Finally, somebody with insight on MR
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He's nothing short of a genius.
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Not a chance. Haters gonna hate
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Chris Lattner Says Opportunity to Work on Tesla's Ambitious Self-Driving Efforts Was 'Irresistible'
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Finally, somebody with insight on MR
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He's nothing short of a genius.
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Not a chance. Haters gonna hate
Work for Tim Cook (aka the Jon Sculley of watchbands) or work for the heir to Steve Job's ambition who is revolutionizing cars and just landed a freaking rocket on a barge?
This cascades to the consumer: Despite being a committed Apple guy (Steve Jobs gave my first year convocation at Reed and Crandall gave us beers), I just turned my airport time capsule into a glorified backup disk + network switch combo while my new Google Wifi solves all of my signal issues that couldn't be solved by any array of Apple products. One of the things that hooks up to my Google Wifi network is my Model X. And I'm seriously considering getting a Pixel instead of the next iPhone, even though I've had every iteration of the iPhone to this point.
Honestly, our privacy is ****ed anyway, so I might as well have **** that works or is cutting edge.
This cascades to the consumer: Despite being a committed Apple guy (Steve Jobs gave my first year convocation at Reed and Crandall gave us beers), I just turned my airport time capsule into a glorified backup disk + network switch combo while my new Google Wifi solves all of my signal issues that couldn't be solved by any array of Apple products. One of the things that hooks up to my Google Wifi network is my Model X. And I'm seriously considering getting a Pixel instead of the next iPhone, even though I've had every iteration of the iPhone to this point.
Honestly, our privacy is ****ed anyway, so I might as well have **** that works or is cutting edge.
So....
"Tesla Autopilot is semi-autonomous in its current state for tasks such as steering and parking. Tesla's second-generation hardware suite has eight cameras that provide 360 degrees of visibility around the car at up to 250 meters of range. Twelve ultrasonic sensors and a forward-facing radar allow for detection of objects, even through heavy rain, fog, dust, and the car ahead. "
Yes, but Apple has a whole range of different colour watch bands, and phones now in pink.
I mean, come on, there is no comparison, Apple is so far ahead
I hate to burst your Apple bashing bubble, but even though Tesla had a lead, many car manufacturers have a lot of the same tech. I am a Tesla enthusiast, but even aside from the many manufacturers that have now developed self-driving cars (At last count 19 manufacturers are developing them with several fielding cars already) most folks don't realize it, but even the "lower price end" cars like Toyota and Hyundai now have forward facing millimeter wave radar, automatic braking, pedestrian detection, lane departure return, 360 top down view, automatic parking, etc. Toyota's plan is by the end of this year is for all of its cars to have these as standard or as an option. Yes, the technology is well on its way to ubiquity and that's why I believe Apple and Google both realized that they can't compete with the car manufacturers who have now largely built or are developing their own autonomous systems.
Again, Tesla is a great company but Elon would LOL at your suggestion that Tesla is anywhere near the diverse technology research engine Apple is. Apple spends around 11 billion dollars a year on Research and Development, Tesla, around 800 million.
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That is interesting. Also, what I think is interesting is a former Apple employee actually answering questions to a rumored website. Being how secretive Apple is, it's appears rare.
This is so true !! I do not know how much he is involved in Xcode (which by the way is the developer's equivalent to iTunes) but some parts of it that his Swift team seem to be more involved in are really bad . SourceKit crashes far too often with Swift, lack of proper Swift refactoring tooling (when 3rd party IDEs already have it) and the complete joke that the various automatic Swift migrators (for converting existing code bases to latest Swift syntax) have been to name but a few ...
So....
"Tesla Autopilot is semi-autonomous in its current state for tasks such as steering and parking. Tesla's second-generation hardware suite has eight cameras that provide 360 degrees of visibility around the car at up to 250 meters of range. Twelve ultrasonic sensors and a forward-facing radar allow for detection of objects, even through heavy rain, fog, dust, and the car ahead. "
Yes, but Apple has a whole range of different colour watch bands, and phones now in pink.
I mean, come on, there is no comparison, Apple is so far ahead
When I read something like this and think to a time when autonomous cars will be the norm, one big question sticks in my head: who is going to keep all these cameras clean?
My reversing camera can become totally obscured with dirt in a week. My wife's car hasn't been washed for months.
These autonomous cars are going to need a greater level of maintenance that I just don't think the average driver will be interested in.
Self driving cars are the white elephant (in the room) of the millennium. They'll never actually be adopted en masse. Ever. It's conceptual at best. Ok. Fine. Was Apple clever by not investing? Nope. Coincidence. They don't invest any more. In anything. Everybody happy. Fantastic!
Wow, that makes Apple seem even sadder than I thought.
Hopefully, somebody is embezzling and stashing the dough offshore.
