I think it would help some of the less techy guys here if someone who is knowledgeable in engineering to explain via diagram why CDMA is so different from GSM. It's hard for me to wrap my head around what appears to be an assumption that a CDMA chip/antenna is different enough from GSM that it cannot be swapped out in any cell phone application. Is it the coding of the chip, is the chip and antenna that much bigger?
Go look at the coverage map. Then get back to us.![]()
Do those Verizon "world phones" do both voice and data, or just voice?Verizon sells a number of "world phones" with both GSM and CDMA radios, so it's really not a big deal.
The Qualcomm "Gobi" chip supports most of the major radio standards, plus has assisted GPS on the radio chip. The only issue of note is dealing with antenna design for the different frequencies.
The same reason anyone does - because they are the largest carrier in the US. By your logic no one would ever produce a CDMA phone!
There's nothing technically crazy about producing both CDMA and GSM phones, it's more about what sort of return Apple would get by doing both. GSM dominates the world cellular market (about 70%). The CDMA market is far smaller. Even though China uses CDMA, the smartphone market is still in its infancy there. Most Chinese can't afford $200 smartphones and $80-100 monthly mobile subscriptions so the revenue potential for Apple is still very limited at this time in China....whats so crazy about producing both CDMA phones and GSM phones?
The United States has the industrialized world's worst cellular service.It baffles me how the Largest carrier in the US, uses the most outdated form of wireless.
It baffles me how the Largest carrier in the US, uses the most outdated form of wireless.
Not only that but Verizon makes a killing off of their insurance policy...but now people would be buying Apple Care?
Depends on how fast users join Verizon. I suspect for a few months or even a year Verizon users would legitimately claim a faster, non-bogged-down network. But eventually capacity will be hit because it is economically unwise to build too much capacity ahead of demand.
If a significant number of current AT&T customers switch to Verizon at a rate faster than new customers joining AT&T, then maybe the AT&T network will clear-up and become faster for those sticking around!
FWIW: I don't have problems with AT&T in the East Bay of the SF Bay Area. It's fine for me, even under the bay on BART.
Why would Apple make a CDMA phone? it cant do any multimedia functions that the iPhone is touted for.
Actually a network having CDMA in todays time is a joke.
I guess as they say "Only in America"
I can see the commercial now. . .
"You can't surf the web at the same time. . . but It's on the nations better network" iPhone HD Now on Verizon
So lame. . . I don't buy these Verizon rumors simply because the iPhone, in America, doesn't need Verizon to still be successful.
GIVE IT UP!
Why would Apple waste money to produce a CDMA phone JUST FOR ONE CARRIER? Not going to happen. Give it a rest already.
13" mac book pro? nope, er, wait, hmm......
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Thinner with a faster proccessor? Um... Doesn't most tech follow the smaller and faster route? That sounds like a prediction my grandmother could make.
However, some only see the advantage for Verizon which is far from the case. IF Apple would produce a CDMA phone I doubt it'll just be for Verizon in America.
Beside, GSM is the most popular for mobile around the world. So in my opinion making a CDMA device would be kind of like a step backwards.
Apple isn't everyone else though, they don't NEED to make one. That's not my point anyways. It wouldn't be JUST for Verizon if they decided to go down this route. Once Verizon gets the okay so will Sprint and other CDMA carriers in America.
There are costs associated with designing, building, selling, and supporting a CDMA iPhone. Will projected sales of a CDMA phone justify those costs? Only Apple knows and it's their decision.
Verizon iPhone - NOT GONNA HAPPEN
As a longtime AAPL shareholder and someone who reads their SEC filings, I do not believe that Apple would be willing to build the CDMA iPhone as a loss-leader. They might have during the era when Steve Jobs was not CEO, but not today.I think they are probably willing to accept a loss with the CDMA iPhone. By having a phone on Verizon they will be able to compete with the Droid on it's own carrier...I believe that will seriously help take some wind out of the Droid's sail.
Verizon iPhone - NOT GONNA HAPPEN
CDMA is a technology from the WWII days. GSM is around 1991 I believe. SO .... Does Apple want to make phones for Verizon Metro PCS and third world countries running CDMA .... Only they can decide.
I didn't think that insurance was available with an AT&T Iphone. No Applecare, no insurance.
It baffles me how the Largest carrier in the US, uses the most outdated form of wireless.