Code in watchOS 4.3.1 Hints at Upcoming Apple Watch Face Inspired by Rainbow Flag

[tshrimp]

Gay people as a collective have faced centuries of violent oppression and have survived, which is something to find pride in. What obstacle have straight people, as a collective, overcome to provide a comparable sense of pride?

So you can only celebrate or have pride in something if you were oppressed? Doesn't sound right. So you are okay with oppressing the right of a straight pride parade. interesting.

 

[Fugabutacus]

So you can only celebrate or have pride in something if you were oppressed? Doesn't sound right. So you are okay with oppressing the right of a straight pride parade. interesting.

I'm saying pride is an emotional response to achievement. The achievement spawning straight pride is _____________?

 

[Sefstah]

Mature enough? Shoving sexual preferences into other people's faces? Do you really mean that? Or do you mean it only as it applies to homosexuals? Our society is literally bursting from the seams with heterosexual sexual preferences plastered all over everything - it's literally everywhere, every media source, half the ads and billboards, you can't get away from it. Yet if any speck of homosexual preference is spotted, people get all upset about it. Do you see the double standard?

Two guys kiss on a TV program, and you get angry letter writing campaigns and angry petitions and boycotts from "righteous people doing Jesus's work" (funny, Jesus never advocated hating entire groups of people)... meanwhile, how many overtly heterosexual kisses and heterosexual couples were on TV that day? And where is the outrage against that? Try to convince me that this is about anybody showing their preferences for what gender they prefer.



Clearly you're wrong, when 14 states have had laws making various forms of sexual conduct illegal as recently as 2003, and they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the Supreme Court to get those laws struck off the books. And there are lots of fundamentalist types still screaming that they have a god-given right to treat gay people more poorly than straight people (funny, I thought Jesus's message was, "be kind to everybody and help others", not "go forth and hate and mistreat people in my name"). Plenty of people do apparently give a f*** what you do on your bed and in your private life. You don't feel that because you're not in their crosshairs.



Oh come on, pretty much every sporting event is a straight male parade. You don't really need to have parades for the majority group, they get better stuff and more recognition all the time (it's like people arguing against "Black History Month" by saying "when is White History Month?" - but White History Month is every month, they just don't call it that). We have things like Gay Pride parades and Black Lives Matter and the MeToo movement because there are still an alarming number of people in this country who think that gays and blacks and women aren't really equals to straight white males, and thus it's okay to be mean to them, take advantage of them, and treat them as less than human. Gay Pride isn't about "shoving their sexual preferences in your face" - you really can't make that argument until you are required by law to attend the parade and all traces of overt heterosexuality (e.g. every image of a scantily clad woman selling you something) are removed from public display (I wouldn't advocate that, just don't get your knickers in a twist when you see an advertisement with two men holding hands, and we'll call it even), and "Black Lives Matter" doesn't mean "Only Black Lives Matter", it means, "Black Lives Matter Too" - too many black people are still getting pulled over for "driving while black", and too many are getting shot by police (apparently police can take a white mass murderer armed with multiple guns into custody, after the white guy has shot a dozen people to death, but they'll shoot a black teenager to death 10 seconds after rolling up on a scene because "he might have a gun", and when it turns out he doesn't, they try to hide that fact). When we finally get to the point where large swaths of the majority groups stop trying so hard to take advantage of, hurt, and discriminate against the minority groups, then we won't need parades and movements to show solidarity with the minority groups.
[doublepost=1527710421][/doublepost]I regret that I can only give you one like for this. The same people who would be aghast that you are mocking them in this way, have no qualms about treating other groups exactly this way.

Particularly ironic because so many of the people doing this are "doing it in Christ's name", yet Jesus never said, "go forth and punish entire groups of people in my name". His message, as I recall, was much more about being kind to everyone. They'll selectively quote parts of the Old Testament to support their position, yet, funny, they don't call themselves OldTestament-ians, they call themselves Christians. It'd be neat if they started acting more like Jesus. Until then, they just look like a group using religion as an excuse to justify the bad behavior they already wanted to do.

Heterosexuals probably made whatever TV show or billboards you’re referring to. Don’t like it? Make your own. Thats the beauty of this country.

 

[CarlJ]

Heterosexuals probably made whatever TV show or billboards you’re referring to. Don’t like it? Make your own. Thats the beauty of this country.

You missed every single point I made in my post.

The OP was complaining about being confronted with other people's sexual preferences in public - he wasn't saying out loud "I don't like being confronted with homosexuals" but the message was quite clear - I was pointing out that the media is filled with images of overt heterosexuality, that he doesn't seem to have any problem with. Your answer is, that homosexuals should make more media? Entirely missing the point (BTW, you'd be surprised just how much media they make).

