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I'll add to it; my (work) Surface has it, and I like it. Far better than I expected… It's better on a desktop than a mobile anyhow, because when you sit down to use it, it has had a chance to find you already.
 
Well, they could just release an external keyboard with Touch ID at least. I‘m really sick of having to constantly enter my password, while on Windows this hasn‘t been necessary for years. The Apple Watch sometimes works for the login screen and for paying with Apple Pay, but it won‘t work for, say, a password manager.
 
Adding a TrueDepth camera system and Face ID to the Mac would be a logical next step for the feature

As if that is innovation? That is way overdue, and Apple is sadly catching up to other computers.
How about a touchscreen?
How about getting rid of that 10 year OLD DESIGN BASE and implement something more 2020 that you can actually move up and down and does not cost $999.00???
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I wish Apple would unify its product line instead of breadcrumbing its client base over the course of 5 years. I'm glad they seem to be favoring stability over rushing out with glitter and yoyos, but how many times do people need to sit through the same "wow?"-factor of a re-introduction of technologies that have existed in production for 5 years?
THere has NOT BEEN a WOW factor in a very long time in the entire computer line.
Even the new Mac Pro, is way overpriced leaving many Pro users without an option to buy decent priced modular Mac.
 
That means it'll come with MUCH better webcams. Bout time. Don't understand why they're stuck in the 2012s with their 720p FaceTime HD camera, even on their MacBook Pros.

MacBooks Pros, the only Pro is the price.
the entry level for a MBP 16 in 2020 should not ship with a 512 SSD.
It should have an HDMI, a better camera, user upgradable RAM, get rid of the lame touchbar and replace it with a full on touchscreen.
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Who told you Macs are dead 🤣
If they are not dead, they reduce the development team tremendously to the point of ridiculousness.
Mac Pro and Minis, 6-7 years for an update. That is pathetic.
iMac has the same 10 year old external design and still ships with a 5400 rpm drive in 2020.
MBP had a major keyboard problem for 4 years until they decided to fix it.
I would say it is way far from what Apple used to be.
 
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I think that we’re going to have to start to get used to a camera bump on the MacBook. I have a feeling that the sleek designs of the Ive era will be replaced by something a little more functional and rugged.
 
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I think that we’re going to have to start to get used to a camera bump on the MacBook. I have a feeling that the sleek designs of the Ive era will be replaced by something a little more functional and rugged.
how a camera bump will work when you close the lid?
 
I thought it would be coming to the iMac, but the prevailing argument was always that the MacBook lid is too thin to allow an improved webcam or a FaceID module.
They could make the lid thicker just where the FaceID system is (with a corresponding space in the bottom that it fits into when closed).
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how a camera bump will work when you close the lid?
With an indentation that it slots into, surely?
 
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I use Windows Hello on my Surface and love the convenience. However, I also love that my Mac Mini opens with my Apple Watch. Sometimes Windows Hello can be a bit annoying if I’m not looking the right way, which isn’t an issue with my Apple Watch.

I think having the watch as the “key”
to unlocking is the more elegant solution.
 
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Honestly I think it makes more sense to have Face ID on the Mac and Touch ID on the iPhone, since you primarily look at your iMac and handle your iPhone. Seems more natural and easier to implement into the respective form factor.
 
MacBooks Pros, the only Pro is the price.
the entry level for a MBP 16 in 2020 should not ship with a 512 SSD.
It should have an HDMI, a better camera, user upgradable RAM, get rid of the lame touchbar and replace it with a full on touchscreen.
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If they are not dead, they reduce the development team tremendously to the point of ridiculousness.
Mac Pro and Minis, 6-7 years for an update. That is pathetic.
iMac has the same 10 year old external design and still ships with a 5400 rpm drive in 2020.
MBP had a major keyboard problem for 4 years until they decided to fix it.
I would say it is way far from what Apple used to be.

Pro prices.

Dead specs.

I agreed with that you said.

12 year old designs. 6 year dev cycles.

Just pathetic.

Steve Jobs would have kicked the Mac dept's A*** over that MBP keyboard issue.

...and that heap of junk £1050 iCrap with duo and hard drive...with no retina display. Shame. SHAME!

Azrael.
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As if that is innovation? That is way overdue, and Apple is sadly catching up to other computers.
How about a touchscreen?
How about getting rid of that 10 year OLD DESIGN BASE and implement something more 2020 that you can actually move up and down and does not cost $999.00???
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THere has NOT BEEN a WOW factor in a very long time in the entire computer line.
Even the new Mac Pro, is way overpriced leaving many Pro users without an option to buy decent priced modular Mac.

The iMac ergonomic (giggles...) stand is a joke. And I'm sure they could come up with an iStand that doesn't cost £1k and that is just as rotaty... That stand isn't the 2nd coming...except on price.

Yeah. They killed teh WOW factor of the Mac Pro with WOW (drops dead from shock...) pricing.

Azrael.
 
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Unless you’re wearing a mask. Then TouchID is much better.

Why would you be wearing a mask sat at a desk?
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I’m so glad some of you aren’t Apple engineers.

Bumps and indentations to fit bigger cameras in? That would be hideous from a design standpoint.
 
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Why would you be wearing a mask sat at a desk?
Who says you have to be at a desk? Apple’s laptops get used a lot of places that aren’t desks. And things are going to go from back to completely back to normal overnight - masks are going to be with us for a long time, in a lot of different settings. Ask the companies that have open plan offices what they’re going to do when people start going back to the office. FaceID will be nice at home, bit not anywhere else.
 
