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I think these are isolated incidents, just as a dead pixel or loose button would be. These things happen and that is why we have a warranty.

If, however, I am wrong, and there is a fault with all of the 3GS then surely a software update could address this by changing how the hardware is used?
 
I think these are isolated incidents, just as a dead pixel or loose button would be. These things happen and that is why we have a warranty.

If, however, I am wrong, and there is a fault with all of the 3GS then surely a software update could address this by changing how the hardware is used?

Well, the only thing they would be able to do is adjust processing speed or transmitting power or whatever causes the overheating. Whatever they would do, it would make the iPhone slower, have worse reception etc, and then you would have another group of users complaining. There are unfortunately no fans that could kick in a little bit sooner with an update.

Of course it is. This kind of thing happens every time Apple rolls out a new iPhone or iPod Touch.

I agree. The point here (IMO) is that Apple is just so visible when they release a new product that any defect that affects only a few % of all users gets a proportionate amount of publicity.

I'm 100% sure that products of the competition fall apart or have problems at least as often, but this just doesn't get publicized so much.

I already heard some mentions about the build quality of the Pre. Nokia phones are crap compared to the stuff they built 5 years ago. And don't even get me started on the average DVD player or TV.

My iPhone 3G is in better condition than any other phone I have owned for a year. I dropped it twice on the street and it only has a scratch on the back. IMO this thing is rock solid.
 
Compare that to the Palm Pre webOS Support Forum and see what real trouble is.

Ouch! That's pretty brutal. I agree with you -- it's interesting that we're not hearing much about this, especially since it's not an isolated case. The more I look at the Pre, the more it appears to be cheaply made. That home button looks especially vulnerable.

After a year of use, I'm impressed with the durability and versatility of my iPhone.
 
You missed the point. The only time when iPhone get very hot is when you using the transmitter and receiver on the phone. Phone call, video call, download, etc. Overheating is the problem for almost every 3G phone. The reason why iPhone is standing out is because the size of it and how the designer handle the heat dissipation.

I make over 20 hours of calls per month and receive many hours of calls. I just finished a support call which took over 1.5 hours and the iPhone is barely even warm. I discounted calls making the phone hot for this very reason and used the video camera and gaming to test due to reports of the video camera and gaming causing overheating.

On wednesday I used the GPS on the iphone on a 2 hr journey and the iPhone, again was just warm. It was also on charge the whole time which, if anything, should have made it hotter.

As you can see by my sig I have now had all 3 models of iPhone and trust me the 2G was hotter in use than either the 3G or 3GS.
 
Does anyone remember when Hillary said we need a company like Apple to design the next generation cars. If they can produce something like iPod imagine what they can do with automobiles.

If they hired Apple to design the future cars wonder whether the white cars would have overheated. :rolleyes:

Politicians crack me up!!!
 
"GPS tracking in a car on a sunny day"

So no SatNav in California, for example.

Lame, Apple. Very lame.

They rushed it out again.

Yeah like Normal stuff you'd expect a $300 phone to do. How soon till we find out this thing is leaking harmful radiation?
 

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Yeah like Normal stuff you'd expect a $300 phone to do. How soon till we find out this thing is leaking harmful radiation?

The phone should do what it's advertised to do. It's advertised to do turn by turn GPS. It turns out Apple are now recommending you don't do that.

If there were no problem, the there would be comments in this forum about it, there wouldn't be an acknowledgement by apple, there wouldn't be an 'your iPhone has over heated' screen for people to have screen grabbed.

The problem is clearly real, and is another symptom of Apple putting form before function.

Sadly - the Apple-zombies keep forming queues to buy this stuff and let them get away with it!
 
Apple better fix these problems soon. I hear Android is making a comeback from multiple fronts next year.

Yeah, thats google crome on Android :)

HTC
http://www.talkandroid.com/android-forums/android-hardware/341-t-mobile-g2-phone.html

Motorola
http://phandroid.com/2009/04/29/motorola-android-phone-calgary-headed-to-verizon/

The G2 HTC is already available in New Zealand. Android is still pretty crappy.
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/htcmagic/htc-magic-black.jsp

Take those pictures and throw them out the window. A trained eye can tell that a lot of it is photoshopped.

EDIT: They specifically say its photoshopped. XD The Vodafone Link is what the G2 will bring about.
 
Motorola Android

First image - Motorola Flash
Very promising. It's got potential.

Second image - Motorola Rush 2
Late in the game, boy do I hate RED

Third image - Motorola Calgary
Interesting

Fourth image - Motorola Inferno
cheap mass phones
 

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Very promising. It's got potential.

Second image - Motorola Rush 2
Late in the game, boy do I hate RED

Third image - Motorola Calgary
Interesting

Fourth image - Motorola Inferno
cheap mass phones

They'll Be Crippled by Verizon. Want tethering..? Pay an extra $20 Want Bluetooth..? $10.
 
