Although I won't ge getting a new phone this year, that black chunk bitten out of the screen aptly referred to as "the notch" is atrocious. I would never be able to ignore it's hideousness. What a bad design choice. Horrible.
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ralpa
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I doubt that when their guidelines to developers is basically to embrace the notch (do not hide it.)
Ralfi
macrumors 601
Wonder why in the left landscape comparison the X screen fills all the way to the right, yet in the other (Macrumours) it doesn't?
It should always fill all the way to the right when in landscape.
On second glance, maybe it doesn't fill the right edge in the Macrumours comparison either?...😕
According to the Apple HCI guide for developers, and as discussed already in this thread, the iPhone X has auto layout and margins included in landscape. Which means that content will never/should not fill the far left or far right when viewed in landscape. Background content however "may" fill out to the edges/bezels but this is up to the developer to implement. (An example of this can be seen between viewing different websites in safari)
The end result, the iPhone 8/8+ have physical bezels, the iPhone X has OLED bezels.
dlewis23
macrumors 65816
This is actually incorrect. While the phone uses 375 pt but at an @3x scale not the @2x scale of the 4.7" iPhone, the iPhone X is actually physically wider by 3.6mm. So the phone's display is wider so things will be a bit bigger compared to the 4.7" iPhone.
here's a guide showing this in detail:
https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions
https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions
roeiz
macrumors 65816
i wonder what differences our eyes actually see between the downsampled pixels on the + model VS. the X which doesn't downsample.
The X is much smaller than the plus, but the real estate is comparable. The X is basically the same size as the 8, but it has much more real estate. From a screen perspective I don't understand how there is even a conversation. Bring price into the equation and I get it. The X is more expensive. Yes people have a problem with the notch. That mystifies me, but differences in opinion are interesting. The plus remains a HUGE phone. But I have to acknowledge that so many people don't seem to mind. My son doesn't understand why I value the smallest possible form factor. Maybe it's because I remember being blown away by the StarTac phone. I am in the camp that would prefer an SE sized phone with X design. That would be perfection (for me).
But, screen real estate relative to device size... the X clearly has the advantage.
But, screen real estate relative to device size... the X clearly has the advantage.
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Yeah maybe, but the X is MUCH smaller.
Too each their own. 🙂
One just needs to embrace the notch. I know, not a small feat. Possible perhaps though...maybe
Too each their own. 🙂
One just needs to embrace the notch. I know, not a small feat. Possible perhaps though...maybe
Is there any info on the physical dimension of the X screen, as in mm x mm size? I know they have rounded corner, but looking at comparing it this way over a plus iPhone.
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PBz
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The.Glorious.Son
macrumors 68000
When you suggest that screen real estate of the X is comparable to the 8 Plus, I am curious, did you look at the screenshots in the very beginning of this thread? It is not comparable at all. The X is relatively an elongated 4.7" device that has ears at the top surrounding the notch. It is not nearly as wide as the 8 Plus. I totally understand the desire for an overall smaller device. I was craving the X to come out until I saw what the viewing experience will be. In landscape, because of the screen ratio, videos by default will be letter-boxed on a wider, and much less heightened screen. On the plus, that video will fill the entire 5.5" screen. If you choose to zoom on the X, you are now watching video that is hidden behind that notch and potentially cropped. I imagine most don't use safari in landscape, but have you seen how the each side of the content is letter-boxed with white wasted space? And how the home bar in instances actually blocks out text? The home bar is also capable of doing that in portrait use as well.
I imagine if someone is coming from an SE or a 4.7" phone, these things won't matter as much. But to suggest the real estate is comparable to the Plus model simply would not be accurate. The proof is in the screen shots (not the ones where the X is compared to the regular 8).
roeiz
macrumors 65816
I certainly get that. I am a home theater aficionado and understand resolutions. If serious video watching is important, that makes sense. I don't do serious video watching on an iPhone. I haven't done that since the iPad came out. I only watch stupid short videos on facebook or attachments or videos I film on the iPhone. Any serious mobile viewing is on my iPad. I can see the greater concern with this is mind. The 8+ may be better suited for someone who uses it as a small iPad.
KittyKatta
macrumors 65816
It does feel like the X is Apples experiment on testing the limits of its userbase
- Fixing "problems" that were never considered problems (TouchID)
- Using gimmicks as selling points (Animoji)
- Intentionally hording features (dual OIS on X only?!?)
- Raising device prices to test consumer acceptance
As a product then I can see the appeal of the X. A larger screen in a smaller frame is great. But, in thinking of how logically the Button and Screen iPhone has evolved in the last decade then.... maybe this new modern revision is unnecessary because Apple got it right the first time.
I never understand this. Sure taller shows more vertical lines on the screen at once but the narrower screens means either smaller text/pictures or less of each per line, negating the height advantage in my opinion.
Don’t get wrong, I wish the Plus was slightly narrower and easier to hold but the 8 and X just seem too narrow if you are used to the experience of the Plus.
The X will not have the same experience as the Plus and an experience closer to the 8 than the Plus. Some will like, some won’t. How much this is negated by a “better” display remains to be seen.
You are not alone, but the current Go Bigger fad is still in play. I could deal with 4.2 or a touch over the 5S. If they packed what was basically a 6S into the SE, why not top out a smaller handset?
Do they really think it wouldn't sell like crazy?
Gigantic phones have to come out of style at some point. The fact that the top model is NOT the largest is a nice step in that direction. Just a bit less please 😉
The.Glorious.Son
macrumors 68000
I totally see your point. I store all of personal videos I’ve taken of my daughter, pets, concerts, etc. on my phone and sometimes go on a YouTube binge. So it basically has become my phone/tablet of sorts. Had I not gotten used to this screen, I think I most certainly would have gone X in order to have a new design and all of the bells and whistles. It will be interesting to see what choices we are given come next fall (good grief I cannot possibly be thinking about the next release already).
This might give you a bit of an idea only it's in 16:9, I got screen measurements and took a picture and then screen shot, just wanted to see what video would be like in 16:9 compared to a plus, if you have a plus zoom picture to outside line
they already had experience with 3 of those thanks to the Plus models... and apparently it worked well 😉
- gimmicks: bokeh/portrait mode
- hording features: first OIS, then dualcam
- higher price, also a plus "feature" 😉
The notch generally looks like garbage in landscape, but it works in portrait. At least for me, I mostly use my phone in portrait so this isn't bad. I'd like to see them slim it down, though.
I like how the curves at each corner open up a more interesting canvas to work with, interface and aesthetics-wise. Hopefully Apple can take good advantage of this, it's definitely the part of the design with most potential.
I like how the curves at each corner open up a more interesting canvas to work with, interface and aesthetics-wise. Hopefully Apple can take good advantage of this, it's definitely the part of the design with most potential.