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Maybe someday, adults will be mature enough and won’t shove into other people’s faces their sexual preferences. Nobody gives an f**** what you do on your bed and in your private life. What’s all this pride thing exactly for? I don’t see straight people shouting “Pride for straight people”, nor making straight male parades or whatever.

And about the physical attacks that happen to some gays, I don’t think the pride parades and other types of promotion of homosexuality accomplish anything positive really to protect these individuals.
Our society gets violent for a lot of reasons unfortunately. Everything has to start with the education at home and school and learn to respect one another but at the same time I don’t think there is any reason to promote across all media a sexual preference that is found only in a very tiny percentage of the population.
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I don’t think that by shouting “Pride” and doing parades with naked males is the solution to the violence against gay people.
If a person feels like he wants to attack a gay person he will do it no matter how many pride watch bands Tim releases.
It’s to raise awareness, similar to civil rights marches. There is no need for a heterosexual parade because heterosexuals aren’t discriminated against. Whisking through this forum shows that discrimination is quite prevelant.

People do care about what gay people do. They try to prevent them from being able to marry, adopt, etc....hence the need for such parades. Hetereosexuals aren’t fighting for equality, they are already the majority.
 
Follow up on that- Why is it causing this much controversy?

Because like anything associated with gays, or women, or black people, there’s a certain demographic of bigots here who lose their minds when Apple does anything that is seen to be supporting the equal rights of those groups, because they’re so incredibly insecure about themselves and their place in the world that they just can’t help but try to compensate by posting snarky comments on any related news post.

They follow the same pattern of being very strongly opinionated while simultaneously claiming they don’t really care about the topic, and that it’s everyone else who is fragile. Like I said earlier, it’s ironic that their behaviour ends up proving the very thing they’re railing against.
 
I am against corporations supporting causes in general. This doesn’t make me or many other people I know want to buy Apple products more. It makes me want to buy them less. That isn’t good for business.
 
How is ANY watch face news worthy? =O

ANY new adult watch face would be news since Apple is so stingy with releasing those. It's always some sort of kiddy or uber tech-o them for school kids. Now this, another "cute" design. Ugh.
 
This is for a really good cause and it seems like most people's heterosexuality is very fragile in here.
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Maybe someday, adults will be mature enough and won’t shove into other people’s faces their sexual preferences. Nobody gives an f**** what you do on your bed and in your private life. What’s all this pride thing exactly for? I don’t see straight people shouting “Pride for straight people”, nor making straight male parades or whatever.

And about the physical attacks that happen to some gays, I don’t think the pride parades and other types of promotion of homosexuality accomplish anything positive really to protect these individuals.
Our society gets violent for a lot of reasons unfortunately. Everything has to start with the education at home and school and learn to respect one another but at the same time I don’t think there is any reason to promote across all media a sexual preference that is found only in a very tiny percentage of the population.
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I don’t think that by shouting “Pride” and doing parades with naked males is the solution to the violence against gay people.
If a person feels like he wants to attack a gay person he will do it no matter how many pride watch bands Tim releases.
Nobody gives a "f**** "?
Tell that to those who violentely murder someone because of their sexuality.
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Can we have something celebrating heterosexuals too and not discriminate?
We have had that for centuries and still going...
 
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That term has almost become a cliche.

People who suggest that something might have lost its meaning are usually people who are advantaged by that being the case, even if it so obviously isn’t.

As for shoving it in people’s faces, how about this analogy: man I’m so sick of those Christians constantly pushing their religion down my throat, talking about their religious beliefs all the time and shoving it in my face by wearing crosses around their necks and putting crosses on the tops of buildings designed specifically to promote their way of life. Nobody cares what they do in their private lives, what’s all this proclamation for anyway? Why do they have public holidays and entire festive seasons for their beliefs, singing carols about it and having parades? You don’t see atheists insisting on public holidays and parades! How can I protect my children from Christianity when they insist on flaunting it in front of everyone, to the point of wearing symbols of it as jewellery!

lol...

If all of these symbolic things like watch bands and faces have no impact, why are people so sensitive about them? We all know the answer: they’re good and they do make a difference, as evidenced by how worked up bigots get about them.
 
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Seems like most people's heterosexuality is very fragile in here.
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Nobody gives a "f**** "?
Tell that to those who violentely murder someone because of their sexuality.

I get that. But I don’t understand how promoting pride days and gay parades solves the problem to the core. The same people who act violent towards gays, I think will still act the same no matter how many parades.
It’s only the law that can protect gay people actually from physical harm. And of course the education from home and school that harming physically another human being for their beliefs or sexual orientation is immoral and plain bad.
 
