will always be a phone, our hands are the problem. but south koreans and other are choosing to oppose this confinement
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I dont think its our hands that are the problem..I think its yours
 
jasvncnt said:
Everything your talking about is YOUR PREFERENCE. Yours. Does not mean everyone agrees. Everything in Red is your opinion. Just because you find it difficult or uncomfortable to hold a larger phone does not mean everyone will. If you enjoy your smaller phone then Im happy for you. If a phone is a phone you say..then go back to a flip phone and use it as a phone. Things evolve with technology.
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of course im speaking for myself, a cant speak for you

but what you're saying is that s3 is better than iphone for strictly phone operations (one hand operation, messaging) and better than imac for lets say gaming and movies

is that correct?

or are the red parts of my post correct?

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jasvncnt said:
I dont think they are trying to be imacs. We are lucky these days to have the ability to not only talk on a phone, but text, surf, navigate, get info when we need it and much more. And if that can be done on a small screen, large screen, square..whatever its all good. And if you say its just a phone why do you keep comparing it to laptops and computers and TV's to make your point
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im not, you are...

you want your phone to be a laptop

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jasvncnt said:
I dont think its our hands that are the problem..I think its yours
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you all must have very large hands. you know what they say about people with extremely large hands :p
 
beosound3200 said:
of course im speaking for myself, a cant speak for you

but what you're saying is that s3 is better than iphone for strictly phone operations (one hand operation, messaging) and better than imac for lets say gaming and movies

is that correct?

or are the red parts of my post correct?
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OK see now your not seeing my point. I never said the GS3 is better then the iphone in any regards. Im not here to argue whats better. Again its preference. It seems as though most of your points were so against the larger screens. Bottom line is some of us enjoy a larger screen for whatever reason. If you dont see a need for it or its too big for you to use comfortably then stick with the smaller screen. Thast all. And yes the Galaxy s3 is better at all.:D

Whats wrong with wanting my phone to do everything its capable of doing? I never said I want it to be a laptop. It will never be. Can you imagine if devices just "stayed" at the point they were designed and never advanced.
 
jasvncnt said:
OK see now your not seeing my point. I never said the GS3 is better then the iphone in any regards. Im not here to argue whats better. Again its preference. It seems as though most of your points were so against the larger screens. Bottom line is some of us enjoy a larger screen for whatever reason. If you dont see a need for it or its too big for you to use comfortably then stick with the smaller screen. Thast all. And yes the Galaxy s3 is better at all.:D

Whats wrong with wanting my phone to do everything its capable of doing?
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haha im not here to protect apple

im here to protect my ability to use a high end phone with one hand during all operations that im using that phone for. basically, im pulling straws, because eventually all high end phones will became unnaturally large. oh well

i hope they dont
 
beosound3200 said:
haha im not here to protect apple

im here to protect my ability to use a high end phone with one hand during all operations that im using that phone for. basically, im pulling straws, because eventually all high end phones will became unnaturally large. oh well

i hope they dont
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I hear ya. But since you have your dedicated devices for your needs..and just use your phone for the basics..then just keep the phone ya got. You'll never have a need to upgrade :D
 
jasvncnt said:
I hear ya. But since you have your dedicated devices for your needs..and just use your phone for the basics..then just keep the phone ya got. You'll never have a need to upgrade :D
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thats what i said in my first post. it appears that ill have to keep my iphone for the foreseeable future :mad:

i just dont appreciate people trying to make something into something it cant be

for example a phone into a fully fledged media center which has a large screen as a requirement. and we all know, screens are never large enough. thats the reason of my fear
 
beosound3200 said:
thats what i said in my first post. it appears that ill have to keep my iphone for the foreseeable future :mad:

i just dont appreciate people trying to make something into something it cant be

for example a phone into a fully fledged media center which has a large screen as a requirement. and we all know, screens are never large enough. thats the reason of my fear
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But if your phone does everything you want..then why are you "stuck" with it.
Regardless of screen size I'm sure new phones in the future will be adding more features that you dont think the phone needs anyways. I think you'll be fine.
 
tbrinkma said:
Google's Play Store may be seeing a faster *percentage* increase in revenue than the App Store, but by the last set of numbers I've seen, Apple's App Store is seeing a faster *absolute* increase in revenue. So, if those trends continue, the Google Play Store will never catch up with Apple's App Store.