Folks can go on and on about Apple hardware superiority until they are blue in the face (and many of them do), but the fact is that I cannot think of any other manufacturers that have had so many recalcitrant thermal issues as has Apple.

They try to cram as much into a "thin and light" package as possible ... and while the outcome is indeed quite beautiful to the eye ... the problem is that they don't "just work"©

The emphasis is on form and specs, but there is little emphasis on whether the devices can take advantage of those specs.

More and more, high-end Apple devices are becoming more works of art to look at, but not touch.

This is why, for example, most other laptops are made heavier and bulkier.

While they are ugly, and they take up more room in your laptop bag, they tend to chug along without pushing the thermal envelope nearly as much.

"Thin and light" is only good if you can use what is in the "thin and light" package at 100% power in perpetuity.

With Apple, this is often not the case.

The 2.8Ghz chip is great, as long as you keep CPU usage below 50%, or only use short bursts at 100%.

After all, this is how "most people use laptops".©

Think different.
 
Umm, but this is for white iPhones only... so I won't mind. I'm going to get a black.

forget it .. I got a black one 32G ... afther 2 days it already showed grey stripes on the back and killed 2 SIMcards by overheating .
The worst part of it all is tha we here in Belgium we pay about € 700 or $995 for the 32GB iphone ... and if we bring it in to change or repair ,because of malfunction ...you have to wait about 4 to 6 weeks before you get it back . or get a new one.... how about that ? :mad:
 
Dude, thats HTC Magic
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx

G2 has taller screen in comparison to G1 models.

Misinformed you are:
http://gizmodo.com/5293340/t+mobile...le-g2-htc-magic-google-ion-coming-this-summer
http://google.about.com/b/2009/06/22/the-g2-t-mobile-announces-mytouch-3g.htm
http://phandroid.com/2009/05/08/t-mobile-g2-mytouch-coming-to-usa-in-july-via-walmart-with-icing/

MyTouch3G = T-Mobile G2 = HTC Magic, Except in America you get a 5MP camera apparently.

Plus a PC world review shows that the manual refers to G2, Magazine not the Website. Ill scan it in tomorrow.

Those images are photoshops, easily identifiable. Look at the Buttons. The bigger screen was a lie.
 
Folks can go on and on about Apple hardware superiority until they are blue in the face (and many of them do), but the fact is that I cannot think of any other manufacturers that have had so many recalcitrant thermal issues as has Apple.

They try to cram as much into a "thin and light" package as possible ... and while the outcome is indeed quite beautiful to the eye ... the problem is that they don't "just work"©

The emphasis is on form and specs, but there is little emphasis on whether the devices can take advantage of those specs.

More and more, high-end Apple devices are becoming more works of art to look at, but not touch.

This is why, for example, most other laptops are made heavier and bulkier.

While they are ugly, and they take up more room in your laptop bag, they tend to chug along without pushing the thermal envelope nearly as much.

"Thin and light" is only good if you can use what is in the "thin and light" package at 100% power in perpetuity.

With Apple, this is often not the case.

The 2.8Ghz chip is great, as long as you keep CPU usage below 50%, or only use short bursts at 100%.

After all, this is how "most people use laptops".©

Think different.

You're definitely right about cramming everything in there.

iPhone: 4.5 inch
htc: 4.60 inch
(height)
 

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I could care less if the case is turning red, as long as it isn't affecting iPhone performance...

This is why Apple users get a lot of crap products.

Apple knows you will accept them, and give them a pass -- come what may.

This is why you get downgraded "upgraded" iMacs, and it is why you do not have A2DP and are only now getting features that competitor phones have had for years.

As re-assured by the community that the Apple user is that they are somehow superior, the fact is that you pay more for less, accept faults with a smile ... which only ensures that you will continue to pay more for less and get more faulty products

While Apple users fancy themselves as being more discriminating, the fact is -- they are among the least discriminating consumers on the planet.

This, in turn, leads to higher profit margins.

Let's face it, there is not a PC manufacturer on the planet that could sell a $2,500 laptop with a Core 2 Duo and a 9600M GT.

As "dumb" as PC users are, they don't shell out the cash unless the specs warrant it, and they actually complain about the various companies, Dell, HP, etc.

Given that probably half of Apple users are willing to accept defective merchandise, the stereotype of the self-assured Mac users is becoming increasingly view as a community of users with terribly low self-esteem who spend a disproportionate amount of time rationalizing the faults of the for-profit company that in many respects -- exploits them.
 
I dont know about you, but I dont put any of my electronic devices in direct sunlight. Who would leave their iPhone on the dash in a closed car in the middle of summer? Hopefully no one! As far as the TomTom mount goes, I would mount it high up the windshiled where it is safe from direct sunlight where that strip of windshield tint is. A little common sense will go a long way in keeping your iPhone (or any electronic device) healthy. :)
 
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