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Chrome Now Scores Faster Than Safari in Speedometer Benchmark

JPack said:
The comments here are probably a good indication of who bought 8GB vs. 16GB RAM on their M1. ?
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I don't use chrome, but I've heard it uses around 250MB per tab.

I've always had a lot of tabs open and since Safari added tab groups I've gone even further - I have hundreds of tabs now and Safari is only using 3.4GB. About what Chrome would allegedly use with just 14 tabs.

I'd probably need a Mac Pro with 512GB of RAM to switch to Chrome - or I'd need to change how I browse (switch to using bookmarks instead of tabs maybe? That sounds like a pain in the ass).
 
hagjohn said:
Compatibility may not be a big issue soon.

https://web.dev/interop-2022/
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I wouldn't count on that. Most of the areas where Chrome has a feature that Safari is missing, it's because Google thinks that feature is a good idea and Apple doesn't.

FLoC for example - Google wants to track users, Apple does not. Or Local File Access - Google wants to be able to read and write local files anywhere on your computer, Apple barely even allows apps to do that (especially on iOS) and generally anything a website tries to store, Safari will delete it after a wile to prevent anything being used to track users.
 
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Sophisticatednut said:
They where bad because apple was lazy and used bad code with little commitment. Yet it made great sense for anyone not using a Mac. It could have even been a true competitive browser to chromes market.
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Well, in order for that to have a chance to happen, Apple need release Safari for Windows and Safari for Android.

The world is not centered with Apple, it is more or less centered around Windows and Android. You just need to look at market share to know that.

Safari doesn’t have chance against Chrome, if it is absent from Windows and Android. People like me who changes between iOS and Android, MacOS and Windows will much more prefer Google to sync staffs across different platform.

But then if Apple offers their staffs on Android and Windows, then why would anyone spend big money on Apple’s ecosystem?
 
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ian87w said:
Apple really needs to restart making Safari for Windows, or even Safari for Android.
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Why? How would that benefit Apple?

ian87w said:
Safari is only advantageous for people in a complete Apple ecosystem (having iPhone and Mac).
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I use safari because I like the user interface and privacy features. Don't see how that has anything to do with the "Apple Ecosystem".
 
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mnsportsgeek said:
Might be time for me to drop safari. Several years ago Apple really devoted resources to making it a great browser. Now it's being ignored.
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I think the beauty of iOS is its integration.

If safari is fast enough for most tasks I don’t see any point to switch to other browser as safari s deeply integrated with other stock apps on ios, e.g. Apple Pay, password management (Keychains), translate, hide my email, etc.

We use the phone for completing daily tasks and leisure, not as a lab to compare whether any app runs faster than other a few percent.
 
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Taz Mangus said:
I suspect Apple will have an update soon that improves its performance.
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Surely it will trigger a speed race between two browsers.

However, I would like apple to focus more on bug fixing and the enhancement on integration, e.g. occasional flickering of image display, more lang support for in browser translation, better visual presentation for offline reading mode, better detection on password prompt, etc.
 
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abhibeckert said:
Why? How would that benefit Apple?


I use safari because I like the user interface and privacy features. Don't see how that has anything to do with the "Apple Ecosystem".
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It is true that safari has the advantage for integration with other apple native app and device.

Ppl normally refer Apple Ecosystem to syncing data among apple devices, e.g. bookmarks, continuous web browsing, passwords, airdrop.

For me, I do not sync with other apple device, though I have an old but trustful 2011 MacBook Air. I find safari integrating with other stock apps nicely and seamlessly, password management in particular, and really make my life easier than using other browsers.
 
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chucker23n1 said:
Two reasons: 1) at the time, Chrome didn’t exist, and Safari could’ve become a contender against IE and Firefox. 2) for Windows web developers to test their code for iPhones.
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Any corporate move was initiated by benefit, i.e. improving market share. Back then, Windows is the king and the whole world, Apple was confident to lure window users by letting them tasting the beauty of a apple browser.

