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How on earth did my 14 year old daughter get so many accounts on here? That's the only explanation for the amount of melodrama being exhibited on this board!

Yes, it's disappointing to hear that the chime won't be there anymore, and I've been a Mac user since the early 90s, but come on, people. Are you guys really writing off Apple because they found there was no need for a startup chime?

Really?
So you along with other bored keyboard warriors get upset over other people getting upset over this topic ?
Hmm, maybe you just like complaining about complainers ;)

The melodrama is the one playing out within Apple over the past 5 years. Loosing the chime on its own is not a big deal, but loosing it along with many other things that made Apple what it is today, is what's upsetting a number of people to different degrees.

What made the Macintosh unique was many idiosyncrasies, like the chime, that back in the 80s & 90s differentiated it from the grey boring PC masses. You were there, right ?

I certainly won't be loosing any sleep over the chime, but as Pink Floyd so aptly put it, it's just another brick in the wall.
 
The magsafe connector is more important and useful than any of those things.

This is the one I just don't get. MagSafe was an amazing charging connector, so I'm sad to see it depart. I'm guessing if you want to be able to charge from any port, the magnetic feature would be horrible at connecting any other device.
 
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But, I would guess that most people don't charge their iPhone via their computer.
One of the benefits of devices sharing common interfaces is that you only need to travel with one charger. Since carry-on weight is at a premium, carrying seperate chargers for phones, iPads, secondary ext. batteries and other USB peripherals. Now, those extra chargers weigh about as much as the many dongles you'll be carrying, so who cares, right ?
 
As much as these things were great, all good things come to an end. Did you really expect the glowing Apple logo and a chime to be present in every macbook forever? They were cool things, but really guys, it's not the end of the world.
Yes, its the end of the Mac world.
 
Apple goes the way Microsoft went years ago when it lost market share. Microsoft is struggling back slowly, while Apple disregards it's diehard core customers. Phil Schiller said it was "sad" that some of us used 5-year-old MacBooks, missing the point entirely. Having a 5-year-old MacBook that is still going strong is precisely WHY some of us use Macs. It is also why many Windows users moved to Apple. Seems like they think they know better than Steve Jobs. Onwards and downwards to the disposable computer. More profits? I doubt it. Slowly, surely and relentlessly Tim Cook and his cronies are amputating what sets the Macintosh apart from all other computers in pursuit of money.
 
So 19 pages due to shoddy journalism? The comments are of course valid in context of having the sound removed, as the headline suggested. And many are still valid to the extent the sound could be used in some practical reboots, but isn't enabled.

Though I do have to add, right or wrong, where's the courage of disabling it, but leaving it in the software? ;-)

I think i've spotted the pattern - Mac Rumors knows it's audience and now posts inflammatory posts to rile up the clicks and the forum posts for ad revenue.
 
One of the benefits of devices sharing common interfaces is that you only need to travel with one charger. Since carry-on weight is at a premium, carrying seperate chargers for phones, iPads, secondary ext. batteries and other USB peripherals. Now, those extra chargers weigh about as much as the many dongles you'll be carrying, so who cares, right ?

I don't get it... How is a small plastic piece that weighs less than 4oz so inconvenient to your life? And, as others have said:

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...=computers&field-keywords=usb-c+to+lightening

So... Yeah. I really don't understand your point.
 
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My God, get over yourselves. Its a 3 second chime upon boot-up. I'm not a Mac owner and never have been but I soon will be. I find the idea of a loud chime upon every boot slightly annoying. There's a few scenarios where this isn't ideal, like opening up your laptop while your partner is asleep next to you in bed or something. Its only there to confirm all diagnostics and pre-boot check stuff is fine. Now, that confirmation is seeing the Apple logo. More discreet and stealthy. I like it.

I also like the new polished steel insert over the glowing Apple logo. The cutout for the logo didn't give a feeling of solidness and integrity. I think its dumb that sunlight on the back of your display could totally ruin your viewing experience. On a mobile machine where you're outdoors, or possible near some bright light source with your display turned down low to save battery, what you see below happens. Unacceptable on a machine of this price for the silly novelty of showing a glowing logo around you. I don't get why people even liked that, I'd prefer the back of my display to be static and normal. Glowing Apple logos made MacBooks look like toys.