Doesn't this say it all? Tesla are pushing forward with exciting new technology that is truly groundbreaking. They create products that astound the markets. What we see might not be 100% polished but we can see where it's going. New iterations come along at breath-taking speed (literally!). Elon has said he's aiming to produce a car that will drive itself trans continent, refuelling itself enroute as required, a car that will go and park itself, returning on request. All in the next few years. Apple? MacPro? ...in fact any desktop Mac. So we get cool emoji, new watch bands and what else? For the last 3 years I've heard Timmy tell us that Apple's product pipeline is the best in the history of the company, just watch this space. Every year so far nothing has emerged that makes the world go "wow". Personally I can't see what is in Apples future that requires a HQ like the spaceship. When it was conceived, yes. Now? Not so much. Just shows how far Apple has fallen from being an industry disrupter in just a few years. The money is still flowing for now but if I was offered a job at Tesla while working for Apple I know where I'd place my future.
There's fewer variables as well, it's a more controlled environment.
It might sound crazy, but I think autonomous flying cars are more viable than normal self driving cars.
So, both you and your wife have the ability to plug a charger into your phone/tablet etc every day or two, but you lack the ability to wipe dirt from the lens of a camera once a week, or even as you say months?
Riiiiiight.......
Chris, can you persuade Mr. Cook to come along with you.
We'll be alright without him. Honest.
Pretty sure if timmy joins Tesla. They will deliver cars on time and make tremendous amount of profit and continue to innovate (Elon)
I wipe my reversing camera, but 8 of them? And what about being on the road for a couple of hours? They'll soon dirty-up and then the car is essentially half blind.
Try driving without ever washing your windscreen and you'll see what I'm getting at.
I believe it was the DVD Player at fault there.
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On my car which has blind spot detect the system has told me a couple times it isn't working while in the snow. I agree I can see problems here, maybe force the system to stop working and make the person drive until they get it washed? An inconvience but I'm sure most people will be happy it's off.
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Self driving cars are going to make people more acceptable with longer commutes, allowing cities breathing room ( a MASSIVE problem in the world now). They will also encourage tourism as people will travel longer distances as cars will be far cheaper, and less of a hassle then planes as they also become safer than they are now. Will actual 'self driving' cars with no steering wheels be mass adopted? Probably not. But Tesla's idea for it is truly an innovation in cars and the for the rapidly growing world.
I suspect his services may be needed as the company who makes the current Autopilot system, an Israeli company called Mobileye, has decided to cut their contract with Tesla because of how they're trying to turn Mobileye's system into a fully fledged self driving system even thou Mobileye insist it was never designed to be one.
Right now Tesla is relying purely on regular visual light cameras for longer range sensing even thou they can't tell things apart when they're the same color and I genuinely hope Chris can convince them to start using a laser LIDAR like every other company making systems marketed as self-driving. This has already had lethal consequences when the system couldn't tell the sky apart from a slow moving tractor trailer and the passenger in the driver's seat didn't notice his car was ramming itself windscreen first into the back of said tractor trailer.
Right now Tesla is relying purely on regular visual light cameras for longer range sensing even thou they can't tell things apart when they're the same color and I genuinely hope Chris can convince them to start using a laser LIDAR like every other company making systems marketed as self-driving. This has already had lethal consequences when the system couldn't tell the sky apart from a slow moving tractor trailer and the passenger in the driver's seat didn't notice his car was ramming itself windscreen first into the back of said tractor trailer.
I suppose you don't fly in aircraft then. You know those things that can auto-land in zero visibility at 180mph?
So we have a guy like Ellon and another like Lattner developing autonomous vehicle technology. Arguably two brilliant minds, people are even throwing out comparisons to Steve Jobs. Is it really your assertion that in the end what will stop this from happening is they won't be able to find a solution to dirty cam lenses?
I am not even an inventor and I can visualize a few ways that this could be handled. One way is we could have little mini me windshield wipers for the lenses. Another way would be sharks with lasers.
The solution I can see is like the new Apple watch to stay waterproof using it's speakers to blow out water. So in some sort of similar fashion a fan is used to keep water and dirt off the lenses. Cams are in some sort of small enclosure open towards the direction the lens faces. The fans blow hard enough that the pressure doesn't allow anything in the case.
Another way i can see is there are two faces on the cam. One on the front one on the back. When one gets dirty it changes to the other and the one not in use is in some sort of receptacle that washes it.
Now imagine somebody much brighter than me (difficult I know) was trying to solve this problem.
Would someone with knowledge on the subject be willing to explain to me in layman's terms why it takes as long as it does to develop a programming language? Swift is still heavily under development we're told, and while I find the idea fascinating, I am clueless as to what it all entails. Would love to learn more about the process.
Cheers!