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Except that, on second thoughts ....

If the PAYG deal does indeed include the extra hundreds of minutes per month from a nominated postcode in return for topping-up by a certain amount each month, the comparison is not quite so straightforward.

So if, for example, £15 per month top up were sufficient to cover calls made from locations other than the nominated postcode, a 16Gb 'phone over 18 months would be marginally (£40) cheaper on PAYG than the £35 per month contract - and £10 per month cheaper every month thereafter.

Hmm .... clearly a bit harder to decide than I first thought! :confused:

I thought about trying to do a least cost calculator but don't have the time... plus I'm not sure my javascript is up to it. I chickened out and added the thresholds for the PayG tariff choices and left it up to the user to sort out!

btw. Calling once a week + Favourite place you get 150 minutes for £15 and 1000 minutes from your favourite place.
Calling every day gets you 60 minutes (2 minutes a day!) - so when you call is kinda critical.
 
Tomorrow

Soooo,

Do we think tomorrow will be the official PAYG price release and pre order for delivery for the 11th!

Come on O2!
 
I find all this secrecy totally ridiculous, and extremely irritating.

What could be the possible harm in O2 putting their cards on the table?

Loads of people deciding to go PayG rather than contract?

It actually wouldn't surprise me if they held back the PayG option for a couple of weeks, just for that reason.
 
Loads of people deciding to go PayG rather than contract?

It actually wouldn't surprise me if they held back the PayG option for a couple of weeks, just for that reason.

cus on o2 you top up £10 a month it costs you 10p per text = 100 txts

+ £15 top up txt msgs things?

it costs you less over time
 
Loads of people deciding to go PayG rather than contract?

It actually wouldn't surprise me if they held back the PayG option for a couple of weeks, just for that reason.

Ooo, i bet they do that. By the time they release the PAYG i would've gone and bought a blackberry! :D
 
I find all this secrecy totally ridiculous, and extremely irritating.

What could be the possible harm in O2 putting their cards on the table?

They will want all the information to be available on the marketing launch to maximise press coverage.

Exactly the same thing Apple does with the keynotes - why do you think Apple doesn't openly say "we're fixing x, y & z in the next firmware update" months in advance?

Phazer
 
Do you guys think that O2s PAYG's will be unlocked?

If not, how much do you think they will charge for unlocking?
 
It will be locked to O2.

The best you can hope for (other than finding a free unlock on these forums) is that it will work with the excellent O2 Simplicity contracts.

Hear hear. I don't see why it shouldn't - you'd be paying the full PAYG cost of the handset, and you'd still be tied to O2 (probably paying on average more than a regular PAYG customer...)
 
Soooo,

Do we think tomorrow will be the official PAYG price release and pre order for delivery for the 11th!

Come on O2!

If they don't release the prices officially on the first... they are taking it too far. I understand that they want to keep them secret (although they seem to have failed) to check with all the other companies worldwide and to prepare the staff for questions, write T&Cs etc, but Tuesday 1st is the best day to release it - if Apple had anything to do with it anyway, they love Tuesdays! People do need a couple of weeks or so to think about these things and check if they can afford it, so any later than tomorrow and they will lose business.
 
If they don't release the prices officially on the first... they are taking it too far. I understand that they want to keep them secret (although they seem to have failed) to check with all the other companies worldwide and to prepare the staff for questions, write T&Cs etc, but Tuesday 1st is the best day to release it - if Apple had anything to do with it anyway, they love Tuesdays! People do need a couple of weeks or so to think about these things and check if they can afford it, so any later than tomorrow and they will lose business.

I agree. The only thing I'm now thinking is that if the first comes and goes with no news then they will be holding back the payg version for a while.
 
I agree. The only thing I'm now thinking is that if the first comes and goes with no news then they will be holding back the payg version for a while.

That does seem like a logical deduction - I hope that they don't as I want to buy one, but there are also rumours that they are holding back the 16GBs... so I'm screwed either way as I want to buy a Black 16GB PAYG on launch day! :cool:
 
That does seem like a logical deduction - I hope that they don't as I want to buy one, but there are also rumours that they are holding back the 16GBs... so I'm screwed either way as I want to buy a Black 16GB PAYG on launch day! :cool:

Snap. I doubt they'll hold back the 16GB, but I guess it's possible that the PAYG model will be delayed in order to maximise contract sales. I really hope that isn't the case. We'll find out tomorrow with any luck.
 
