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I wonder how long till the people that are "dying for an iphone 2g now" will take to start complaining about data charges being expensive.

I hope you dont think that speeds are updated and the price remains the same.

I presume you mean 3g not 2g, but I'm pretty confident it won't cost more, here in the UK i KNOW it wont.
Why would it cost more? Unlimited data is exactly that....unlimited.....what difference does it make how quickly you got that data? The necessary equipment is already up and running for 3g, there is no extra cost to the carrier as far as I can see.
 
Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

you are ugly inside
 
:( am i really the only one who's sick of 3D iPhone rumors for WWDC? I mean, it's already got pretty obvious.
 
:( am i really the only one who's sick of 3D iPhone rumors for WWDC? I mean, it's already got pretty obvious.

Well you can only have gotten sick of it if you over indulged on it, no?
Simple solution would be to not come to this website, or the least the iphone section. Nobody forces you to click your mouse on this thread.

Oh, and......3D??? You can't have been reading that much on it aye.
 
So your current iPhone which you have paid in full for breaks down or gets stolen. Sorry, your going to have to get a new contract out to get a new one. Just doesn't work like that. I see where you are coming from with your argument, but looking at it like that it seems you could just get the new 3G iPhone and carry on with your contract after a soft activation.

Also the person I was talking to was someone who was actually very good for once. I agree with you totally to not trust what these people say. I talk to many of these people virtually all of whom are useless but this person was actually genuinely knowledgeable and helpful.

EDIT: Also your link is for the terms for general phones from O2. iPhone is no general phone thats for sure: The actual terms and conditions are here, have had a quick browse through so may have missed it but cannot see anything that ties you to the particular iPhone you have.

In that link TonyHoyle posted, there was a section called:

Pay Monthly tariff terms and conditions for iPhone

I guess that applies to us all too? Right?

Point 2 under the first section states:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you may be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term. This will not apply if your purchase a new iPhone from us, in which case you agree that a new 18 month minimum term will apply.

Then the link you posted appear to be the revised terms from Feb 08 which just state:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you will be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term.

So I guess it depends when you signed up. The Feb terms seem to leave things more open. Until the 3G iPhone appears, I guess we won't know how they intend to play it.
 
Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:
They just don't want the same thing that hapened earlier, when they had to pay for those that bought an iPhone and a week later there was a price drop.

They just let their stock black out, pass a month, and release a new iPhone, so that no one can complaint.
 
I concur. Current AT&T Data plan comparison:
iPhone (EDGE) = $20/month unlimited data
BlackJack II (3G) = $30/month unlimited data

If you look at their other data plans, they do not differentiate between 3G data and EDGE data. It's simply Data. You can't use the fact that the iPhone has a separately priced data plan as proof because as far as we know it's priced that way because it's the iPhone, not because it's EDGE.
 
Well you can only have gotten sick of it if you over indulged on it, no?
Simple solution would be to not come to this website, or the least the iphone section. Nobody forces you to click your mouse on this thread.

Oh, and......3D??? You can't have been reading that much on it aye.

Why do you feel the need to make personal criticisms?
Everyone has their own opinions on things, some opinions (such as yours) are best left in your head.

Maybe you should take note of your own advice :rolleyes:
 
Do you think it will be possible to buy an iPhone 3G at an Apple Store (after the launch) and activate it later on (or unlocking it!), just like before? If so, I guess it will still be a good deal for non-american travellers visiting the states to pick up an iPhone or two. I guess the price here in Sweden for an iPhone 3G will be quite high, at least initially.
 
Do you think it will be possible to buy an iPhone 3G at an Apple Store (after the launch) and activate it later on (or unlocking it!), just like before? If so, I guess it will still be a good deal for non-american travellers visiting the states to pick up an iPhone or two. I guess the price here in Sweden for an iPhone 3G will be quite high, at least initially.

I can say with 100% certainty, that no one can answer your question until the product is released.
 
Yeah, I'm really confused by the "zero sales" thing for almost an entire month. I was really expecting an announcement last or this week - I'm shocked they misjudged their stock this badly.

The didn't misjudge their stock.
100% intentional on a least two fronts.
1) avoid the backlash of people that might have purchased an iPhone days before the 3G launch and
2) look at the hype this is building. People, even current iPhone users, are nearly as excited as the first iPhone launch. This break in iPhone sales will be more than made up with massive, global sales. Just watch.
 
Im in the UK, i've got till October to the end of my 18 month contract with my NON iphone phone. Waiting till october will pretty much kill me (i finally buckled and now i want/need an iphone!) so how can i get hold of one? Will the v2.0 be hackable, will i have to resort to getting one from the states or another european country, or even Australia (if they do have unblocked iphones come june/july)? Or do i have to become O2 bitch and somehow blag one and sign up for another 18 month contract :)eek:)

Questions, Questions......

I'm in the same boat - contract runs out in October. I got another phone because I was disappointed with the spec of the original iPhone. This is what I've been waiting for.

Look on the bright side, though, October isn't that far away - the time will fly by. Worth waiting! :)
 
Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

Not true. A few years ago Apple went the whole summer without any iMacs available before a new model was launched in September. I think that's when they moved from the anglepoise iMac to the current style iMac.
 
For one, all Draft N access points are backwards compatible with A, B, and G devices, so you should still be able to connect a 802.11G iPhone to a Draft N access point.

Besides, for a device with this small a processor, the Wi-Fi connection is definitely not the limiting bottleneck. Would you really notice that your phone is getting a 55 Mbit/s connection and not 110 Mbit/s?

I know the APEXT Draft N can be set up to be backwards compatible.

You totally misunderstood what I said..... "an all N network". As in 5GHz.

I never said I wanted my iPhone to connect at N speeds. I know that most "broadband" speeds are even below the old "b" speeds.

You assumed that.

I want an all N network so that my Apple TV can pull from my APEXT LAN'd PowerMac G5 in my home office at N speeds. If someone connects to my backwards compatible network with an older b or g airport card then I lose all benefits of N speeds. Hence my request for the iPhone to have an N card in it so I can connect to my own home network or connect to anyone else's network no matter the letter designation.
 
Not true. A few years ago Apple went the whole summer without any iMacs available before a new model was launched in September. I think that's when they moved from the anglepoise iMac to the current style iMac.

yes, it has happened before. but it wasn't deliberate last time, was it?
 
Hope this is true, then I'll have a decent time plan to sell my iPod Touch and Nokia N95 8GB and hopefully get an iPhone, 32 GB, 5mp camera and 3G and everything will be finally on one device :)

Would be even better if the iPhone had a Xenon flash too, and the camera as good or better quality that the N95.

Getting excited.
 
Hope this is true, then I'll have a decent time plan to sell my iPod Touch and Nokia N95 8GB and hopefully get an iPhone, 32 GB, 5mp camera and 3G and everything will be finally on one device :)

Would be even better if the iPhone had a Xenon flash too, and the camera as good or better quality that the N95.

Getting excited.



I hope that the new iphone has all that stuff too. Especially 3G and 5mp camera.
 
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