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Class Action Lawsuit Filed Over iPhone 4 Glass Breakage
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Unfortunately this does not motivate Apple to change. Only a class action lawsuit would have that effect.
This forum is starting to get ridiculous!!
Why do so many of you blindly defend apples products?
As much as I love my macs and iOS devices, I still think apple are answerable to a lot in terms of their approach to design.
It seems to me that they occasionally take their eye off the ball and go for form over function, and I agree that in the iPhone 4s case this is quite true.
The ad clearly states 30 times stronger than plastic... An exact replica of the iPhone 4 made with plastic on the outer casing would likely withstand a 3 or 4 foot (or more) a lot better than the current glass does.
Ps. Citing dictionary definitions is a somewhat childish way to defend your blind faith... How do you know what went through the engineers mind when they wrote that description!!!!
Why do so many of you blindly defend apples products?
As much as I love my macs and iOS devices, I still think apple are answerable to a lot in terms of their approach to design.
It seems to me that they occasionally take their eye off the ball and go for form over function, and I agree that in the iPhone 4s case this is quite true.
The ad clearly states 30 times stronger than plastic... An exact replica of the iPhone 4 made with plastic on the outer casing would likely withstand a 3 or 4 foot (or more) a lot better than the current glass does.
Ps. Citing dictionary definitions is a somewhat childish way to defend your blind faith... How do you know what went through the engineers mind when they wrote that description!!!!
^^^^This.
Yes, cause helicopters are known to just bounce off unscratched when they fall.
Seriously people?
That's the best you can come up with? We both know that comparison is utterly ridiculous.
Take a rock and throw it as hard as you can at a helicopter's windshield. It will bounce right off of it. Debris hits a helicopter's windshield all of the time. Know why it doesn't shatter? Because it's thicker.
Throw a rock as hard as you can at an iPhone 4..... my guess it will shatter. The glass may be the same grade as a helicopter's or a high-speed train's windshield, but it isn't as durable because if how thin it is.
The only ridiculous thing I'm seeing here is the lawsuit and the people defending this BS.
So maybe Apple should not have used a material designed to be used in an object that's not likely to be dropped in a device that is likely to be dropped?
Exactly. What do you expect from a phone. You want the glass to be 1cm thick... on both sides??? There;s nothing wrong with saying its the same glass as on a helicopter. It;s just that the glass is smaller. So scaling down proportionately, throw a rock the size of a pea at a speed that's also scaled down, and you get a non broken, non scratched screen. Drop it on the floor so that the screen hits a protruding point on the floor, it will break. Too much force! Nothing new here.
Being an engineer, I should know. Things break, thats life, get over it. If i drop anything that's expensive, I don;t expect it to be alright. I go "Oh sheet!" and then "Oh please don't be broken, please don't be broken.... oh thank God.... you survived this one!
The point is that helicopter pilots and train drivers rely on their windscreen being shatterproof!!!
Both vehicles encounter any number of 'bits' of debris when travelling at high speed, these conditions are very similar to the force endured to a phone falling rapidly onto a hard surface from even a small height!
Like I said before this blind faith that so many demonstrate is getting ridiculous!!!
I disagree. I have a hairline crack running up the back of my 3GS from a drop. I have no scratches, no cracks, nothing on my iPhone 4. And I've dropped it on concrete, hardwood, etc... You name it. I will say this though, I'm really lucky my iPhone 4 hasn't broken... but I am also really lucky my 3GS didn't break either. Plastic or Glass... it doesn't matter. If you want an indestructible phone... pretty sure they make those. Aren't they called rugby's or something to that nature?
It's implied.
When people hear/read that it's the same kind of glass used in helicopters and in high-speed trains, and that it's ultradurable, it doesn't surprise me that it would lead them to believe that it should survive a fall.
+1, very well said.
He seeks to have everyone who had to pay apple $200 to get the glass replaced, reimbursed. I think that's a great goal.
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absolutely right, who in their right minds designs a device which is essentially a glass sandwich, when they know its going to be used by millions of people, constantly throughout the day, while on the move etc...
and we're probably stuck with this design for another 18 months!
It's actually not.
It's more like the company saying, "New PermaFrost (TM) ice, the same type of ice that's at the Arctic circle!" (implying ice that does not melt, without specifically saying it)
And then the ice melting when left on the counter, and the company arguing that "Well, it's the sub-zero temperatures that really contribute to the non-melting property of perma frost ice in the North Pole!"
Same *****.
Apple SHOULD be held accountable for this. They've made some bold claims over the years, and if you watch the video of the iPhone 4, where they talk about how amazing the glass is, it's easy to see how consumer could be misled by the language--and really, the theatrical production of the message--and lulled into believing something that isn't technically true.
You guys are defending language by dissecting the "technical" merits while forgetting how pathos-driven (emotion-based) most advertising--especially the video of the iPhone 4 by Apple--really is. Apple needs to quit doing that.
First thing we do, let's shoot all the marketers. Couldn't agree more. But second, let's go after all the morons who don't even realize they need to try to learn something and see through the marketing. Although, that may reduce the Earth's population further than we'd like.
My sister has had 2 or 3 of the iPhone generations, and at least 4 different units among all that, I think. She has broken each of them. Course, she's an alcoholic, there may be some relativity, there.
Not true, those debris aren't fixed in place, so they are knocked out the way.
The ground is fixed. So the iphone has to knock away itself. Too heavy.
Good lord you guys, is this seriously that hard to comprehend?
Everybody knows that glass breaks. No ****. This isn't about that.
This is about Apple's BS claim that it's 20-30 times stronger than plastic - a statement that is completely misleading. It gives the impression that the iPhone 4 is 20-30 times more durable than the older models, when this is clearly not true.
I swear, people on this entire forum drive me to drink heavily...
Everybody knows that glass breaks. No ****. This isn't about that.
This is about Apple's BS claim that it's 20-30 times stronger than plastic - a statement that is completely misleading. It gives the impression that the iPhone 4 is 20-30 times more durable than the older models, when this is clearly not true.
I swear, people on this entire forum drive me to drink heavily...
only in america
Agreed. (And I'm American).
I'm sorry this idiot with the lawsuit deserves to go to prison for 30 days (thats my solution to frivilous lawsuits) in order to realize its not good to waste the courts time.
Next I'm sure he will want to sue someone for dropping a laptop out of his own stupidity an suing because it broke too.