Huh, so that mockup looks a little different from what I was imagining, but it's still okay I guess.

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Why would something that takes up half a centimetre of space on a current iPhone take up Half a square kilometre of screen space as per your render? There would never be a Notch on an iMac product ever, because Apple would rather increase the total bezel height if they couldn’t fit in the components of a front facing Face ID set up (they can) than to ruin the consistency of having a perfectly square screen for users. Silly render and silly post, but maybe you made that render (appropriate for 2015) and wanted to show it off.
 
As someone who clamshells my MBP, like iMac users, I have to use an external keyboard. Be nice if they added Touch ID to there keyboards too.

Nobody in Apple is insane enough to transmit biometric data over wireless. Hopefully.
 


Apple's Face ID feature that allows a device to be unlocked with a facial scan is limited to the iPhone and the iPad at the current time, but code found in macOS Big Sur suggests that Face ID may come to Macs in the future.

FaceID-iMac-REREREREMIX.jpg

Adding a TrueDepth camera system and Face ID to the Mac would be a logical next step for the feature, and 9to5Mac located Face ID references in the latest Big Sur beta, including an extension with code to support a "PearlCamera" function.

"Pearl" is the codename that Apple has used for Face ID and the TrueDepth camera system since the feature first launched in the iPhone X.

There are "FaceDetect" and "BioCapture" references inside the extension, and those names certainly suggest a TrueDepth camera feature for Mac.

Right now, Apple's MacBook Pro and MacBook Air models use Touch ID, and have a Touch ID button built into the keyboard that's powered by the T2 chips in the machines. Apple's Macs have supported Touch ID since 2016 when the Touch Bar was first introduced in MacBook Pro models.

There's no word on when Macs might get Face ID support or which Macs will be first to get it, but there are some major design tweaks rumored for machines like the iMac, the MacBook Air, and the MacBook Pro with the transition to mini-LED and Apple Silicon chips, so Face ID could be rolled out alongside of these updates.

It could also be a feature that will take longer to implement, and we've thus far heard no confirmed rumors on when Apple might make the transition.

Article Link: Code in macOS Big Sur Suggests Face ID Could Be Coming to Macs
MacBook Pro 14.1 inch, miniLed, Apple Silicon, Face ID, 1080p webcam. I am sorted.
 
I can’t believe it’s taken this long. Using Touch ID instead was just silly.


Apple's Face ID feature that allows a device to be unlocked with a facial scan is limited to the iPhone and the iPad at the current time, but code found in macOS Big Sur suggests that Face ID may come to Macs in the future.

FaceID-iMac-REREREREMIX.jpg

Adding a TrueDepth camera system and Face ID to the Mac would be a logical next step for the feature, and 9to5Mac located Face ID references in the latest Big Sur beta, including an extension with code to support a "PearlCamera" function.

"Pearl" is the codename that Apple has used for Face ID and the TrueDepth camera system since the feature first launched in the iPhone X.

There are "FaceDetect" and "BioCapture" references inside the extension, and those names certainly suggest a TrueDepth camera feature for Mac.

Right now, Apple's MacBook Pro and MacBook Air models use Touch ID, and have a Touch ID button built into the keyboard that's powered by the T2 chips in the machines. Apple's Macs have supported Touch ID since 2016 when the Touch Bar was first introduced in MacBook Pro models.

There's no word on when Macs might get Face ID support or which Macs will be first to get it, but there are some major design tweaks rumored for machines like the iMac, the MacBook Air, and the MacBook Pro with the transition to mini-LED and Apple Silicon chips, so Face ID could be rolled out alongside of these updates.

It could also be a feature that will take longer to implement, and we've thus far heard no confirmed rumors on when Apple might make the transition.

Article Link: Code in macOS Big Sur Suggests Face ID Could Be Coming to Macs
 
how a camera bump will work when you close the lid?
A bump on the back of the MacBook case.

I’d be surprised if even with just a front facing Camera that it could be housed Conpletelyin the lid of any of the current MacBooks.

Or it could be that MacBooks keep Touch ID and the iMac gets Face ID.

But I can’t imagine that Apple doesn’t realise that people expect better front facing cameras (especially nowadays) & we’ll be seeing a different looking set of MacBooks because of that.
 
Quite the opposite, in iPhones it makes sense while in Macs it doesn't make any sense at all, only when you wanna login your session. I want to actively "confirm" I'm making a bank/payment or whatever by using my fingerprint, and when I don't want to I just won't be doing it. But having a camera pointing at your face all day long just makes any confirmation de facto. And if to avoid that de facto confirmation they make you click somewhere/do something else, it basically takes away all that "comfyness" that FaceID would give you over touchID, which by the way is at the reach of your hand as any other key.

It would be much easier to unlock your Mac with Face ID than Touch ID just as unlocking with Apple Watch is easier than Touch ID. And just like on iPad Pro and iPhone, Apple would obviously make some sort of confirmation step for Apple Pay purchases. Maybe it could even be just clicking a button on the screen. Who knows?
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I think you can hold up pictures to unlock it. Or so ive heard.

I actually did that once in a Costco on a Microsoft Surface. It took a few tries, but after a while I got past “verifying it’s you” and it actually let me in.
 
Coming in the new Apple Silicon Macs (only). According to Apple it’ll take about two years to implement across the lineup. Completely expected.

Would be about right., Apple can also use the time to implement other stuff "just the way they like" and say "we couldn't do it before because we didn't have the same flexibility we have now"

Perhaps it was just perfect timing Apple were to transition silicon..... We'll see if they do FaceID for Intel Mac's, but that would seem "out of order"
 
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