 

[Sefstah]

You missed every single point I made in my post.

The OP was complaining about being confronted with other people's sexual preferences in public - he wasn't saying out loud "I don't like being confronted with homosexuals" but the message was quite clear - I was pointing out that the media is filled with images of overt heterosexuality, that he doesn't seem to have any problem with. Your answer is, that homosexuals should make more media? Entirely missing the point (BTW, you'd be surprised just how much media they make).

If he doesn’t want his kids watching two men kiss, then thats his right to voice his opinion. If he’s ok with only watching heterosexual content that’s also fine. You can’t make him accept both if he chooses not to. It’s really not that big of a deal.

 

[Brandhouse]

Maybe someday, adults will be mature enough and won’t shove into other people’s faces their sexual preferences. Nobody gives an f**** what you do on your bed and in your private life. What’s all this pride thing exactly for? I don’t see straight people shouting “Pride for straight people”, nor making straight male parades or whatever.

Agree

 

[ErikGrim]

What it is, that sexual activity between two men at least, is unhealthy and carries disease risks for themselves, possible damage of the rectrum area etc.
Those things are undoubtedly true.

LOL. You just described heterosexual sex.

 

[SBlue1]

If he doesn’t want his kids watching two men kiss, then thats his right to voice his opinion. If he’s ok with only watching heterosexual content that’s also fine. You can’t make him accept both if he chooses not to. It’s really not that big of a deal.

Why on earth would someone not want his kids to see a couple share love, hold hands, being nice to each other, no matter what gender both are? This is pure hate. I just don't get it. I feel like I am colourblind and can't see a specific colour that those hateful people see... LOL

 

[MDF314159265]

I’m a flaming heterosexual and am certainly conservative leaning, but I don’t mind the rainbow backgrounds. I’m a Christian and the rainbow means something totally different to me.
Besides, I think it looks great on an OLED screen.
That said, Apple undoubtedly promotes one agenda with the rainbows (such as the rainbow watch bands) and I say if they’re gonna promote their agenda, they ought to open it up to others as well. How about a nylon pink band for breast cancer? How about something resembling the autism ribbon? Or (though it isn’t my style and it doesn’t truly represent racism) a confederate flag band or even emoji? Or camo bands? Or skin-tone-matched bands? That would be awesome.
Just saying.

 

[WarHeadz]

Or (though it isn’t my style and it doesn’t truly represent racism) a confederate flag band or even emoji?

Yes, it does. Anyone who believes otherwise is in denial or intentionally obtuse.


To answer your question why Apple doesn’t promote every single cause...because they don’t have to. This is a company that has been historically supportive of LGBT rights, now has a gay CEO, a huge proportion of LGBT employees, and avid brand loyalty amongst the LGBT community. This is their cause of choice.

In-n-out burger prints bible verses on soda cups, you don’t see gay people complaining about their “agenda” and demanding to be represented with rainbow flags on the cups.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Wanted to see the discussion that would develop over a watch face.

Thread did not disappoint.

 

[tshrimp]

I'm saying pride is an emotional response to achievement. The achievement spawning straight pride is _____________?

You keep answering my question with a question. The good old answer a question with a question routine. So I will ask again..are you against a Straight Pride Parade? Do you have a double standard?

 

[Fugabutacus]

You keep answering my question with a question. The good old answer a question with a question routine. So I will ask again..are you against a Straight Pride Parade? Do you have a double standard?

I don't know if I'm for or against it if I don't know the reasons it's happening. What is the basis? The achievement spawning straight pride is _____________?

 

[WarHeadz]

You keep answering my question with a question. The good old answer a question with a question routine. So I will ask again..are you against a Straight Pride Parade? Do you have a double standard?

It’s such an absurdity that it’s difficult to take the question seriously. Nobody would be against it, but it wouldn’t happen because it’s pointless.
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Wanted to see the discussion that would develop over a watch face.

Thread did not disappoint.

Yep. This thread demonstrates exactly why Apple felt the need to create this watch face. Point proven!

 

[tshrimp]

I don't know if I'm for or against it if I don't know the reasons it's happening. What is the basis? The achievement spawning straight pride is _____________?

Looks like you have a double standard. If you are not straight why would you care the reason? Let us have our parade and be happy. After all a straight man was the first person on the moon, the first president of the United States, the inventor of the airplane. And even the sexual orientation of the man who helped to free the slaves.

