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A question: Have they tested the nokia n97, the BB 9700 or the N1?

I dare them to recommend ANY of the above phones and say blatant lies that they are better in reception than the iphone.:confused:

N1 has better reception than ip4 in san francisco, thats for sure!
 
This is classic, Amen!!!

Classic stupidity. Why would I trust the idiots who knowingly put out a defective phone? Man, the fanboys are out in full force defending the brand today. Can't wait to see all the ads mocking the iPhone. The shine is off the Apple.
 
Do people still pay attention to Consumer Reports? I used to subscribe a long time ago but got fed up with the totally passionless way they review their products--especially cars where passion is a prime factor in buying a car for many of us. But they do that with everything and although objectivity is an important factor, it is not the only factor.

As a fan of science, I kind of like dispassionate analysis.
 
seriously
1. Apple admitted, that problem exists
2. they marked spot that you should avoid to touch (like Nokia does)
3. if you don't like it return the phone
I can't get it, really
again
IF SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH A DAMNED PHONE, JUST RETURN IT
30 days is a fair amount of time to make a decision.
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I returned mine -- So are you saying I should no longer post about it? :(

What will I do with my free time??

All in fun -- It's Friday!
 
At first when I joined this site I figured that the majority of people were just like me, excited about products that fit our needs. However in this turn of events with the Iphone 4 as the protagonist, I'm amazed at how a corporation has managed to effectively put a positive spin on a problem so obvious. More amazing is how anyone can believe ANY corporation and take their word as the ultimate truth. Sure, it's your money. I guess it's no wonder why corporations consistently take advantage of consumers and get away with it. Either consumers like yourselves are ignorant, or in this case are brainwashed into believing that their **** doesn't stink.

No one is brainwashing you - you do not like IP4 you go return it and buy any other phone that works for you. Apple was not planning this presser. They did it to explain to all the whiners that is a non-issue. It it is an issue for you just do not stick with Apple. I do not take Apple's word as an ultimate truth, I take what they show me and decide for myself. I personally had a theory about the reception way before this presser. Steve just confirmed it with facts.
 
why is this front page news? how is this news at all? apple didn't fix the problem. if consumer reports suddenly recommended the iPhone because they now offer a free case, their credibility would be as much as a joke as apple's

the sheer amount of illogical posts here unfortunately represents the mindset of the typical apple fan these days. how times have changed.
 
I believe Apple has done the right thing. The device isn't defective. I actually believe Apple will come out of this looking better now. The iPhone 4 with a bumper/case is still the best smart phone on the market.
 
I bought a VCR based on Consumer Reports and it failed a week later. Never read their publication again.
 
I returned mine -- So are you saying I should no longer post about it? :(

What will I do with my free time??

All in fun -- It's Friday!

did I say you should no longer post about it?
no I didn't, you have my permission to continue to post :)
 
I very much dislike employing the word "fanboy" for it's connotative resonance, but you people are forcing me to use it.

This thread tops them all; never have I seen such a prevalent flock of fanboys. What obliges you to injudiciously disregarding the words of a credible source? I know; your undying commitment to Apple.

If Apple intends to fix the antenna, then can't we conclude it's defective? If we can conclude this, then we can definitively conclude free cases as not being an effective solution. Because of this, I can safely say that I concur with CR continuing to not recommend the iPhone.

Fanboy shades have been applied, so here we go:

- If I don't have the issue, no one has the issue. Even though there are tons of people on here with issues, they all have a hidden agenda and are liars!

- Every smart phone drops bars when you hold it a certain way -- Sure, they don't drop calls and reception, but we don't care about that. Didn't you see the Press Conference? Steve only showed bars, so that's all that matters.

- CR should have tested all phones -- Because testing the 3GS and the iphone 4, and only having dropped calls and bad reception on the 4 is not a good enough test. Sure the 3GS was better in certain situations where the 4 fails, but we only want to compare it to other inferior smart phones.
 
the sheer amount of illogical posts here unfortunately represents the mindset of the typical apple fan these days. how times have changed.

Well duh. The funny thing is that there are all the people complaining about people complaining about their reception problems.

If ur phone works just fine, why dont u guys shut up and let the people who dont have working phones get their issues resolved? Does their complaining hurt u somehow? Does their complaining make ur phone work any less?

Because of these people complaining everyone gets a free case or bumper, and I bet all u people who said "no my phone works just fine" are like ooh I want a free case or bumper too :rolleyes:
 
why is this front page news? how is this news at all? apple didn't fix the problem. if consumer reports suddenly recommended the iPhone because they now offer a free case, their credibility would be as much as a joke as apple's

the sheer amount of illogical posts here unfortunately represents the mindset of the typical apple fan these days. how times have changed.

THIS IS NON-ISSUE - I am not sure how else to explain this! If what Steve says does not make sense to you, you should stop using smart phones all together. Any possible redesign will be faced with the same fact - any phone antenna attenuates when you come in touch with it. If it will be fully isolated inside the phone, it will not receive any signal hence you will not be able to call at all. So the trade-off is to put it close to the surface of the phone. But then you grip and loose bars. There is no way around it. End of story.
 
Good for you! One less Iphone hater

I don't hate the iphone, and I don't ever recall saying that.... Hey, I got this new game I want to market.. it's called "Jump to conclusions"....

You see, it's this mat with a bunch of conclusions on it.......
 
I believe Apple has done the right thing. The device isn't defective. I actually believe Apple will come out of this looking better now. The iPhone 4 with a bumper/case is still the best smart phone on the market.

Bumper makes the iphone look like crap. I don't want icrap.

And no, I'm not returning my phone. I put the luckylab decal on the sides...no more issue and the phone still looks like an iphone.
 
THIS IS NON-ISSUE - I am not sure how else to explain this! If what Steve says does not make sense to you, you should stop using smart phones all together. Any possible redesign will be faced with the same fact - any phone antenna attenuates when you come in touch with it. If it will be fully isolated inside the phone, it will not receive any signal hence you will not be able to call at all. So the trade-off is to put it close to the surface of the phone. But then you grip and loose bars. There is no way around it. End of story.

Why can't I reproduce the issue on my Iphone 3G? If you can explain that, I'm a happy camper!
 
Q: Who death grips their phone when making a call?

A: Hardly anyone, it's not comfortable and it doesn't allow you to hear or speak as clearly.

Think this might be why so few have reported issues to Apple and so few have returned the phone?


Don't like the Death Grip problem? Don't buy one. That's not enough for you? Get a freakin' life. It's just a phone for christ's sake...

Of course, you could always buy a Droid, which doorstops itself if you modify it. Oh wait, that story was blown way out of proportion, too...

And droids have problems with death grips, too...


Solution: Hold phone normally. Make calls. Surf net. Go on with life.



Why can't I reproduce the issue on my Iphone 3G? If you can explain that, I'm a happy camper!

It's not reproducible if you have a strong signal. And the death grip for the older phone is different.
 
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