Oh and a shout out to everybody who joined in the noise. This wouldn't have happened without clear pushback and Pro customers voting (or not voting) with their wallets.
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'Constant Negativity' From Pro Users Led Apple to Develop Modular Mac Pro, Which May Not Ship Until 2019
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Not fired, but rather he'd have clear Steve boundaries which would gotten Steve screaming at him if he messed up. I think the iron fist of saying No something sucks is sorely missing. Phil Schiller is a follower, as is Cook. They need a single focal point to zoom in their energies and drive, such that they execute as though their very lives depended on it. There's an empty leadership void at Apple that's allowed so many in the upper echelons to take their foot off the gas pedal. What output we have now is the result of that.
I don't believe R&D died with Steve, I believe they just lost focus and no longer have the "we must execute to perfection or die" mentality.
This must be really difficult for you. You are stuck in a a logical catch-22, like a classic episode of Star Trek - Apple is always right. But if Apple admitted they are wrong, then Apple can't always be right. But Apple is always right. But if Apple admitted they are wrong, then Apple can't always be right. But Apple is always right.
*SHORT CIRCUIT*
I definitely agree with this. If R&D hasn't died, it's certainly adrift without a captain.
Apple isn't perfect, but they aren't run by idiots either.
I made an earlier post in this thread about how I felt Apple's future has no place for the Mac Pro, and I continue to stand by it.
Thank you. This can't be stated enough. The Pro's Pros have pretty much already moved on.
Again, this is closing the barn door, after all the horses have already left.
Very interesting.
Virtual bear hug all the pros who complained: you're a very important reason why Mac desktops won't be abandoned. Thank you very much! I hope some will stick around, if they can.
As many others have said so much more eloquently than me: a bit sad it has to take Apple nearly alienating a user base they would want to keep to actually light those fires and kick those tires. So good they got up off their laurels and lifted their heads out of the sand.
cannot muck any of these releases up.
I do hope they consider lowering their prices and/or giving customers better internals for less money too.
Virtual bear hug all the pros who complained: you're a very important reason why Mac desktops won't be abandoned. Thank you very much! I hope some will stick around, if they can.
As many others have said so much more eloquently than me: a bit sad it has to take Apple nearly alienating a user base they would want to keep to actually light those fires and kick those tires. So good they got up off their laurels and lifted their heads out of the sand.
cannot muck any of these releases up.I do hope they consider lowering their prices and/or giving customers better internals for less money too.
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The iPad is the perfect touch bar. You get a full screen and you get to touch it.
How long can it take to put modern tech into the old Mac Pro
You're asking the right question. 10 years ago, Apple turned around their whole Mac product line in 6 months to support the switch to Intel processors. If you're telling me it takes 2 years to throw out the Mac trash can with the rest of the garbage then somebody needs to be fired.
Well, it won't be a tashcan this time, so they'll have to come up with something new. Maybe a tent?
i'm pretty sure they already made alternative design studies before they decided on the 2013 MP. (rackmount rumors, anyone? not going to happen anyway
Yeah I don't get why they don't just go back to the cheese grader in the interim. How hard can it really be to update that? It wasn't great looking but show me an easily upgradable PC that looks great. Leave looking great to the consumer line. I want something functional and easily repairable / upgradable with the following two things soldered to the motherboard: Jack Sh** !!!
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2 years for a desktop?!? Holy crap Apple. I appreciate that Apple doesn't (usually) release half baked products, but 2 years to make a desktop which will be made up of mostly off the shelf parts in an Apple designed Shell seems a little outrageous.
Well, what's different is that Steve isn't at the helm. FWIW, Steve was 100% right about Flash such that even the people who wrote Flash agreed with him.
Steve also said you skate to where the puck is going, not where it currently is. With this current Mac Pro hogwash, the execs hadn't even started skating yet. It does make me sad why it took them four years to wake up and realize they're destroying Steve's legacy.
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Two years to get it right, or two years to get it wrong?
Your customers are your boss Apple, remember that.
Even drug addicts can't go cold turkey ;-} The issue is transition! Every time Apple has moved to a new interface they always carry the older interface forward as well. What happened here is they dropped multiple ports and gave us dongles! Very bad move!
To add to this they dropped MagSafe! So if you trip on the USB-C cord Opps! There goes your expensive laptop to the trash! Major mistake!
While I agree the MagSafe cable & the connector on the system needed improvement. Dropping it altogether was not the answer.
The only thing they did do right (finally) on the power brick is making it so you could replace the cable!
Dear God no. Dells are absolute **** and don't belong in the same sentence as Apple. They need to go out in the trash where they belong.
For a single user you are likely right. But, compound this with 100 or even 500 systems! Just a big mess! It was a bad move!
This. Apple totally dropped the ball with FCPX and the nMP. They had a stranglehold on Post Production and all they needed was an improved 5,1 machine and an improved FCP7. Instead they delivered two products that didn't fit their current customers needs and pissed off a lot of people while in the process, driving many customers to Premiere and to PC's. GPU acceleration has also really taken off over these last 3 years leaving most Mac users out in the cold.
The mass exodus has already started in post and I'm afraid this new machine may be too little, too late.
I thought the new MacBook Pro broke sales records when it was released? Don't tell me that now it's not true. And why on earth did they spend all that time on the trash can, non upgradeable design for the Mac Pro? And now they are saying, hey guys, we goofed, just hang in there for a couple of more years while we get our act together. In the meantime, you can keep buying the outdated model knowing we never should have made it in the first place. We care about our pro customers!!
Yeah - Apple's thinnest 'desktop' yet will come with four legs and look just like a table - people will walk by your desk - see your monitor and keyboard - and then ask you where the computer is.
Same, my 2010 8-Core upgraded to dual X5677's running 8 cores at 3.46ghz purrs along beautifully! Only thing its lacking is faster single core speed. Lets hope that there is a light for us! A newer version of mine and ill sell my kidney.
Agreed! Intel's inability to produce more powerful CPU's was a factor but not the main issue. The GPU was the real issue here, the dual GPU's never were really leveraged in most pro software. This is were a single more powerful GPU is needed and Apple hit the thermal issues with it.
But, this gets into what the design parameters where with the original design of the '13 MP and what people are doing today. 4k, 5k or even 8k video was not even being thought of yet back in 2013. Today we are working with RED cameras doing 4k and NHK (http://www.nhk.or.jp/8k/index_e.html) are teasing us with 8k! This is were the Mac Pro comes up short.
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Yup. For Apple/Tim Cook to think they haven't all but destroyed their reputation as a pro hardware maker is delusional.
Those stupid overpriced MacBook "pro" machines, no iMacs, and 6 years between Mac Pro updates.
This is what happens when you put a purse saleswoman in charge of retail.
I'm embarrassed to defend this company anymore.