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Tried to get one at the Apple store in Stonebriar Mall in Frisco,Tx which is right outside of Dallas but got shot down at the register. They would not sell it to me without being able to pull up the At&T account:mad:
 
Tried to get one at the Apple store in Stonebriar Mall in Frisco,Tx which is right outside of Dallas but got shot down at the register. They would not sell it to me without being able to pull up the At&T account:mad:
Why wouldn't you let them pull up your account? You aren't forced to use an upgrade. I ordered from the Apple web store and they took all my AT&T information and, since I had no upgrade, I got the phone for full price. I only discovered this morning that it's unlocked.
 
can anyone try to use Tmobile microsim and does it work for the service? I only have a HK sim card, choose Tmobile as provider and it won't let me use the EDGE service, when I receive call, it pop up message saying i lost network and have to choose Tmobile again. :eek:
 
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Why wouldn't you let them pull up your account? You aren't forced to use an upgrade. I ordered from the Apple web store and they took all my AT&T information and, since I had no upgrade, I got the phone for full price. I only discovered this morning that it's unlocked.

I think people were under the impression based on the responses in this thread that you could get an unlocked VZW phone even without being an AT&T customer.

In reality, you have to have an AT&T account to get an unlocked 4S from Apple.
 
In reality, you have to have an AT&T account to get an unlocked 4S from Apple.

that is for now I think because the unlocked iPhone not available so apple unlocking the ATT specific models.

this will change once november comes and unlocked iPhones comes ...

if you are paying full price why apple should care (whether you have account with ATT or not)!
 
that is for now I think because the unlocked iPhone not available so apple unlocking the ATT specific models.

this will change once november comes and unlocked iPhones comes ...

if you are paying full price why apple should care (whether you have account with ATT or not)!

Well the Apple website says that the unlocked iPhone 4S will not work on CDMA carriers...which makes sense since the phone's ESN needs to be registered to Verizon or Sprint.
 
Why wouldn't you let them pull up your account? You aren't forced to use an upgrade. I ordered from the Apple web store and they took all my AT&T information and, since I had no upgrade, I got the phone for full price. I only discovered this morning that it's unlocked.

I'm not an AT&T customer. Tmobile
 
In reality, you have to have an AT&T account to get an unlocked 4S from Apple.

No, this is not the case.

This morning I went into the Manhattan Apple Store on W14th and purchased an ATT 4S (MC919LL/A) by saying "I'd like an off-contract ATT iPhone 4S 32GB, Black".

It's just a 'gift' for a friend. (who's not eligible for a contract re-up yet, or too cheap to upgrade, or broke his phone a month after he bought it, etc. you fill in your own reason. they didn't question me at all so it didn't matter.)

I just said "I'd like an off-contract ATT iPhone 4S 32GB, Black, with AppleCare+".

That's all. Was handed a box. They swiped my CC. The box was never opened. I did not reveal my own ATT account info - or anyone else's.

Brought it home. Stuck in my own ATT micro-sim. Powered up.

"Congratulations your phone is unlocked."

Stuck in two other micro-sims (one from vodaphone.de and one from comviq). They were both properly recognized and the vodaphone.de one 'roamed' with 5 bars of signal. though neither sim has any US minutes/data.) when i stick these same SIMS in my locked iPhone 4, I get 'invalid SIM' and 'no service'. very different response.

just for kicks, i 'restored' the firmware twice to make sure. each time "Congratulations your phone is unlocked" appeared at the completion of the restore.

off to europe next week.... can't wait.

I'm back in the states before November 15th (the return date on the slip). So IF for some reason Apple decides to mark this phone as locked in its database, I'll take it back to the store and get the unlocked model. but, they won't. (and yes, i'll do a backup/firmware restore on the 14th of november just to test......)

this was a deliberate calculated decision to leave full-price off-contract phones unlocked (but unadvertised) by Apple since they ARE releasing the unlocked SKU within a few weeks, why piss off customers who paid full price during the first few weeks? they will only return to the stores in droves the moment the unlocked version appears and create a customer service nightmare.

I'm happy.
 
No, this is not the case.

This morning I went into the Manhattan Apple Store on W14th and purchased an ATT 4S (MC919LL/A) by saying "I'd like an off-contract ATT iPhone 4S 32GB, Black".

Well this isn't standard obviously since people in the thread are reporting they've had to provide AT&T acct. info before getting the phone.

I guess its luck of the draw at this point.
 
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This morning I went into the Manhattan Apple Store on W14th and purchased an ATT 4S (MC919LL/A) by saying "I'd like an off-contract ATT iPhone 4S 32GB, Black".

Same here, @ apple store San Francisco, I asked for AT&T 32GB black 4S, MC919LL/A and said I wanted to pay full price. They asked if I was an existing iPhone user and I said yes, passed on the AppleCare+ and paid for phone still shrink wrapped.

Dropped tmobile sim into phone, then synched to iTunes to restore from backup. Received tmobile signal, EDGE, I can use SIRI and picture messaging, it was using the settings from my previous phone.

Sweet. No need to wait until November.
 
No, this is not the case.

This morning I went into the Manhattan Apple Store on W14th and purchased an ATT 4S (MC919LL/A) by saying "I'd like an off-contract ATT iPhone 4S 32GB, Black".

It's just a 'gift' for a friend. (who's not eligible for a contract re-up yet, or too cheap to upgrade, or broke his phone a month after he bought it, etc. you fill in your own reason. they didn't question me at all so it didn't matter.)

