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'Constant Negativity' From Pro Users Led Apple to Develop Modular Mac Pro, Which May Not Ship Until 2019

Let's all just face the reality here.

If you keep buying current apple hardware apple won't be listening at all. They care what they are selling and how many is sold. Their bottom line is the green backs. You really think they will listen to their "fan base" when these fans keep giving them money for products that suck?

If only Tim Cook reads MR he can really get some insight on the real apple fanatics....but i still see posts like "keep up the good work, apple!" "I love your products no matter how expensive and old tech it is!" "TAKE MY MONEY!"

Stop buying their products they will definitely listen!
 
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cBraunDesign said:
I'm a professional photographer, and I did exactly this. About a week after the 2016 MBPs were released, and taking a few days to process it, I ended up ordering a refurbished top-spec 2015 model. It's not much different from the new one in terms of performance, but it works with all my peripherals and it has real function keys (which I use regularly for Photoshop work).
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I did exactly the same thing, and currently own a top end 2015 model. I actually bought the 2016 and compared it to the refurb 2015, 2016 was returned, hated the touch bar, gimmick for me.
 
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ArtOfWarfare said:
The old architecture wasn't legal to be sold in the EU anymore. Something about the fans being dangerous and requiring a lot of rework.
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That said they could do an existing MacPro MB and infrastructure with expandability ports really fast. They could do an external PCIe box NOW. MBP fans?

Heck they could suggest reduced or smarter regulations. They have plenty of lawyers.
 
"Pros" need to be able to swap out HDDs, RAM, GPU cards etc. No HDD bays meaning having to spend several hundred more for an external Thunderbolt enclosure. A $3,000 machine needs to be able to replace GPU card in a couple of years not ruin the whole machine because dated card is soldered in there. Build a Hackintosh. They must've known about thermal constraints 2 years or more ago... 2014.. so it takes 5 years to make a new box? Did someone turn their lab into an opium den?

It's not a laptop or a cutesy piece of desktop jewelry. It's a damn tool!
 
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If they wanted to, they could start selling a new tower in a few months. Just rebrand the HP-Z line and they're set.

Hopefully this guy is wrong. We're talking about a tower. Which is probably the simplest form of a computer that exists and something anyone could build with off the shelf parts.

I'm glad they're finally listening. Hopefully they don't overthink it and it comes out sooner rather than later.
 
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Rocketman said:
Listening, maybe. 2 years to resolve it, after admitting it? Fail. Just offer both right now. Use an old physical architecture with a new set of guts. THIS YEAR.
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oooo imagine seeing the Tower back, with a Stand alone 5K display. Old hardware, happy users.
 
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TMRJIJ said:
I'm going to be so pissed if they remove the Touch Bar. Way to ruin other people's workflows, MR members.
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They should at least offer a non-nerfed option without the bar. It's utterly useless to me and I need a real ESC key (given that I spend a lot of time editing in vi).

BTW, according to the original blog entry (which Mac Rumors didn't link for some reason) they seem to be exploring this:

"As Apple announced, we'll be getting a new Mac Pro and an iMac Pro as a result. In addition, Apple is said to be exploring additional Retina MacBook Pro models without the Touch Bar, and other pro-oriented features, such as hooking an iPad Pro up to a Mac to use it as a Cintiq-like device.'
 
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TMRJIJ said:
I'm going to be so pissed if they remove the Touch Bar. Way to ruin other people's workflows, MR members.
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They won't remove it completely. They'll likely just do what they've done with the 13" and offer a 15" without it. Go back to three models of each size like they had a few years back, and most likely a lower entry price for the 15" (probably be non-touch with todays base 15" spec at $1999/£1999).
 
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Asarien said:
This couldn't be any truer. I'm an IT Admin at an all-Mac office, and we ended up purchasing over $100,000 worth of the older MacBook Pros instead of the TouchBar ones in fear of Apple discontinuing them.

Apple has a serious ego problem; thinking every business can just switch their entire infrastructure just for new tech that isn't technically better, yet costs more. The hassle of retrofitting our office and conference rooms overnight with USB-C displays and a myriad of USB-C adapters per user, is a completely unreasonable and cost-prohibitive request.
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This might be pretty unreasonable of me to suggest, but what about something like a single OWC Dock per room? (yes, expensive also). What's the downside to that which I'm not seeing? (vs. 100k in older equipment stockpiling).
 
That's what I suspected. The Mac Pro was dead in the water, with only a spec bump in the works but that's all.

When this announcement was made I really felt like Apple had to answer the negative feedback from pro users, who were jumping ship. So there is announcement, but no new Mac Pro in the works yet.
 
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maflynn said:
Not surprising from what we see in the MBP forum.


Its been in limbo for 3 years, so its good that Apple laid out a roadmap of what will happen.


Not sure why it took this long but its definitely welcome news
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On your last one, it's almost like there is new leadership at the helm... We're getting roadmaps and previews on upcoming Macs and Mac Pros from Apple? When did this start? or better yet, when was the last time we had this from Apple?

Just trying to find a deeper rumor from this news...
 
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Yes, this forum can get pretty negative and hard on Apple, especially of late.
And I'm not saying any of the gripping here on MR had anything to do with Apple's decision...but maybe just a little.

Apple eating crow on the failure of the MacPro perhaps is a turning point in their outlook.
One, that they can't rest on past successes and fall asleep at the wheel.
And two, a realization that they can't take even life-long loyal customers for granted.
 
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Rossatron said:
It is courageous to call feedback from users "negativity"
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The thing is: why am I negative about Apple's newer devices and trash them?
Because I actually care about their products and want them to do better.

If Acer releases a piece of garbage I don't care. It's what I personally expect from Acer and a reason why I won't buy their products. But I want to buy Apple's products. They just make it constantly harder for me to justify doing it.
 
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Asarien said:
2019. Christ.

This essentially proves Ive and Co. haven't even been seriously designing successors to the Mac Pro in the background, over the past four years.
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You wrote exactly what I thought when I read all of this news. They left customers hanging while feeding us crap about a "pipeline." I could say a lot of bitter salty stuff but what's the point. I'm thinking it's extremely likely we will be buying the modular Pro someday. Most of the things we do, can be done on our laptops and iOS devices, but we like to anchor our ecosystem with a powerful desktop machine.

Well let's hope they've turned a corner and get on with it then. Sheesh. Smh.:cool:
 
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B... but I thought the new MacBook Pro had set new sales records?

Either way, I think Apple HQ is beginning to realise that they can make very rationale decisions (and hold much-needed talk with press) in the absence of Cook. The guy might as well not even be CEO; the amount of time he spends flirting with asian dudes is criminal.
 
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Rocketman said:
Listening, maybe. 2 years to resolve it, after admitting it? Fail. Just offer both right now. Use an old physical architecture with a new set of guts. THIS YEAR.
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Then everyone would complain. No. Take the time to do it right.
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TMRJIJ said:
I'm going to be so pissed if they remove the Touch Bar. Way to ruin other people's workflows, MR members.
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They aren't going to take something out that they just put in.
 
This must mean that previously prototype models must have used the current design but testing new components. Perhaps that was part of testing the thermal constraints.
 
Modular, like a Sun Sparc Station IPX :)

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Or an old ICL DRS 300

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