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Firefox with uMatrix will show you just how often Google looks at you online.
The irony there is that 80% - 90% of Mozilla's revenue comes from the deal with Google to make it the default search, so the incentives for Firefox to keep Google off your back are not there. Supposedly, the deal between Google and Mozilla is about to expire and the Mozilla execs are very worried that the money will go away. That would devastate Mozilla overall (huge downsizing coming). Unfortunately, they have never really found a way to diversify their revenue mix and nobody pays for browsers. In fact, the typical sources of funding (ads, etc.) are all the things that people are trying to block.
 
But it doesn’t have promotion support, now safari has it I can’t go back to chrome it’s horrible
I have 120hz support in chrome on my 14”, as evidence by ufo-test.com and how smooth the scrolling is

Sometimes it gets stuck in 60 after disconnecting my external monitor, but a quick window resize and it’s back to smooth
 
On my machine:
Chrome 146
Edge 129
Firefox 121
Safari 120

Firefox is the best browser available as far as I'm concerned. Chrome is the only alternative that has enough performance to make me consider changing, and the fact that nearly the entire web uses it as the basis to test around makes me consider it.

That said, no browser other than Firefox lets me have the features I want built in
  • Tabs on top
  • Prevent browser window from closing when the last tab is closed
  • Set both home page and new tab URL to about:blank
  • Quick and easy to use bookmarks button with drop down list on the left beside the back button
  • uBlock Origin
 
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Seven percents faster is not enough percents for me to use it. Twenty percents might be enough percents but not seven.
 
Safari’s speed doesn’t bother me. The fact that they want to make it the MySpace of browsers, does. It went from sleek and clean to clunky horror show over the space of one pandemic.
 
On my machine:
Chrome 146
Edge 129
Firefox 121
Safari 120

Firefox is the best browser available as far as I'm concerned. Chrome is the only alternative that has enough performance to make me consider changing, and the fact that nearly the entire web uses it as the basis to test around makes me consider it.
I use both Safari and Firefox, but this test is not terrible useful for normal usage, it seems to highlight caching.
M1 24" iMac latest beta Safari 15.4 - 285, Firefox 97.0.2 - 229
M1 Max MBP latest beta Safari 15.4 - 295, Firefox 97.0.2 - 229

Both on ethernet, 12.3 beta 5. I thought it was interesting that Firefox which seems to load pages equally as fast is quite a bit lower in the result? I don't this is a good test at all.
 
I mean, yeah! They can make it as fast as they want but we’re gonna keep harping on the until you all stop selling yourselves to the corporate machine 😁
Because most people just don't care or don't know, except for us here. It's also kind of ingrained in most people out there to download Chrome right after starting their Mac.

Didn't you know how it once cool to trash everything MS, now it's cool to trash everything Google?
Of course. Internet Explorer trashing was kind of funny. Google trashing is just going to naturally happen considering it is the most popular

When I read your post the first time, I thought you said CPU overlord. 😂
LOL, I mean there's also truth to that 😂
 
Nope. No lie. Safari 5.1.7 was released in May 2012. Hasn’t been updated since then.
I primarily use Chrome myself, but what am I missing? I've got Safari 15.2 installed...are you just making a joke that none of the updates since 5.1.7 were noticeable/worthwhile improvements or?
 
But it doesn’t have promotion support, now safari has it I can’t go back to chrome it’s horrible
I haven’t tried chrome on my MacBook Pro screen. I’d think they would’ve implemented that change real quick, but I guess not. Whatever. I hate chrome.
 
Technically, the browser is just a feature-enriched wrapper around the rendering engine. So how are you restricted? Where does WebKit (on iOS) fall down for you?

It's inferior in many ways, compared to android alternatives. Listening audio directly from a website? Forget background playback the reskinned Safari will likely shut it down in a few minutes...

But yeah battery time stays impressive at least ;)
 
I still wouldn't install Chrome full time. So many love it, and so many have apparently had issues with it at times. I'll stay with FireFox, and extensions. Safari is a close second as some sites don't want to play on FF with some extensions.
 
I'm so sad. I have a MacBook Pro 14" and for the life of me, I can't notice ProMotion anywhere. In Safari, Chrome, the desktop or any app. I actually find the screen to be quite slow to refresh, I see trailing when I move windows and the motion quality (regardless of the browser) on Netflix is way, way below what I get on my OLEC TV (Sony A9S). Is there a switch somewhere to enable promotion (it's already activated in display settings). Do you know a website that lets you watch 120Hz video?
Probably due to the poor response time Apple’s LCD panels have. I can barely notice it on the iPad Pro’s as well. If you look at the reviews on Notebookcheck they list the response times which are terrible on the new MacBooks and mediocre on the IPP’s. The only thing ProMotion does is act as a crutch for Apple LCDs.

Now iPhones with ProMotion are a different story since they use OLEDs with near instant response times. I would rather own an OLED with no pro motion than an LCD with ProMotion in Apple’s current display lineup.
 
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Nice.

But here comes the people, like a broken record, will scream at the top of their lungs, “privacy!” “RAM and CPU overload!!”
How about not having a foreign server installed to run in the background. I had no idea until the IT director at a hospital I used to work for showed me why he had his guy scrubbing Chrome off the computers. I asked him why the nurses where even able to download it and it was because google mad adjustments to chrome that meant the only way to block it on Windows devices was to block access to some work related servers items.

The reason it is a resource hog is because it constantly running and transmitting data back to google.
 
I use Chrome for work related things - mainly compatibility and actual working extensions for some of the tools.

It does load faster than safari and overall it’s without any doubts the most safe as it comes to compatibility.

Safari is for private pages and although it’s for me loading pages slower, I can’t put my finger on it but I have the feeling that somehow it renders things better. Probably I am deluding myself but there is something in the UI that makes it more pleasant.

YouTube is the slowest for me in general on Safari (streaming and sometimes loading 4k content) but I don’t really mind
I think it has a lot to do with developers depreciating standards to implement google friendly code. People don’t see it, but like Microsoft in the 90s Google is breaking we compatibility to force everyone through their technology which they get access to the data.
 
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