I know you will attempt to discredit anything I post as you have a noticed double standard, as many do. They like to support their group, but not someone elses. I can see you want your parade, but want to deny others theirs. Why in the world do you even care why they would want to have it?
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It’s such an absurdity that it’s difficult to take the question seriously. Nobody would be against it, but it wouldn’t happen because it’s pointless.
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Yep. This thread demonstrates exactly why Apple felt the need to create this watch face. Point proven!

I am just trying to prove a point. I don't think there should be a Straight Pride Parade. Although, if they want it, more power to them. However, why this person would fight against it does show a double standard. My response has a precursor of someone elses post, who actually brought it up.

 

[Fugabutacus]

Looks like you have a double standard. If you are not straight why would you care the reason? Let us have our parade and be happy. After all a straight man was the first person on the moon, the first president of the United States, the inventor of the airplane. And even the sexual orientation of the man who helped to free the slaves.

I know you will attempt to discredit anything I post as you have a noticed double standard, as many do. They like to support their group, but not someone elses. I can see you want your parade, but want to deny others theirs. Why in the world do you even care why they would want to have it?

What is my double standard? I have consistently supported celebrations of pride among groups of people who have faced a collective adversity and made steps to overcome them.

Gay pride fits this, so I support it. I'm not as well-informed on the background behind a potential straight pride, and I'm asking you to help me see how it fits this definition.

You've dodged my question twice now. I suspect you don't have an answer and it doesn't fit that definition at all.

 

[tshrimp]

What is my double standard? I have consistently supported celebrations of pride among groups of people who have faced a collective adversity and made steps to overcome them.

Gay pride fits this, so I support it. I'm not as well-informed on the background behind a potential straight pride, and I'm asking you to help me see how it fits this definition.

You've dodged my question twice now. I suspect you don't have an answer and it doesn't fit that definition at all.

How did I dodge your question? I asked you a question first which you did not answer, but with a question back to me. However, to answer your question AGAIN....I stated...

"After all a straight man was the first person on the moon, the first president of the United States, the inventor of the airplane. And even the sexual orientation of the man who helped to free the slaves."

BTW..in reality I do not think there should be a Straight Pride Parade (Although I have nothing against it if they want to). I was just noting your double standard I noticed you had when conversing with another poster who brought this up.

But with the excuse you are using to deny a group their own parade, I guess you are against my towns annual Halloween Parade. Or the Harley-Davidson Parades you often see.

 

[Fugabutacus]

How did I dodge your question? I asked you a question first which you did not answer, but with a question back to me. However, to answer your question AGAIN....I stated...

"After all a straight man was the first person on the moon, the first president of the United States, the inventor of the airplane. And even the sexual orientation of the man who helped to free the slaves."

BTW..in reality I do not think there should be a Straight Pride Parade (Although I have nothing against it if they want to). I was just noting your double standard I noticed you had when conversing with another poster who brought this up.

But with the excuse you are using to deny a group their own parade, I guess you are against my towns annual Halloween Parade. Or the Harley-Davidson Parades you often see.

None of those are examples of what I asked for. Was there some kind of ban against heterosexual people joining the space program? Were early presidential candidates exclusively gay? Not a single one of those examples faced any kind of adversity caused by their heterosexuality, and hence it doesn't justify any sense of pride in their heterosexuality.

Let me clarify, in case you are genuinely interesting in constructive debate on this: I'm asking for you to tell me at least one example of adversity faced by the majority of heterosexual people, caused specifically by their heterosexuality, that heterosexuals, as a collective, have since taken steps to overcome.

 

[tshrimp]

None of those are examples of what I asked for. Was there some kind of ban against heterosexual people joining the space program? Were early presidential candidates exclusively gay? Not a single one of those examples faced any kind of adversity caused by their heterosexuality, and hence it doesn't justify any sense of pride in their heterosexuality.

Let me clarify, in case you are genuinely interesting in constructive debate on this: I'm asking for you to tell me at least one example of adversity faced by the majority of heterosexual people, caused specifically by their heterosexuality, that heterosexuals, as a collective, have since taken steps to overcome.

Deleted my long response as I can tell this is going nowhere...

But will just say...If you think Lincoln, Armstrong, and the Wright Brothers did not face adversity then I would recommend going back and read up on these people. Also, if you think a parade needs a cause that overcame adversity, then you have a lot of work ahead of you fighting to get rid of many fun parades that already exist. I see your double standard, even if you do not. Have your parade, and let other have theirs if they want to. It is all good

 

[Fugabutacus]

If you think Lincoln, Armstrong, and the Wright Brothers did not face adversity then I would recommend going back and read up on these people.

What part of the adversities they faced, specifically, were caused by their heterosexuality?

