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Concerns of iPhone 3GS Overheating and Discoloration Gaining Publicity
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One good thing that comes out of this is that if the problem becomes well publicised, rightly or wrongly, it brings pressure on Apple to officially address the issue, either to clarify that it is a limited problem or that something needs to be done. Some sort of acknowledgment of the issue would be a start, although previous cases of product defects has shown mixed results from Apple (sometimes addressed, other times ignored).
Overheating is mainly due to the inefficient of the PA Chip
I am not surprised to hear the iPhone is suffer with overheating problem. This is mainly cause by the high data rate service it supports (GPS, TV, Internet, 3G, Skype etc). The amplifier chip inside the iPhone suffer the most due to more than 70% of the battery power is dissipated as heat.(battery life can be very short as well). For such a small phone like iPhone, Apple really need to pay attention to this problem. I do believe the worse to come when LTE is coming into service(4G or 3.5G). I understand apple only got into the handset market for a very short period of time compare with some big player like Nokia etc. However, overheating can be very dangerous in some cases.
I am not surprised to hear the iPhone is suffer with overheating problem. This is mainly cause by the high data rate service it supports (GPS, TV, Internet, 3G, Skype etc). The amplifier chip inside the iPhone suffer the most due to more than 70% of the battery power is dissipated as heat.(battery life can be very short as well). For such a small phone like iPhone, Apple really need to pay attention to this problem. I do believe the worse to come when LTE is coming into service(4G or 3.5G). I understand apple only got into the handset market for a very short period of time compare with some big player like Nokia etc. However, overheating can be very dangerous in some cases.
Its times like this that I feel good for not being an early adopter anymore.I'll just wait a while until they fix the problem before I upgrade.. wahoo!
How is this early adoption? This is the 3rd year for the iPhone. I got my 32GB 3GS black iphone on Day 1 and have no regrets and NO heat problems whatsoever. It works perfectly. Plus I got my wife one and there's no heat problems as well.
If you call the third generation of a product "early adoption", then people would never buy anything. Always would be waiting...
It was Hot Yesterday and I had my Camera App open for most of the day, before my iPhone did get hot... but not as hot as it does now.. Thought it was just the Heat. Doesn't bother me though!
I'm sure they'll fix it.
I'm sure they'll fix it.
Another reason to wait until 2010.
There's always a reason to wait. Meanwhile, everyone has been playing with cool toys!
And do you think there won't be any problems next year? Trust me, there will. Will Apple fix the issues like they have consistently done in the past? Yup...
Overheating is not a simple problem to fix. Otherwise apple will fix it at first place. Overheating can easily damage some of the components in handset. Sometimes could be very serious. It is still a early stage (the phone is only on the market for few weeks). This problem will soon become reliability issue. I suggest Apple use the more efficient PA chip or some chip to help PA work in a more efficient way. Otherwise, iPhone brand could be serious damaged in a long run.
Heavy Usage
Does anyone use their 3Gs extensivley through the day and not suffer issues.
I'd want one but would expect heavy phone use, Tom Tom would be running most often (when available ) and of course some tunes will be playing from time to time.
Put my mind at rest - please
Does anyone use their 3Gs extensivley through the day and not suffer issues.
I'd want one but would expect heavy phone use, Tom Tom would be running most often (when available ) and of course some tunes will be playing from time to time.
Put my mind at rest - please
Apple's website updated with iPhone heat tips...
Don't use the phone on a sunny, cloudy, rainy or snowy day.
Don't leave the phone in a car, bus, train or penny farthing.
Don't give your iPhone to a member of the Nottinghamshire Police force.
Don't charge your phone or use it if there is a microwave nearby.
Don't use more than one application at a time if your head is under the pillow.
Don't plug in the charger for more than 20 seconds.
Do consult the Apple Support Pages, where we will endeavour to give you obvious advice and tips but ultimately refuse to admit any liability whatsoever...