I get that. But I don’t understand how promoting pride days and gay parades solves the problem to the core. The same people who act violent towards gays, I think will still act the same no matter how many parades.
It’s only the law that can protect them actually from physical harm. And of course the education from home and school that harming physically another human being is immoral and plain bad.
They are promoting what was seen as "abominable" not long time ago and it still is by some closed minded people.
Pride means that we are proud to be who we are and finally be able to be included in the society dispite our sexuality and not be pointed out and seen as less than Human Beings. This is why these causes are very important and big corporations joining them can change the views of many who are still insecure to talk about these subjects, because they either refuse to avoid them or open their minds about something so natural as someone's sexuality. Violence might never stop and never will but that won't stop anyone from trying to prevent it, that's why nowadays there's a lot of information about the subject everywhere including in schools.
 
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He didn't miss anything. You made a completely stupid post and he pointed out why it was stupid. Your post was not complex.
And the ignorance continues. What’s worse is when it tries to come across as something else.
 
These days that wouldn't surprise me in the least.
It wouldn’t surprise you if someone wanted to marry a toaster? You think two consenting adults falling in love and getting married is dangerously close to marrying toasters?

Every day I’m further and further away from understanding how the conservative mind works.
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It’s to raise awareness, similar to civil rights marches. There is no need for a heterosexual parade because heterosexuals aren’t discriminated against. Whisking through this forum shows that discrimination is quite prevelant.

People do care about what gay people do. They try to prevent them from being able to marry, adopt, etc....hence the need for such parades. Hetereosexuals aren’t fighting for equality, they are already the majority.
Everything you say is totally obvious, but there’s no point trying to convince someone like that. They are motivated by homophobic feelings and that’s why they ignore the logic.
 
Hopefully the watch face isn’t region locked. This will be a HUGE hit in Saudi Arabi and Pakistan. I’m tingling with anticipation.
 
I get that. But I don’t understand how promoting pride days and gay parades solves the problem to the core. The same people who act violent towards gays, I think will still act the same no matter how many parades.
It’s only the law that can protect gay people actually from physical harm. And of course the education from home and school that harming physically another human being for their beliefs or sexual orientation is immoral and plain bad.

And when you're brought up in a country/state where parents believe homosexuality is wrong and that gays should either be cured/locked up/killed and the schools won't even mention homosexuality except to say its a sin (but are happy enough to say the universe was created about 3000 years ago), where's this education going to come from?
 
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People who suggest that something might have lost its meaning are usually people who are advantaged by that being the case, even if it so obviously isn’t.

As for shoving it in people’s faces, how about this analogy: man I’m so sick of those Christians constantly pushing their religion down my throat, talking about their religious beliefs all the time and shoving it in my face by wearing crosses around their necks and putting crosses on the tops of buildings designed specifically to promote their way of life. Nobody cares what they do in their private lives, what’s all this proclamation for anyway? Why do they have public holidays and entire festive seasons for their beliefs, singing carols about it and having parades? You don’t see atheists insisting on public holidays and parades! How can I protect my children from Christianity when they insist on flaunting it in front of everyone, to the point of wearing symbols of it as jewellery!

lol...

If all of these symbolic things like watch bands and faces have no impact, why are people so sensitive about them? We all know the answer: they’re good and they do make a difference, as evidenced by how worked up bigots get about them.
Your chosen examples are TERRIBLE.

I have never had a christian ‘push their religion down my throat’... who are the people in your circle? This hasnt happened to anyone I know..

Then we have “shoving it in my face by wearing crosses around their necks”. I have never seen anywhere in public, someone putting undue attention onto their crosses, theyre usually hidden under a shirt. Once again, who are you hanging out with? 50 cent? Also.. they seem very aggressive “shoving it in my face” ...wow

Then finally “putting crosses on top of buildings”. atleast there you have to look at a specific building. I cant read a newspaper, watch a tv show or movie, or express my point of view about a topic without having to conform to a PC standard which has never ever been imposed before, and if i dont agree with this anti-scientific understanding - that one can pick their gender or sex or nationality (yes that is a thing now) regardless of what their genetic or immediate circumstances, then i get called a bigot.

By the way, some of my closest friends are gay, i’ve known them for years, we’ve travelled half the world together. We talk about this stuff randomly too, but it’s at the point where its EVERYWHERE now, and its at the point where everyone is now hyper sensitive about anything thats ever said about anyones gender or orientation or even personal preference of any kind... you probably cant even compliment someone without a chance of offending them somehow.

It’s a dangerous, aggressive precedent this strong PC push is creating. It creates more hate than love. Everyone should do as they please, express them selves how they please, without third parties telling them what to do at every step. This works both ways.
 
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And when you're brought up in a country/state where parents believe homosexuality is wrong and that gays should either be cured/locked up/killed and the schools won't even mention homosexuality except to say its a sin (but are happy enough to say the universe was created about 3000 years ago), where's this education going to come from?

Personally I don’t care about the sin part that much. What it is, that sexual activity between two men at least, is unhealthy and carries disease risks for themselves, possible damage of the rectrum area etc.
Those things are undoubtedly true.
How can a logical adult person be ok with these risks?
 
That would certainly test one’s progressive open-mindedness. Minds are like parachutes, right?
Not at all. When I see a confederate flag I have a natural urge to burn and/or piss on it, and I think that’s the most progressive thing one can do considering what that flag of failure represents.
 
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