Also, if you think a parade needs a cause that overcame adversity, then you have a lot of work ahead of you fighting to get rid of many fun parades that already exist. I see your double standard, even if you do not.

We're talking about pride parades.

Now, are you going to answer the question properly this time, or do we assume that you can't and disregard your nonsensical argument entirely?
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Deleted my long response as I can tell this is going nowhere...

But will just say...If you think Lincoln, Armstrong, and the Wright Brothers did not face adversity then I would recommend going back and read up on these people. Also, if you think a parade needs a cause that overcame adversity, then you have a lot of work ahead of you fighting to get rid of many fun parades that already exist. I see your double standard, even if you do not. Have your parade, and let other have theirs if they want to. It is all good

And if you still care to answer, I'd still like this "double standard" explained to me because you mention it in every reply, but you've still not been able to put into words why exactly I have a double standard. Do tell.

 

[Sefstah]

Why on earth would someone not want his kids to see a couple share love, hold hands, being nice to each other, no matter what gender both are? This is pure hate. I just don't get it. I feel like I am colourblind and can't see a specific colour that those hateful people see... LOL

Never once was hate mentioned but you brought it up twice. If someone disagrees with your beliefs, it ends right there. No need to assume hate or anything else to try and justify it. That’s the real problem we face today.

 

[AlexGraphicD]

The “risks” you describe apply to heterosexuals too, so I guess they should stop having sexual activity too.

Obviously he hasn’t heard of condoms and Prep. But most people are ignorant to all of that. Only when two guys are holding hands or kissing is when straight people get pissed.

Buy even condoms don’t offer 100% protection in that area. And again, besides diseases there is the risk of physical tear and damage.

“Making sex exclusively in the anus area”. I think it’s remarkable that you believe that all gay men have anal sex, first of all, which is not the case. It is an even more baffling statement when we then consider that there are straight couples who have anal sex constantly and gay couples who never do. Ignorance continues to follow gay people around, so if you have a problem with pride flags or anything else, understand that you are the very reason these symbols are needed.

Well, I’m talking about the majority and the most common form of sexual activity between gays. But maybe I’m wrong on that.

 

[-BigMac-]

What part of the adversities they faced, specifically, were caused by their heterosexuality?



We're talking about pride parades.

Now, are you going to answer the question properly this time, or do we assume that you can't and disregard your nonsensical argument entirely?
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And if you still care to answer, I'd still like this "double standard" explained to me because you mention it in every reply, but you've still not been able to put into words why exactly I have a double standard. Do tell.

He has explained several times exactly why he believes there can be heterosexual parades, and given examples of why heterosexuals have reason to celebrate.

You’re just going around in circles adjusting your question, as everything you had asked has been answered - which you cant have - so you adjust your question further. Lol

Heterosexuals can have their own parades - according to you - as there has been sufficient answers to your prerequisite conditions for a group to be able to have a parade and pride in their own achievements.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

He has explained several times exactly why he believes there can be heterosexual parades, and given examples of why heterosexuals have reason to celebrate.

You’re just going around in circles adjusting your question, as everything you had asked has been answered - which you cant have - so you adjust your question further. Lol

Heterosexuals can have their own parades - according to you - as there has been sufficient answers to your prerequisite conditions for a group to be able to have a parade and pride in their own achievements.

I’ve just read that discussion between them and he didn’t answer the question at all. He gave a list of people who we presume are heterosexual and suggested their sexual orientation should be celebrated because of what they achieved in their professions. I don’t know about you but my job is totally irrelevant to my sexuality.

I don’t think anybody would stop a straight pride event but the purpose of one is mostly pointless as heterosexuals are a universally accepted group. If I walk down the street holding hands with my wife it’s highly unlikely I’d get attacked for doing so yet gay people still face a backlash in certain areas of society. Just look at the homophobia on this thread and people denying gay pride events should be recognised.

There’s a long way to go before these old fashioned homophobic views disappear and this is the very reason a private company like Apple support this cause.

 

[sean000]

The idea of a heterosexual pride parade is offensive for the same reason a parade celebrating whiteness is offensive. In both cases the intent is to stage a counter-parade so people who are homophobic or racist can hide behind the insincere excuse of, “if you can be proud, why can’t I?” The real motivation of such a counter parade would have little to do with celebrating the contributions of heterosexuality or whiteness, and everybody knows it.

But hey... if you’re going to stage a pride parade for heterosexual cisgender folks, I have one request: Please allow LGBTQ participants and guests who wish to celebrate in solidarity, and make them feel as welcome as I have felt attending gay pride events over the years as a straight man. I doubt that will be possible though, because the type of heterosexual people who would typically attend a heterosexual pride parade are going to be too homophobic to allow it.