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I am eagerly awaiting this new iPhone. .....

With the GPS your photos will have GPS coordinates imbedded in the metadata of your pictures. As you post them on you website Google will be able to index your photos, and everyone else's, and then pragmatically assemble all of the photos into one large panoramic view that will include the ability to extrapolate the 3D structure of builds, roads and any other landmark. People could then go to Google maps and "fly" through an area. All of this stitched together from everyone posting their pictures anywhere on the web.

My, that's quite an accurate GPS system you envision! In order to "pragmatically assemble" photos into a panoramic view, it'd need to know the precise location, angle of the camera, etc. Keep dreaming big, though!
 
Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!
In a sense I agree with you, but this could happen if they do not subsidize the iPhone. Also, it could be a subsidy only through At&t, and those that don't have At&t will not be using the iPhone for the most part.

Still, though, if the iPhone is $400 and $500, then with a $200 discount with a 2 year contract, it's still $200 and $300. That is still more than most people are willing to pay for a cell phone. I know some of my colleagues just got Blackberries for $1 or something after a rebate. The iPhone will never be this cheap.

Regardless of who else has one or will have one, I'm getting one.
 
I really hope the new iPhone supports HSDPA and not just WCDMA. It will probably be the latter though, seeing as they released a 2.5G phone when their competitors had been manufacturing 3G-phones for years. :(
 
I'd be much more likely to get a 3G iPhone if it's subsidised, as with the vast majority of phones in the UK mobile market. That's how it's always worked over here and in Europe from my recollection. Heck, I'd even be willing to pay £30 a month for a contract again if the price was around the £100 mark! (I can but hope :))
 
Waiting it Out

Hmm, lessons learned from previous releases...I think I'll be waiting until my Verizon contract is over before buying an 3G iPhone. I think by December, all the bugs will be worked out, and who knows, by then there may be an even bigger capacity iPhone! There's no prize for adopting early! I make fun of everyone that waited in line for the 4 gig iPhone, as well as those who can't do simple product research to know when the next model is coming out!

I'm not really mean, I just don't tolerate stupidity! :)
 
In that link TonyHoyle posted, there was a section called:

Pay Monthly tariff terms and conditions for iPhone

I guess that applies to us all too? Right?

Point 2 under the first section states:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you may be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term. This will not apply if your purchase a new iPhone from us, in which case you agree that a new 18 month minimum term will apply.

Then the link you posted appear to be the revised terms from Feb 08 which just state:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you will be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term.

So I guess it depends when you signed up. The Feb terms seem to leave things more open. Until the 3G iPhone appears, I guess we won't know how they intend to play it.

I signed up before February, but the change in terms and conditions applied to me as they can do that. With my change in tariff which gave we more minutes and text, they also changed my terms and conditions. Was emailed about it etc etc.

My straight argument about the whole thing is that the iPhone is mine, money pending the 3G iPhone is going to be mine. I have a contract from O2 that gives me 600 minutes, 500 messages and unlimited internet. No free phone, not another thing. All they ask me to do is use my contract with an iPhone. There is no specifics to which iPhone, just an iPhone.

If O2 had given me the iPhone at a subsidized amount as I was taking out a contract with them, then that would be understandable that I would be contracted to that particular iPhone. As this is not the case any attempts by them to try and pull a fast one on me are not going to be taken to kindly.

I would highly doubt that Apple and O2 have not had talks over this particular issue. I could only see Apple saying to them, look let them buy the new iPhone 3G, no hassles. As soon as O2 start hassling loyal customers its instantly going to look bad on Apple, especially the way they are dealing with the iPhone. Its not just like some random new Nokia that gets pooped out every five minutes.

At the end of my contract, and I know O2 do this, are they seriously going to phone me up and say, well thats your iPhone contract up, we will give you some other random shafty phone if you stay with us on a new random contract. Thats not going to rub off well at all. Another chance for them to get a telling from me. Hence also from that logic I think they will continue with selling the iPhone as a device you buy, like an iPod, and they will keep their contractual phone service separate. It makes sense, keeps it simple and stops O2 from having any problems. Second iPhone, new contract = fair. Different iPhone, new additional contract = undeniably unfair.

Its not well explained my thinking but I guess you can get my drift.

Hopefully Steve will address this issue at the keynote. He will know fine well that a lot of the people with the Gen 1 iPhone, who will be there, are still going to be on their 2 year, 18 month contract, and will want the new iPhone 3G. Its physically impossible for anyone to have finished their iPhone contract yet lol, so I reckon he might have a few seconds set aside to address that particular issue.

We will have to wait and see what happens anyway!!!
 
Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

This is ridiculous. You're not special. There's going to be a discount. Your ivory tower is crumbling.

It's fine to be an individual, but owning an iphone does not an individual make. I feel bad for you. I feel bad that this makes you feel good.

It's this kind of attitude that contributes to making the world a crappy place. All due to the fact that you don't want someone to have the same phone as you.

I suspected this is why some people were complaining on here about the subsidy or at least viciously explaining why it would not happen.
 
That's more fiction than fact....but if you have made a decision already based on rumors, then more the fool you.

more the fool on me? I already own the original iphone so I'm looking at "what does this new phone offer me that this one doesn't" and the answer is "not much" so the "3G and GPS" iPhone coming out really doesn't matter to me and thats what I based my decision off of.