It's easy to have a huge percentage increase in something small. It's much harder to have a huge percentage increase in something large.

A has 5 of something, and gets 10 more, A's holdings increased 200%.
B has 1000 of something, and gets 100 more, B's holdings increased by 10%.
B's holdings have increased by 1000% more than A's holdings.
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If A keeps increasing at 200%, and B keeps increasing at 10%, A will overtake B and leave B choking in the dust.

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j1787 said:
Samsung and other Android devices have changed the market and that's a fact. Apple must make changes for a number of reasons to keep market share.
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Nobody can play catch-up like Apple can. Nobody even comes close.
 
I'm excited for a larger iPhone. I upgraded from the 4 to the 5 for the larger screen, and it's just not different enough - the width is exactly the same, so it's not really much more usable for texting or web surfing - but the aspect ratio sure makes Youtube and movies easier to watch.

Sure, a bigger iPhone is reactionary, but so was the iPad mini. Does that mean Apple shouldn't pursue the markets? THAT would be bad business. You have to realize, that when most tablets are ~7", and most of the higher-end Android phones are approaching 6 inches, Apple has to do something to stay competitive.

Personally, I'm hoping that they'll put a Wacom digitizer into their products sooner rather than later - Windows 8 and the Galaxy Note series really seem to have generated newfound interest and I'd love an iPad mini with pressure sensitivity.

PS: Thinner? I'm curious how much farther Apple can go. The headphone jack is the limiting factor in how much thinner it can get (much like USB ports in the new rMBP's). I wonder if Apple will need to 're-invent' the headphone jack soon?
 
jasvncnt said:
But if your phone does everything you want..then why are you "stuck" with it.
Regardless of screen size I'm sure new phones in the future will be adding more features that you dont think the phone needs anyways. I think you'll be fine.
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because i like technology, especially the latest and greatest

im not against the function, im against the form factor, eg. the hugeness of it

phone with 4 inch screen can have all the functions of the phone with a larger screen. i agree, some functions are more pleasant on the larger screen, but those functions are even better on different devices, so why satisfy a function that a) is better on some other devices b) makes a phone inadequate for a 'phone' function, if you get me

its a compromise i dont appreciate. hence imac as a fullfledged media center, and iphone as a phone with a pletora of bonus features. but its still a phone

a phone - device that can be used entirely with one hand

a tablet - device that can be used entirely with two hands

laptop - device that can be used only on solid surfaces, not in the air

those are form factors

s3 is a hybrid between a phone and a tablet

it cant be used with one hand, so its worse than a phone. a tablet has much larger screen so its better at consuming content. so why a phone so large?

but thats not the point. thats the matter of preference. (one or two hands)

what i was trying to say from the beginning is that samsung doesnt think larger screen is better. they just want to compete against apple in hardware. and thats hard. apple has been in miniaturization industry for very long time. and thats why they can make a device 2/3 of volume but still on par performance-wise

but look at it this way. would apple really oppose so much to the phablet concept if it was indeed universally wanted?

as i said. current huge screen trend (numbers) is misinterpretation. people have no choice. high end device? chose: apple or huge screens? thats it

but i repeat, this is solely my opinion and my representation of available facts. as always, only time will tell

and i dont have anything against samsung...
(well, i do, they are back-stabbing bastards concentrated only on market share in a huge number of commodities regardless of quality, you could say they dont have character, ass licking bastards)
...in this thread but they are the most popular of android manufacturers. so whenever i say samsung, i say manufacturers of high end huge screen android devices :)
 
No way!

Apple should release a larger iPhone this year. Not because of Samsungs large phones but because many really do want bigger phones.

Apple Should keep the 5s and upcoming 6 with the same screen size. However, the iPhone 6 can be thinner and be dubd the iPhone Air.

The Larger 5 inch iPhone should absolutely be a better overall phone. I think that Apple should call it the iPhone PRO. But it would make more sense o lunch it next year but the timing would be better for this year.

