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cMBP Haswell? or discontinued

racer1441 said:
Then build a hackintosh. Most consumers don't give a flip about doing any of those things to their computer.
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What a stupid comment and a stupid suggestion.

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racer1441 said:
Their aren't enough people like you to make a market worth selling to.
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THERE is actually. Also, the only reason the retina MBP exists is because, unfortunately, the market for gullible consumers who buy way more than what they need because they think they may need it is massive. 99% of the people who bought a retina model don't need the retina screen.
 
racer1441 said:
Then build a hackintosh. Most consumers don't give a flip about doing any of those things to their computer.
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Most consumers don't give a flip about Macs in general. They care about iPhones and iPads. By your logic, Apple should just stop making desktops and laptops altogether.
 
mslide said:
Most consumers don't give a flip about Macs in general. They care about iPhones and iPads. By your logic, Apple should just stop making desktops and laptops altogether.
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Many people would already admit Apple has started down that path.

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scbond said:
THERE is actually. Also, the only reason the retina MBP exists is because, unfortunately, the market for gullible consumers who buy way more than what they need because they think they may need it is massive. 99% of the people who bought a retina model don't need the retina screen.
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Sure, that's the reason the MacPro sat for years without anyone touching it.

Face it. People who want to open up a computer and play around are a dying breed and not a minute too soon.
 
Stetrain said:
If you watch they keynotes where Apple introduced the retina models, they very specifically just called them the "Next Generation Macbook Pro".

The retina MBPs are the new Macbook Pro going forward. They just happen to still be selling the old one too for now.

I don't see them putting any significant engineering or design work into the old MBP at this point.
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This. And Apple isn't just going to add a retina display to a cMBP chassis. They'd have to redesign the whole thing for the higher capacity battery necessary for the display.

If one wants a cMBP then buy soon. Who knows when they will be discontinued? The Ivy Bridge models will be good for at least five years.
 
personally I think it's possible Apple are going to bring back the plastic MacBook.

though, I doubt they well let it have the same guts add the rmbp. likely a cpu with hd4400 or hd4600 graphics. it'd be pretty amazing if they let it have hd5100
 
The c is their best seller, yeah right they'll get rid of it.

Not enough people appreciate the retina to justify the higher price.

There is a massive piece of the market that still wants that lower price, no matter what a bunch of these guys think just because it makes more logical sense to buy a retina to them.

Apple wouldn't knock the retina down low enough to meet this price point, it lowers their profit margin way too much on the retina.

To a lot of people it doesn't sound better, and for that reason I am pretty confident we will see the cMBP back.
 
racer1441 said:
Buy a PC then, you can stick chips on boards all you want there.
Time to move on from that. Computers are consumer devices, not a hobby anymore. Apple needs to focus on the 95% of the market that wants to hit a power button and have it work, not the 5% that want to tinker.
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Sorry, who the heck are you exactly? And the reason you see fit to dictate what other people do is because...?
 
johnnnw said:
The c is their best seller, yeah right they'll get rid of it.
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Sorry, do you have some data I'm unaware exists that supports this claim?

Certainly in the 15", cMBP sales lag significantly behind Retina sales.
 
john123 said:
Sorry, do you have some data I'm unaware exists that supports this claim?

Certainly in the 15", cMBP sales lag significantly behind Retina sales.
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I just heard recently the 13" c was their best selling Macbook.

If I'm wrong correct me. Don't think I am though.
 
john123 said:
Sorry, do you have some data I'm unaware exists that supports this claim?

Certainly in the 15", cMBP sales lag significantly behind Retina sales.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/2...main-popular-macbook-pro-is-best-selling-mac/

About 50% are still the classic Macbook Pro sales. So if Apple wants loose 50% of their notebook sales, then Apple knows what to do.

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racer1441 said:
Then build a hackintosh. Most consumers don't give a flip about doing any of those things to their computer.
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Have you seen how many threads and post there are about upgrading SSD's and RAM, something a lot of Mac owners have done over the years? :confused:

I guess you work at Microsoft on the Xbox One department who is certain what all the consumers want?
 
john123 said:
Sorry, who the heck are you exactly? And the reason you see fit to dictate what other people do is because...?
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I can dictate because I'm right. What sells, macbook air laptops, the iphone, and ipad, not the cMBP and the Macpro.
 
Aegelward said:
personally I think it's possible Apple are going to bring back the plastic MacBook.
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And that would not be a day too soon. Aluminum may be nice for the Mac mini and the MacPro but is not a material to be used as thin as possible for a laptop - look at how many of Apple's aluminum laptops have dent damage. Plastic is resilient, IBM had it down to a fine art in their Thinkpads, but alas Lenovo has gone another way.
 
Although it seems logical for Apple to discontinue the cMBP and move on with the rMBP's, there will always be people who would prefer the classic version over the fancy retina. I think Apple could do the same as they did with the iPod Classic: still sell them, but without offering further updates.
 
UBS28 said:
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/2...main-popular-macbook-pro-is-best-selling-mac/

About 50% are still the classic Macbook Pro sales. So if Apple wants loose 50% of their notebook sales, then Apple knows what to do.
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Did you even look at this before you linked it? Apparently not. The Pro category includes "Retina" models. Those are what sell well, especially in the 15" line. In fact, read the text that accompanies the table:
The MacBook Pro makes up 70% of Apple's notebook sales, with more than half of those sales going to the Retina display-equipped models.


racer1441 said:
I can dictate because I'm right. What sells, macbook air laptops, the iphone, and ipad, not the cMBP and the Macpro.
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Actually, see the chart the other guy posted, which shows that sales of Retinas and MBPs exceed Airs by more than 2 to 1, but also demonstrates double-digit sales for cMBP models.

But that isn't even the point. Just because one product sells "more" does not mean that there is not a market or niche for another product. You assume you have enough domain knowledge and business training to know what should be killed. Clearly, you do not.

johnnnw said:
I just heard recently the 13" c was their best selling Macbook.

If I'm wrong correct me. Don't think I am though.
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Yep, see above.
 
You know, until this thread I had forgotten that I even have an optical drive in my CMBP. In the next month I'm going to be purchasing a new computer. Deciding between the 13" Air, a rMBP (13 likely), or a refurbed 27" iMac. I love having ethernet, I could care less about the optical. I just don't know whether to wait for Haswell or not, if that will likely be coming in the next two months. Ugh.

I do like the TB and HDMI ports on the rMBPs though...that could eliminate the need for the iMac and having potential display problems. Dammit Apple, damn you.
 
I'd be surprised if Apple update the cMBP again. They probably should have discontinued it last year.
 
I think there is a market for 2 MacBook Pro models. They should make the rMBP the mainstream and the cMBP for those who want hardware over screen. Having had just bought the cMBP 13 inch 2.9GHz i7, 8Gb ram, 750Gb HDD, I truly believe there are enough of the consumers that want the cMBP to warrant Apple keeping the product line. Whether they are going to we will see but I am hopeful, although it doesn't really matter to me because I will probably have this computer for 5 years, I do enjoy seeing upgrades though, whether I will have them or not. But owning the machine, there is something special about the cMBP. It's what ultimately got me to buy it, it's something I can't put my finger on but a certain heavy duty feel to it. I hope they keep it, so the people like me can continue to buy and enjoy the machine. :apple::D:apple:
 
Aegelward said:
personally I think it's possible Apple are going to bring back the plastic MacBook.

though, I doubt they well let it have the same guts add the rmbp. likely a cpu with hd4400 or hd4600 graphics. it'd be pretty amazing if they let it have hd5100
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That would have been fantastic, I love this white beast of mine.
 
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