Consumer Reports Still Not Recommending iPhone 4

[CFreymarc]

Consumer Reports has needed a good controversy for a long time. I guess Nader or someone wanted to make the iPhone 4 like the Corvair.

Now who said, "Insult enough productions and you will be right eventually." to descirbe a critique technique?

Wonder if anyone shorted Apple stock over all this.

 

[thetoad30]

You can't return your Toyota for a full refund. Also touching the antennae can't kill a person (at least to my inferior scientific knowledge).

Again, critical thinking skills.

It's called a metaphor. It's a parallel situation, not exact in every detail.

FFS.

 

[dogie678]

The tides are starting to turn; take a look at CR's blog and the comments, there is a huge rising backlash against them for continuing to bash iPhone 4. They are also being negligent of the fact that MANY other phones have the same issue. (See here: http://www.apple.com/antenna/ )

Nice

 

[GL2]

I believe so because other things they don't recommend are not made by apple. And we all know how anything Apple makes headlines period. So yes, they are getting alot more attention than normal with this whole situation.

I'm not following your logic. Yes, they're getting a lot of attention in this instance because the iPhone 4 is a hot product. But to suggest that this was a calculated move on CR's part to gain subscribers is quite a stretch. As a long-time subscriber, I've always found them to be impartial.

 

[hissyfit]

people come on!!!

Who doesn't put a case on an iPhone??? I am thinking that a smart person would have already done this. I for one have, even though i haven't had any issues. If you don't like it, then return it! I think a free bumper is more than any other company would do. The problem with always giving people greatness is that you set yourself up to eventually fail. I'd consider listening to the haters bitch if they were trying or have already made a perfect phone. Until then, all the haters are just winey spoiled brats

 

[azurehi]

I just called CR and will be canceling my subscription. I've had all the iPhone versions except for 3G and used the iPhone 4 for 3 weeks. It's an incredible phone and should be recommended by a huge margin. There are so many incredible features in the iPhone that also work simultaneously in concert with our Apple computers:
Dear Consumer Reports,

Please forward this to the appropriate department. Thank you in advance for this.

I am strongly considering canceling my CR web access for a refund. I am appalled of CR's treatment of Apple and the new iPhone 4. I've had my iPhone 4 for three weeks and it is an incredible phone. Today, CR again refused to recommend the iPhone 4 after Apple stated they are addressing every concern and even offering free cases.

CR is greatly benefitting in the press with their contention with Apple. Further, CR has a poll on it's home page asking if their advice is going to steer people away from buying the iPhone. This is deeply troubling me that CR is trying to bring down this incredibly innovative American company. CR is using this to sell their product.

I can no longer recommend CR or trust any of it's rankings and reviews. *

With Sadness,

Oh No, Mr Bill

 

[fleshman03]

I agree with Consumer Reports.

 

[rhanley]

Mike Arrington (typical iPhone "hater") agrees with you: http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/15/iphone-4-consumer-reports-needs-to-get-it-together/

I'd bet that CR got as many hits in the last week as they had all of last year, they're loving it!

But what if you were having the exact same issue they described and the reason why they can't recommend it?

I think people that refuse to see this as a real issue (that is NOT as bad on any other phone) have their blinders on.

I had the issue (returned my phone already) and posted on here a dozen times for people to PM me and I could show them first hand.. Could've had an ichat and would have happily provided my phone # for the call.

You know how many people took me up on that offer? NONE

You would have seen that as soon as I touched the spot, you would no longer hear me, if I left it there, the call would drop.

I just don't understand why everyone is so upset for Consumer Reports. They are supposed to stick up for me (the consumer) and not the company (Apple) or its loyal followers that are willing to put up with flaws.

 

[dm2]

But I doubt most of you know what dB are.

Database? or wait, database it's DB, so what's the hell is dB?
it's good to know that there are few people out there who really does know
about dB(s) and most importantly they can explain to us mere mortal
what amazing thing dB is

 

[Chwisch87]

Question.

I am going you a random phone. If you touch it in one spot, you can loose all your signal. A case however fixes this issue. Do you recommend this phone?

no ... of course not. A phone should have to come with a case to function properly.

This is why CR still will not recommend it.

 

[dogie678]

I've been using my iPhone 4 with and without a case for 3 weeks now with NO issues at all.

 

[weespeed]

I'm not following your logic. Yes, they're getting a lot of attention in this instance because the iPhone 4 is a hot product. But to suggest that this was a calculated move on CR's part to gain subscribers is quite a stretch. As a long-time subscriber, I've always found them to be impartial.

Did people also forget they initially said they didn't see any problems? So many people were linking that blog.
Then they actually went and bought 3 iphone 4 and tested them and said they were wrong.
Now everyone that used them for their 'iphone has no problems' hates them. People are really funny..

 

[QCassidy352]

CR just isn't making sense here. They rated this the best overall smartphone antenna problem included. So they can't recommend their own overall winner? I guess then they can't recommend any smartphone?

 

[ChrisTX]

I still think this mess is ridiculous. No one is bitching about the iPhone 4 and the reception except for the techies on the internet. Apples data of lower return rates, and lower call volume to Apple about this issue proves this. Why is this so hard to comprehend for everyone. CR is hurting, and looking for free press. Everybody wants a piece of the pie!