Don't use the phone on a sunny, cloudy, rainy or snowy day.
Don't leave the phone in a car, bus, train or penny farthing.
Don't give your iPhone to a member of the Nottinghamshire Police force.
Don't charge your phone or use it if there is a microwave nearby.
Don't use more than one application at a time if your head is under the pillow.
Don't plug in the charger for more than 20 seconds.
Do consult the Apple Support Pages, where we will endeavour to give you obvious advice and tips but ultimately refuse to admit any liability whatsoever...
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i'd like to see more evidence of this being a problem before freaking out... it COULD just be a few isolated incidents... we'll see in a few weeks, i guess.
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Perhaps in this context cool is not the correct word.
Anyway, I am quite OK with waiting for 2010
Overheating? Didn't look like it to me.
Having worked in electronics and having to repair all kinds of screwy problems in nearly every brand out there, the discoloration on the pictured iPhone simply doesn't look right. It doesn't look like heat discoloration, but rather, stains from either makeup or perhaps hand lotion, that somebody tried to wipe off.
On the other hand, how many people spend 15, 20, 45 minutes on a cell phone call? Pretty much everyone, right? How many of you have noticed that no matter what brand of phone you have, it gets hot the longer you maintain the call. Honestly, my ear used to sweat when using a simple, everyday single-purpose cell phone. My iPhone doesn't get any hotter than the cell phone did.
Yes, you can screw any piece of equipment over by abusing it. But under normal, intermittent use, you shouldn't have any problems.
I say 'Bunk' to this discoloration. I don't believe it. It doesn't look right, it doesn't sound right, it isn't true. Now, if a significant percentage of new users make the same claim, I may change my mind. For now, the statistical sampling is just too small to show a trend.
Having worked in electronics and having to repair all kinds of screwy problems in nearly every brand out there, the discoloration on the pictured iPhone simply doesn't look right. It doesn't look like heat discoloration, but rather, stains from either makeup or perhaps hand lotion, that somebody tried to wipe off.
On the other hand, how many people spend 15, 20, 45 minutes on a cell phone call? Pretty much everyone, right? How many of you have noticed that no matter what brand of phone you have, it gets hot the longer you maintain the call. Honestly, my ear used to sweat when using a simple, everyday single-purpose cell phone. My iPhone doesn't get any hotter than the cell phone did.
Yes, you can screw any piece of equipment over by abusing it. But under normal, intermittent use, you shouldn't have any problems.
I say 'Bunk' to this discoloration. I don't believe it. It doesn't look right, it doesn't sound right, it isn't true. Now, if a significant percentage of new users make the same claim, I may change my mind. For now, the statistical sampling is just too small to show a trend.
Apple really don't seem to do any sort of quality control/testing on anything they release these days.
If it's not laptops over heating, or with screen defects, it's their bloody phones
Seriously, they need to get this under control.
Have you read the actual support advisory?
>"Operate iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS in a place where the temperature is between 0º and 35º C (32º to 95º F). Low- or high-temperature conditions might temporarily shorten battery life or cause the device to temporarily stop working properly.
95°F (35°C) is quite warm. I happen to know that are a lot of electronic products that recommend lower temperatures; including cell phones.
>Store iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS in a place where the temperature is between -20º and 45º C (-4º to 113º F). Dont leave the device in your car, because temperatures in parked cars can exceed this range.
This seems eminently sensible. There is almost no electronic device, not even CDs, that recommend leaving in a hot car or in direct sunlight. The fact that they suggest keeping the phone cooler and in shade also takes some of the stress off of the battery. Or haven't you noticed that battery-powered devices tend to drain their battery faster in high temperatures? Even cell phones.
Kids, this isn't a one-shot concept. Nearly every portable device you own says essentially the same thing. Just look at your users' manuals.
Anyone else spot the irony of the one and only website with any images of a discolored iPhone?
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Fuxxing hilarious.