I just said "I'd like an off-contract ATT iPhone 4S 32GB, Black, with AppleCare+".

That's all. Was handed a box. They swiped my CC. The box was never opened. I did not reveal my own ATT account info - or anyone else's.

Brought it home. Stuck in my own ATT micro-sim. Powered up.

"Congratulations your phone is unlocked."

Stuck in two other micro-sims (one from vodaphone.de and one from comviq). They were both properly recognized and the vodaphone.de one 'roamed' with 5 bars of signal. though neither sim has any US minutes/data.) when i stick these same SIMS in my locked iPhone 4, I get 'invalid SIM' and 'no service'. very different response.

just for kicks, i 'restored' the firmware twice to make sure. each time "Congratulations your phone is unlocked" appeared at the completion of the restore.

off to europe next week.... can't wait.

I'm back in the states before November 15th (the return date on the slip). So IF for some reason Apple decides to mark this phone as locked in its database, I'll take it back to the store and get the unlocked model. but, they won't. (and yes, i'll do a backup/firmware restore on the 14th of november just to test......)

this was a deliberate calculated decision to leave full-price off-contract phones unlocked (but unadvertised) by Apple since they ARE releasing the unlocked SKU within a few weeks, why piss off customers who paid full price during the first few weeks? they will only return to the stores in droves the moment the unlocked version appears and create a customer service nightmare.

I'm happy.

did they have any 16gb left?
 
Same here, @ apple store San Francisco, I asked for AT&T 32GB black 4S, MC919LL/A and said I wanted to pay full price. They asked if I was an existing iPhone user and I said yes, passed on the AppleCare+ and paid for phone still shrink wrapped.

Dropped tmobile sim into phone, then synched to iTunes to restore from backup. Received tmobile signal, EDGE, I can use SIRI and picture messaging, it was using the settings from my previous phone.

Sweet. No need to wait until November.

Do you guys tell them you want that exact model MC919LL/A or do you just ask for an AT&T phone?
 
Guys, tomorrow I will go to AT&T store and they offer to buy with contract and without and without contract the prices is 650,750,850.I can buy without contract and separately buy an pre paid sim card.Does its going to work if I unpacked the box and do everything in my home?
 
Well this isn't standard obviously since people in the thread are reporting they've had to provide AT&T acct. info before getting the phone.
I just got a phone and it unlocked fine in iTunes.
I did NOT provide ATT info. He asked and I was confused and said I wanted it OFF contract. And he said "ooh, ok, misheard you." Then all I had to do was pay and I was out the door.

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Do you guys tell them you want that exact model MC919LL/A or do you just ask for an AT&T phone?
They ask you if you size, color, and carrier. I told him ATT, OFF contract. That is also my model number, 32 GB black. Unlocked in iTunes.
 
Same here, @ apple store San Francisco, I asked for AT&T 32GB black 4S, MC919LL/A and said I wanted to pay full price. They asked if I was an existing iPhone user and I said yes, passed on the AppleCare+ and paid for phone still shrink wrapped.

Dropped tmobile sim into phone, then synched to iTunes to restore from backup. Received tmobile signal, EDGE, I can use SIRI and picture messaging, it was using the settings from my previous phone.

Sweet. No need to wait until November.


Can you comment on the internet speed. Faster than expected, acceptable or very slow. I guess I was just unlucky. Apple store where i live would not sell the phone without verifying an account with AT&T
 
I got this to work today. Got a white ATT 64GB at my local apple store which said it was unlocked as soon as I plugged it in. You guys do not need to give them any of your ATT account info or phone number. When they scan the box to begin the sale, on their iPod Touch they need to select "Device Only" instead of "New Line", "Upgrade" ect...

For those asking about ever getting a replacement iPhone that won't be unlocked, that is not true. Once you have an unlocked iPhone as soon as the genius scans the broken phone and then the replacement one, the unlock carries over to the new one automatically. This is how it has always been because of the IMEI unlock database system that apple uses. The model number does not matter at all for this.
 
Can you comment on the internet speed. Faster than expected, acceptable or very slow. I guess I was just unlucky. Apple store where i live would not sell the phone without verifying an account with AT&T
As a previous user with tmobile, the 4S is just as 'fast' or 'slow' as before. :) EDGE gets the job done but it's not going to be 3G fast. I asked SIRI "where am I" and it responded with the map really quick, but the details of my location took a bit of time to load.
 
Can you guys with success post your model numbers? I'm wondering if it matters.
I have a sealed MC925LL/A and didn't give any info to upgrade. In fact, I couldn't because I wasn't the account holder..
 
Can you guys with success post your model numbers? I'm wondering if it matters.
I have a sealed MC925LL/A and didn't give any info to upgrade. In fact, I couldn't because I wasn't the account holder..
MC919LL/A, 32 GB black. Unlocked in iTunes.
Someone else also posted that model number earlier.
 

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Going to go out and buy one within the next week. :)

Also, I look on craigslist and there are people selling their AT&T iPhone 4s's UNOPENED for cheaper than retail since they probably upgraded, will this phone be unlocked?
 
Going to go out and buy one within the next week. :)

Also, I look on craigslist and there are people selling their AT&T iPhone 4s's UNOPENED for cheaper than retail since they probably upgraded, will this phone be unlocked?
No. Only iPhone 4S units that you purchased at Apple store for full retail price and without Apple attaching it to your AT&T account and this can change at any point. :eek:

Dave
 
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