Snap. I doubt they'll hold back the 16GB, but I guess it's possible that the PAYG model will be delayed in order to maximise contract sales. I really hope that isn't the case. We'll find out tomorrow with any luck.

Snap x 2.

Im waiting for a PAYG 16gb.......and its the 1st july and still no pricing. They are going to hold it back, i can feel it in my water! :D

Seriously, if they do im tempted to say scre*w O2, i'll go off and spend the money on a 16gb 1st gen off ebay. At least it means O2 doesnt get my money! They're taking the pi*s now.
:mad:
 
Snap x 2.

Im waiting for a PAYG 16gb.......and its the 1st july and still no pricing. They are going to hold it back, i can feel it in my water! :D

Seriously, if they do im tempted to say scre*w O2, i'll go off and spend the money on a 16gb 1st gen off ebay. At least it means O2 doesnt get my money! They're taking the pi*s now.
:mad:

Yep, I was expecting an email from O2 in my inbox this am saying exactly what the PAYG prices and tariffs are, the full contract details including T&C so we know if you can downgrade after 9 months and confirmation that we can preorder from today and get our credit checks done in advance and reserve our 16GB blacks for collection at 7:02:00 11.7.08.

But no, sweet FA :mad:
 
I might be wrong (I hope I am), but the fact that it says 'available from 11th July' on the pay monthly page and 'coming soon' on the PAYG page suggests PAYG won't be available on 11th July.
 
I might be wrong (I hope I am), but the fact that it says 'available from 11th July' on the pay monthly page and 'coming soon' on the PAYG page suggests PAYG won't be available on 11th July.

Yep, a few people have thought that, so that the initial rush is for contracts where O2 get more money.

So anyone been in to O2/CPW/Apple today? - whats the verdict?
 
I might be wrong (I hope I am), but the fact that it says 'available from 11th July' on the pay monthly page and 'coming soon' on the PAYG page suggests PAYG won't be available on 11th July.

If they do delay too long then I may well put my iPhone purchase on hold for another year. One of the main reasons I want one is so that I can be away from my desk/home during the summer without fear of missing important emails. If the iPhone is not available as a Pay & Go before August, I will opt for a 3G PAYG broadband modem from 3 Mobile for my 12" Powerbook and then wait for the price drops and the 32 GB version. IT'S UP TO YOU O2!!!!
 
Yep, a few people have thought that, so that the initial rush is for contracts where O2 get more money.

So anyone been in to O2/CPW/Apple today? - whats the verdict?

I haven't been into an Apple reseller since saturday (went to find a new macbook power supply as mine had burnt out............but thats another thread!)

While i was there i asked about iphones and either the guy knew absolutely nothing or was a very good actor he said "If they do a PAYG phone then we'll probably be selling them"

But then he did go on to ask me how much they were which shocked me as if you're working for an Apple reseller you should have your finger on the pulse at least a bit and i knew more than him. This could lead onto either A) i spend far to much time on these forums, or B) the level of knowledge needed to work in a store!

I personally dont think its the 1st option, as i can give up these forums anytime i want......honestly!:D:D
 
When you think about it the O2 prices were posted last Wednesday, less than a week ago but it seems like three weeks.

All we can do is to keep the pressure on O2 by making sure these prices and the Pay & Go option is widely known about. They will then have very little room to manoeuvre and we will all get the phones we want.

Perhaps we should start emailing O2 as well to ask for more info and asking if the details they published the other day were correct - anyone have a good email address for the company.
 
I've just sent some questions through to O2 via their online form, but you can only do this if you're already an O2 customer as its asks for your mobile number if you are contract or your last top up date if you're PAYG.

Doubt i'll get a reply!
:mad:
 
I know its treading water, but as well as not releasing PAYG prices why the hell have O2 taken away the contract price info?

I mean, what are they really scared of here?
 
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