I have a 32GB white iPhone 3GS and in the name of science I ran the following, back to back.
1 Hour video recording
Played field runners for 45 mins
Played Zombieville for 35ish mins
All in my non air conditioned office which was roasting (29c on my wall thermometer).
The iPhone? It was warm, but no warmer that my Sony Ericsson gets after a 30 minute call. Most of the heat was at the camera during recording. There were no changes in performance and no errors.
The testing conditions were unusual though. I live in Scotland and it really doesn't ever get that hot here.
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Fuxxing hilarious.
I have a 32GB white iPhone 3GS and in the name of science I ran the following, back to back.
1 Hour video recording
Played field runners for 45 mins
Played Zombieville for 35ish mins
All in my non air conditioned office which was roasting (29c on my wall thermometer).
The iPhone? It was warm, but no warmer that my Sony Ericsson gets after a 30 minute call. Most of the heat was at the camera during recording. There were no changes in performance and no errors.
The testing conditions were unusual though. I live in Scotland and it really doesn't ever get that hot here.
Perhaps in this context cool is not the correct word.
Anyway, I am quite OK with waiting for 2010
LOL. Touche. To be honest, I kept my 1st gen iPhone and didn't get the 3G because AT&T's 3G network was supposedly so terrible. And it seems like for the first few months of the 3G release, there was A LOT of complaining about the speed of the network. Since then, I think AT&T has shored it up. So I went for the 3GS. So, I can totally see the merit in waiting depending on the situation. Here I had less trouble upgrading because a) I still had 1st gen; b) network is pretty fast now; and c) there are some pretty useful new features (there weren't any really new features in the 3G vs 1st gen other than faster network speed -- again, the network took a few months to get up to par). Honestly, the faster processor in the 3GS is pretty impressive -- it makes the entire experience much, much more efficient.
The only time my 3G S has gotten slightly warm was when I was downloading music from iTunes via 3G. I just don't see this as a problem for the average user.
Who cares....first of all of you got a year warranty if its defective send it back to Apple or Apple geniuses. Big deal get used to it, its Apple for **** sake they make it right after 3rd or 4th iteration.I don't know what the fuss is all about i am using 3GS by the way. Its freaking warm when i played Galactic, other then that its all good! It's Apple push the limit of hardware with all seriousness get used to it!
You missed the point. The only time when iPhone get very hot is when you using the transmitter and receiver on the phone. Phone call, video call, download, etc. Overheating is the problem for almost every 3G phone. The reason why iPhone is standing out is because the size of it and how the designer handle the heat dissipation.
From reading all the posts some have this problem while others don't. It sounds like Apple has a bad supplier who did not supply a component to the right specs.
I have a hard time believing that Apple didn't do their diligence in testing different scenarios like operating the phone at higher room temperature for a prolong period of time and with the transmitter continuously on.
I presume none of these issues were seen with the components they used which leads me to believe that one of the suppliers is providing Apple a part that's not up to specifications.
Isn't that where most of the problems originate? The supplier trying to cut cost by providing a lower standard component.
P.S. I think one of the suppliers is mixing iphone clone parts for the real thing. I heard these suppliers also produce the parts for iphone clones that's out there.
I have a hard time believing that Apple didn't do their diligence in testing different scenarios like operating the phone at higher room temperature for a prolong period of time and with the transmitter continuously on.
I presume none of these issues were seen with the components they used which leads me to believe that one of the suppliers is providing Apple a part that's not up to specifications.
Isn't that where most of the problems originate? The supplier trying to cut cost by providing a lower standard component.
P.S. I think one of the suppliers is mixing iphone clone parts for the real thing. I heard these suppliers also produce the parts for iphone clones that's out there.
Just more FUD for shorters.
This is all FUD. Just go to Apple 3GS Hardware Support Forum and read.
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1333
This is all FUD. Just go to Apple 3GS Hardware Support Forum and read.
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1333