 

[tCruzin4lyfe]

I'm not following your logic. Yes, they're getting a lot of attention in this instance because the iPhone 4 is a hot product. But to suggest that this was a calculated move on CR's part to gain subscribers is quite a stretch. As a long-time subscriber, I've always found them to be impartial.

Im not saying that from the start it was their plan but Im sure they are fully aware of the attention they are receiving and will receive. Like I said before its their opinion just like we all have our own. But my OPINION is they are going to run with this. Same with websites and everybody who reports news. Its their jobs but with something this hot, they also have other things in mind.

 

[blizaine]

Explain this video and further explain how this is not a design flaw? Amazing no death grip needed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7tfH9oBQbk

I guess it's a good thing I don't hold my phone by trying to balance it on the tip on my finger, while talking on it.

Although this has been a closer representation of my results.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMRzXKGzn0g

 

[thedoctor9]

Explain this video and further explain how this is not a design flaw? Amazing no death grip needed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7tfH9oBQbk

It is what it is in the video... No one is even contesting that. Even the Apple press con acknowledges that. But do you use your phone by putting a finger on the gap? Probably not. Use the phone correctly and it will work as it is designed to.

 

[tCruzin4lyfe]

I still think this mess is ridiculous. No one is bitching about the iPhone 4 and the reception except for the techies on the internet. Apples data of lower return rates, and lower call volume to Apple about this issue proves this. Why is this so hard to comprehend for everyone. CR is hurting, and looking for free press. Everybody wants a piece of the pie!

EXACTLY, I knew numbers were going to be low but man, didnt think that low and thats crazy. Blown way out of proportion but media loves a big story (CR included)

 

[weespeed]

ummm, the signals drop. who gives a crap if it's 20db or not. I've yet to be able to get a call to drop on my iPhone 4 and I've tried hard to do it. Isn't that what really matters? Are we really going to arguing that your signal drops 1 less db than mine, when most all phones drop signal when held?

I'm happy you don't have any problems with your iPhone. But you responded that there are tons of videos out there and for him to pay attention, when you clearly haven't.

Also yes other phones drop signal Bars when held. But none so far drop 20db like the iPhone4, not any of the previous models as well..

And we can't argue if i have 1 less db lees than you cause there aren't videos of it!!
Also I we can't because I have an iPhone 4 too..lol

 

[thetoad30]

I've been using my iPhone 4 with and without a case for 3 weeks now with NO issues at all.

Again, in very big text so it sinks into your thick skull:

THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T EXIST.

I don't have the proximity sensor issue. Apple has acknowledged it exists. You don't see me sitting here telling those that see it with their own eyes that it doesn't exist. Or is it that just because Apple said so, it's okay?

 

[i.mac]

interesting...

Let's see:

-Apple:

1. We have a 100 mil lab
2. We have 18 well paid PhDs
3. 4 billions in research
4. A phone that noone can beat

-Consumer Report:

1. Not good enough

 

[firewood]

Question.

I am going you a random phone. If you touch it in one spot, you can loose all your signal.

Most phones have that. It not only causes a loss of signal, but shuts the phone down.

 

[ChromeAce]

What would have happened if Toyota told their customers they were pressing the gas pedal wrong?

Or they should just not speed up to the point where the software error was?

Or that it only happens on the highway and regardless of the fact it could happen, the car still looks good and has lots of safety features to protect you when the ****er won't stop accelerating?

Seriously, people. This is why this nation doesn't excel at science anymore. No one uses critical thinking skills.

The phone's antenna is now EXPOSED. In all the other phones, it never was, and never is for the reason that human contact ATTENUATES signals. In fact, any capacitive or conductive contact to an antenna detunes it. Period.

The mistake here is that Apple didn't figure this out, or ignored it for style.

If you cannot see that, or cannot accept that, then you should take your single finger that cannot cause it and please pull the trigger that "won't" fire the gun into your temple.

You Apple fanboys are absolutely ridiculous. Like little kids that hack at gaming online.

What's the point?

This phone is flawed in the fact that the antenna is touchable. NO OTHER PHONE loses this much signal with a single finger. NONE. BARS do not matter. Signal dB do. But I doubt most of you know what dB are. That's because all you know of DB is that you are called one every day of your life.

Toyota never found a problem with their cars. They recalled in the face of mass hysteria, spurred on by the unprofessional muckraking Gizmodos of the world. It turned out to be driver error. Apple is trying to be smarter about it.

 

[fifthworld]

Im not saying that from the start it was their plan but Im sure they are fully aware of the attention they are receiving and will receive. Like I said before its their opinion just like we all have our own. But my OPINION is they are going to run with this. Same with websites and everybody who reports news. Its their jobs but with something this hot, they also have other things in mind.

So this apply also to all rumor websites including MacRumors?

 

[i.mac]

Question.

I am going you a random phone. If you touch it in one spot, you can loose all your signal. A case however fixes this issue. Do you recommend this phone?

no ... of course not. A phone should have to come with a case to function properly.

This is why CR still will not recommend it.

BS and you know it