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All you whiners and complainers need to grow up. Apple is maturing, its dropped skueomorphism, cartoonish interfaces and slightly unnecessary boot sounds. None of you are making Mac users look like competent adults when you think a $600 billion dollar company is over because a boot sound got taken away. Seriously, what?
 
Most college students buy expensive computers with student loans. Then try to get out of the loans later in life. That's another thread.
Alright. Perhaps this is a bit more common in United States. I rarely hear any domestic student in Australia doing so.
 
I can clearly see the line between the lovers of Tim's Apple vs Steve's Apple here in the MacRumors forums.

Defend vs Attack, respectively.

It's time to let go, fellas. Steve's Apple is DEAD as fried chicken. If you don't like Timmy's direction for Apple, it's time to face the truth and move on.

It's painful, to be sure, but necessary.

I can't take this anymore.

It's like the husband whose wife has found a new man, despite decades of love and loyalty. The husband desperately tries to cling to someone she's not. He bargains, puts up with things, just to keep hope alive and get a glimpse of the magic that brought them together.

But the truth is sad and cold: there is no alternative but to let her go and find someone new.

Goodbye Apple, you cruel, cruel b***h.
 
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I can clearly see the line between the lovers of Tim's Apple vs Steve's Apple here in the MacRumors forums.

Defend vs Attack, respectively.

It's time to let go, fellas. Steve's Apple is DEAD as fried chicken. If you don't like Timmy's direction for Apple, it's time to face the truth and move on.

It's painful, to be sure, but necessary.

I can't take this anymore.

It's like the husband whose wife has found a new man, despite decades of love and loyalty. The husband desperately tries to cling to someone she's not. He bargains, puts up with things, just to keep hope alive and get a glimpse of the magic that brought them together.

But the truth is sad and cold: there is no alternative but to let her go and find someone new.

Goodbye Apple, you cruel, cruel b***h.

That's a really sad but fairly accurate way of describing how many people are feeling.

We can't blame Apple for going after a different market, but we can wish they could be bothered with us still.
 
It's like the husband whose wife has found a new man, despite decades of love and loyalty. The husband desperately tries to cling to someone she's not. He bargains, puts up with things, just to keep hope alive and get a glimpse of the magic that brought them together.
Very well said...
 
No more glowing logo. No more extension cord with a multi-thousand dollar laptop. No more control over when my computer boots up.

And now, no more startup chime.

It's official. Apple is dead to me.

Tim Cook, please resign. If you really care about the survival of the magic and heart and soul of the Apple that Steve Jobs created, you need to resign. You are killing everything that ever made Apple special.


Cook didn't get it in 1997–8, either. Jobs had to come back from NeXT and reboot Apple through the iEverything era. We're just NOW seeing the first significant post-Jobs concepts…alas. I was recommending new equipment purchases for a tech writing division in Silicon Valley in 1997–9, and those machines designed under Cook's watch were embarrassing!
 
So you along with other bored keyboard warriors get upset over other people getting upset over this topic ?
Hmm, maybe you just like complaining about complainers ;)

The melodrama is the one playing out within Apple over the past 5 years. Loosing the chime on its own is not a big deal, but loosing it along with many other things that made Apple what it is today, is what's upsetting a number of people to different degrees.

What made the Macintosh unique was many idiosyncrasies, like the chime, that back in the 80s & 90s differentiated it from the grey boring PC masses. You were there, right ?

I certainly won't be loosing any sleep over the chime, but as Pink Floyd so aptly put it, it's just another brick in the wall.

Let me just first explain that it's "lose", not "loose". Sorry to be a grammar nazi, but I see far too many people not understand the difference. You lose something, you don't loose it.

Also, I most certainly have problems with the new MacBook Pro and some of the things Apple has done, but they are real, legitimate things. And I'm not using the loss of a startup chime as an indication of anything except that they felt it unnecessary.

If you're going to complain about thing Apple is doing, talking about their "idiosyncrasies" is melodrama.
 
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