Once upon a time, FaceTime was the king of video conf, which being envied by andriod users. Now, ZOOM rules hence Apple FaceTime was made accessible by clicking a link, a step away from developing an android ver of FaceTime.
 
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People just need to get over the whole "chrome is bad for battery and RAM". The same phrase year after year. Chrome is much better now when it comes to battery life. If you don't like Chrome, which I understand from a privacy perspective, use another chromium/blink browser. I use Brave and it's much faster than Safari and not a battery killer.

Safari is just not that good anymore... but some users on MacRumors will defend Safari just because it's the default macOS browser. Please stop the fanboy attitude and try other browsers.
 
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Google already has the vast majority of the browser market. Why would the want to convince Safari users?

Couldn't be so they could get all the Mac users' data, could it?
 
telo123 said:
Nice.

But here comes the people, like a broken record, will scream at the top of their lungs, “privacy!” “RAM and CPU overload!!”
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I was actually thinking how impressive it is that Google is able to make the browser so fast while collecting all that data on users.
 
quaresma said:
People just need to get over the whole "chrome is bad for battery and RAM". The same phrase year after year. Chrome is much better now when it comes to battery life. If you don't like Chrome, which I understand from a privacy perspective, use another chromium/blink browser. I use Brave and it's much faster than Safari and not a battery killer.

Safari is just not that good anymore... but some users on MacRumors will defend Safari just because it's the default macOS browser. Please stop the fanboy attitude and try other browsers.
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any non-Chromium browsers you would recommend?
 
fenderbass146 said:
Compeition is a good thing, I'm actually really impessed with the Chromium based Edge on Mac. If it wasn't for all my password management with icloud I'd switch. Safari has been giving me lots of headaces of late.
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Yeah I'm same, Edge is surprisingly good especially with ability to use diff profiles so I can have work and personal separate. Just wished Private Relay worked with it..
 
I really want to hate Chrome, but outside Safari which is my main browser, I find Chrome the go to browser for websites that don't work properly in Safari.

Edge has an issue with the menu bar being too big for 14" Macbook's with the notch and ends up with the menu stretching all the way to the right, Brave has it's own ad blocker that can't be completely turned off & Firefox uses an excessive amount of battery on the M1 mac which is a real shame as I do like Firefox a lot otherwise.
 
quaresma said:
People just need to get over the whole "chrome is bad for battery and RAM". The same phrase year after year. Chrome is much better now when it comes to battery life. If you don't like Chrome, which I understand from a privacy perspective, use another chromium/blink browser. I use Brave and it's much faster than Safari and not a battery killer.

Safari is just not that good anymore... but some users on MacRumors will defend Safari just because it's the default macOS browser. Please stop the fanboy attitude and try other browsers.
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Chrome isn't a battery killer anymore. At least not the ARM version. I ran activity monitor today to check energy usage and it was almost identical to Safari only using a little more energy. Firefox used about 10x more than Safari or Google Chrome when watching a Youtube video which makes it unusable in my opinion.
 
Nice, but I won't use Chrome on my Mac for privacy reasons or on my PC for RAM issues. Also, I see the Chrome RAM issues in the real world. I buy 16gb relatively high-end laptops for my team. My team uses their computers for office-work related activities, not programming, design or anything like video or audio editing. Fairly regularly someone complains about the laptops being slow and things that seem like RAM bottleneck. When the laptop has 16gb and the use-case is Microsoft suite of programs, web browsing, and Zoom and that is about it, there is no way that 16gb of RAM should be a limiting factor. I'm sure it is Chrome causing the issues. I'm not going to ban Chrome. But I'm not going to use it myself.

I have 8gb on my Mac mini, use Safari almost exclusively on it (with Firefox as the fallback if I run into an incompatible website, which seems to happen less than it did a couple of years ago), and I never run into RAM issues.
 
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