Apple should also make a new smartphone that is a little bit cheaper, but not much cheaper than the Current iPhone. It should have the same materials as the current iPhone but with the 3.5 inch screen. Alot o people still want that small and sleek phone instead of a brick. This one should be called the iPhone Mini or iPhone Air


This would mean that Apple would have an iPhone mini, Air, and Pro. 3 models o satisfy and Apple customer. Making the iPhone 6 to and 5 inch would be suicide. I like my 4s and don't want a bigger phone. The name scheme would also fit better with the Mac family as it is today. People would be able to relate the Apple could further create an household names fr the different models.
 
I hate the form factor of the 5 so would love a larger/wider phone.

I'm hoping it would come out this year but not holding my breath.
 
Ugh. So, now Apple just sells basically one device in different sizes and flavors:

iPod Touch (basically a mini iPad mini)
iPhone (mini iPad mini with phone)
iPhone Maxi (will this be as big as iPad mini?)
iPad mini
iPad
and maybe some kind of giant iPad we haven't seen yet?
 
beosound3200 said:
you're not holding your tv in your hand nor in your pants, thats the difference

there's practically no confinement in tv sizes - the bigger the better, nor in desktop monitors, also can be huge. i would prefer 30'' imac

but laptops have those confinements because they need to be mobile

smartphones have a huge confinement. size of one's pocket, size of one's hands, one hand operation.

im the first and loudest guy that will tell you his appreciation of big screens, i adore big screens, but there's one thing more important. practicality. i dont carry my imac around so the big screen isnt an issue, its a plus, but a mobile phone... if i cant type a message (basic function) and operate a phone with one hand comfortably then its not a phone...

i use it for those things you mentioned also, but texting isnt better on bigger screen you can barely hold, nor is emailing. surfing definitely is, but i would rather surf on a huge screen. and i do.

and thats the problem. people want their phones to be computers. they are not, and they will never be. they need to be small, thin, light and do that limited number of operations they are designed for perfectly. its not perfect in any way if i can barely hold it with one hand. maybe one day we'll have expendable screens, i would love that, but i could still hold it with one hand

so i chose two devices that are great in what they do. i watch movies/games/heavy reading/surfing on my imac and make calls/messages/emails/'remote' stuff on my compact iphone

i cant be both lawyer and a pro basketball player. i need to choose one thing, hence:

SPECIALIZATION (a term that describes human evolution from prehistoric societies to today)

a phone is a phone

a computer is a computer

and a laptop is a laptop

if you mix them, you get bad hybrids, bad compromises, that arent great in anything, just average, or below

so, galaxy s3 is worse than iphone in basic phone functions and practicality, not to mention battery life, and also worse than imac in terms of gaming/watching movies/performance

if you ask me, thats not a good phone, its too large to be a phone, its to small to be anything else. so whats the catch?

let me ask you, where's the limit? in tvs there are non, i would like a 100 inch tv. but in smartphones, wheres the limit?
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So you speak for everyone? No one needs a larger phone than what Steve Jobs gave us?

Well, the limit is what you can comfortably carry in your pocket and hold with one hand. (note, I didn't say use with one hand. That's personal preference). That really seems to be about 5". Maybe 5.5". There's a helluva lot of room for phones between that and what Steve blessed us with. Don't be so personally offended that people think differently than you do. I could give a crap if you prefer to use a 2" wide smartphone, so why are you getting all butthurt over folks wanting something else?

Apple is a big, smart company and if anyone can make a larger phone fantastic, it's them. I have confidence in them.
 
The big iPhone is designed for China market, big LCD for Chinese fonts.

For those customers who like small iPhone, they don't have to upgrade.

Everytime when I look at my friend's iPhone, it's so small that it just looks like a minature iPad for Barbi Dolls, it's a toy for a toy.
 
Why do people obsess with bigger phone?

It's a phone for God sake. No matter what, my next phone will not be an iPhone for sure. Apple only doing catch up nowadays with their product. And also it won't be a Samsung. Cheap brand. LOL
 
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