I don't know why people insist on assuming things that have never been confirmed are true, and then basing a purchasing decision off of those "facts." No one has ever confirmed ANY of the physical dimensions of the 3G iPhone, or any of the features. Also, how do you know the third revision will be the best of all of them? Isn't that what you could say about every revision? They SHOULD be better than the previous model, otherwise there isn't really any point to the new model existing. If someone is happy with the current one, that's fine and all, I just wouldn't be so set on something that you, nor anyone outside of Apple has any idea about.

yeah no one has confirmed anything yet but as of right now based on the rumors (since we are on a rumor site you know) I wouldn't be interested in the 3G iphone, 3G coverage is spotty in my area anyway,it would be a waste for me. if the phone came out and it was bigger badder and better than this one in every way possible, I probably would buy it, but based on the rumors so far. its not something I'd be interested in, I don't see whats so hard to grasp with this.
 
Not sure if this was addressed specifically, but if I got an AT&T contract for 2 years back when the first iPhone came out, can I buy the new iPhone for the assumed discounted price and extend my contract for an additional 2 years? Seems this would be possible.
 
more the fool on me? I already own the original iphone so I'm looking at "what does this new phone offer me that this one doesn't" and the answer is "not much" so the "3G and GPS" iPhone coming out really doesn't matter to me and thats what I based my decision off of.

And so my reply to you still stands, you're basing your purchase on rumors, so more the fool you....and this, if you need reminding is the post you made, you never commented on just 3G and GPS, you're twisting the story to suit your needs:

with this phone only having 3G (Big whoop) possibly GPS, and just bigger harddrive size and it being thicker I'm going to have to pass on this installment , especially if the screen is 2.8 instead of 3.5 like rumored. I don't want a smaller screen

But I see you have already re-worded your concerns, if you had typed it this way in the first place I wouldn't have commented.
 
All I can say is ATT better be subsidizing the cost of the phone if they plan on charging us $30 to $35 a month for an unlimited data plan like they do with their other 3G devices. Who wants to pay like $95 a month for their iPhone bill? I have unlimited txting, 450 minutes, and unlimited EDGE data at a comfy $55 a month. And the next iPhone will potentially be plastic and ugly. I think I'll end up sticking with my current phone and wait another year for the next (better) model.
 
Warranty

OK People, its not that hard to figure out why they have stopped selling the iphones 4 so long. My guess is that they do not want everyone trading in there current iphones for the new 3G one. So, they are going to stop selling them and wait till everyones warranty is up. Then they wont have to refund so many iphones unless they bought an extended warranty. So, its a win/win situation for them.
 
OK People, its not that hard to figure out why they have stopped selling the iphones 4 so long. My guess is that they do not want everyone trading in there current iphones for the new 3G one. So, they are going to stop selling them and wait till everyones warranty is up. Then they wont have to refund so many iphones unless they bought an extended warranty. So, its a win/win situation for them.

Yeah, probably that is the reason, or so the 30 odd people before you seem to think.
 
I really hope the new iPhone supports HSDPA and not just WCDMA. It will probably be the latter though, seeing as they released a 2.5G phone when their competitors had been manufacturing 3G-phones for years. :(

Actually, the Infineon SGOLD3 chip that they should be using is HSDPA 7.5 capable. :) Faster than my DSL.
 
OK People, its not that hard to figure out why they have stopped selling the iphones 4 so long. My guess is that they do not want everyone trading in there current iphones for the new 3G one. So, they are going to stop selling them and wait till everyones warranty is up. Then they wont have to refund so many iphones unless they bought an extended warranty. So, its a win/win situation for them.

Warranty?! What does warranty have to do with people exchanging iPhones for 3G iPhones or getting refunds? If a new iPod comes out and my old iPod is still under warranty, I cannot just walk into the store and demand a replacement nor a refund unless I bought it within the last 14 days.

14 days would be the maximum to keep shelves empty because that is the length of Apple's return policy (and same goes for AT&T w/ Apple products). Note, however, that Apple has not used this strategy when it released newer versions of other products (laptops, computers, iPods) and just accepted returns from the prior two weeks.

I think 14 days may have turned into a month due to Apple underestimating demand for the iPhone in the beginning of May. If they abide by the 14-day policy, we could see the new 3G iPhone as early as May 23 (they were "unavailable" as of May 9).
 
While I'm hoping the release is sooner rather than later (being one of those whackos who stood in line outside my local AT&T store last June 29)... I'm skeptical about it being announced and available at WWDC. Can you imagine all those developers leaving the show to raid the local AT&T and Apple stores? I kinda doubt it, unless Apple plans to have them available for sale at the conference (or maybe developers get one free? LOL).

My money is still on something closer to last year's launch, like the last Friday of June again... unfortunately. :(
 
Warranty?! What does warranty have to do with people exchanging iPhones for 3G iPhones or getting refunds?

14 days would be the maximum to keep shelves empty because that is the length of Apple's return policy

I think that is what he meant, just used the wrong word.
 
I think that is what he meant, just used the wrong word.

even if he means return policy, it doesn't really warrant Apple not selling the iPhone for a whole month....14 days max. MAYBE we'll get lucky and see phones on May 23, JIT for Memorial Day Weekend.
 
My straight argument about the whole thing is that the iPhone is mine, money pending the 3G iPhone is going to be mine. I have a contract from O2 that gives me 600 minutes, 500 messages and unlimited internet. No free phone, not another thing. All they ask me to do is use my contract with an iPhone. There is no specifics to which iPhone, just an iPhone.

I think my problem is that yes, the iPhone is mine. But in that case, why do I even have to stick with O2? It's my phone. I own it. Why can't I use it with any network? If that much can be stipulated then I won't be happy until I've purchased the new iPhone and I've not had to alter my contract.

It's completely obvious that O2 at one time were insisting on a new contract term if you bought a new iPhone. Hopefully that is no longer a stipulation but I'm not counting my chickens.
 
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