so you're saying all that antenna b******t is gizmodos' revenge?
I say it very well could be the true
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Consumer Reports Still Not Recommending iPhone 4
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so you're saying all that antenna b******t is gizmodos' revenge?
I say it very well could be the true
I'm still not having any trouble with mine.
I kid you not. When I give my phone the so-called "Death Grip" I actually gain a bar.
I'm sorry that some people some where are having trouble with theirs, but I truthfully have not been having the same troubles.
I kid you not. When I give my phone the so-called "Death Grip" I actually gain a bar.
I'm sorry that some people some where are having trouble with theirs, but I truthfully have not been having the same troubles.
The queer part with the Consumer Reports blog is that their test results (the part that should count) is a "Paid Only" access. With CR happily blogging their opinions on a But Recommendation and pulling in the strong publicity they should, at a minimum, provide their full report, including comparisons with other brands.
You are missing the point. The idea with all of this is the problem is so large that EVERYONE is having antenna, and reception issues. Haven't you been paying attention to the internet? However the cold hard truth, as presented by Apple, and millions of users is that the phone works great out in the wild, and the problems are far less greater than CR, and the internet would have you believe. You are ignorant to the truth if you still believe this is a pressing issue plaguing all iPhone users. I'm a day 1 iPhone 4 user with no problems, and not 1 dropped call. Faster internet speeds than on my 3g as well.
Aparently three million+ people do not give a crap Bout you or cr, still purchase the phone, and enjoy all the goodies within...
Heard about the bumble bee that experts said could/should not flight?
But I know there is a problem. I saw it for myself. Are you saying I'm lying?
The only people that won't admit this is a big issue is:
- Apple (who went on to compare their phone to others to say they're all the same -- What happened to Apple being superior?). And let's not forget they showed bars and not a drop in reception which is exactly what the iphone 4 does immediately in my location, and the 3G didn't.
- Apple fans who don't have the issue and therefore conclude it's not an issue or is not a major issue.
i said that a SMART person would put a case on their iPhone. who cares if you have never dropped your phone? I never dropped mine either but i still had a case on it. I think even if you are (as you put it) "stupid" you should put a case on your iPhone and if someone is not pleased with their purchase then they should return it. Have YOU ever made a phone??? if so is it perfect?
I don't use a case and have never dropped an iphone (3+ years). Are you saying I'm stupid because you prefer to use a case, or because you have a tendency of dropping your phone and need to protect it?
I would consider myself at least average in intelligence, but I guess not smart enough to use a case
Whats up with you being an ass hole, I never said I don't like the new iPhone. I'm just saying that I don't know why people are bitching about this stupid consumer reports review. I also don't know why anybody believes it should be changed after todays press conf
And you're missing the point that EVERY iPhone 4 DOES have this issue.
It may not be appearing at your place or where you use the phone due to your skin conditions, how much salinity is on the surface and in your hand/fingers, and based on what frequency, tower, equipment at the tower, etc. is being used.
You cannot change the laws of physics, regardless if you're seeing the issue or not. The attenuation of the iPhone 4 IS REAL and DOES exist, even if you cannot replicate it on your phone in your current position. I've actually had the problem come and go in the exact same spot in my house on different days, even in different hours of the day. It seems completely random. But it HAPPENS. This cannot be refuted. As I stated, it is physics, pure and simple.
Hmm I guess you think Apple and Steve Jobs aren't too SMART either than, since they decided not to include or think the iPhone 4 needed a bumper or casefrom the factory...
Just saying...
Yeah, so if I don't put a case on my phone, I'm not smart. What's the opposite of smart?
If I said, "If you were smart, you wouldn't drive drunk". Could you conclude that I would think you're stupid to drive drunk? I think so.
I'm glad you have a case on your phone -- Congrats!! Do you want a cookie? Does that mean I should have a case too? I have long curly hair so everyone should have long curly hair!
I did return my phone, but thanks for the recommendation. Does that mean I still can't complain? I like iphones and I want it to work for me so I can have one again.
I have never made a phone, but what the hell does that have to do with anything? Making a phone isn't easy, so I should just deal with major flaws? Get real!
You're ridiculous
Well um, they do want traffic so, yeah. They will report what's hot and get people to their sites. Not saying its WRONG because its their job but it is what it is. Plain and simple.
"Return rates through AT&T for iPhone 4 are at 1.7%"
So this doesn't includes return rate through Apple stores?
So this doesn't includes return rate through Apple stores?
There have been many things that Consumer Reports said not to buy, things which I had already purchased and MANY of them worked just fine and lasted quite a while. For instance I have a Panasonic Microwave Oven that has given me many, many years of service, even though they did not recommend buying it. It's a crap shoot at times, and they have been wrong on many occasions, so technically speaking they can go suck and egg.
So, what is your point? If you don't like the iphone (if you even have one) TAKE IT BACK, and if you haven't bought one then please DON'T because there is a tiny weensy chance that you will actually like it, and then what would you do?
The pedals caught on the floormats was a separate, unrelated issue which occurred months before the alleged unintended acceleration issue.
From the Associated Press:
NEW YORK – The Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of black boxes in Toyota vehicles involved in accidents blamed on unintended acceleration, finding the throttles were open and the brakes were not engaged, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.
That suggests that drivers of the speeding cars were stepping on the accelerator rather than hitting the brakes. The vehicles investigated came from a sample in which the drivers said they were braking but failed to stop the car before crashing, the newspaper said, citing unnamed sources familiar with the findings.
Transportation Department officials declined to confirm the report and did not comment. Toyota spokesman Mike Michels said the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has not shared its findings with the Japanese automaker but said their own findings from investigations of unintended acceleration are consistent with the report.
The black boxes, called event data recorders, are devices that track a number of details about a vehicle around the time of an accident, including which pedals were applied and how fast the car was traveling.
Toyota has recalled more than 8.5 million vehicles worldwide since last fall due to faulty accelerators, floor mats that may trap gas pedals, and brake problems in Priuses, among other problems. The largest problems were due to unintended acceleration, which the automaker has sought to address by fixing the gas pedals and floor mats.
The government has said unintended acceleration in Toyotas may have been involved in the deaths of 93 people over the past decade. The agency has received about 3,000 complaints of sudden acceleration in Toyotas.
Daniel Smith, NHTSA's associate administrator for enforcement, told a panel with the National Academy of Sciences reviewing unintended acceleration last month that the agency had not yet found any defects beyond the two problems cited by Toyota: pedals that can become entrapped by floor mats and sticking accelerator pedals.
From the Associated Press:
NEW YORK – The Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of black boxes in Toyota vehicles involved in accidents blamed on unintended acceleration, finding the throttles were open and the brakes were not engaged, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.
That suggests that drivers of the speeding cars were stepping on the accelerator rather than hitting the brakes. The vehicles investigated came from a sample in which the drivers said they were braking but failed to stop the car before crashing, the newspaper said, citing unnamed sources familiar with the findings.
Transportation Department officials declined to confirm the report and did not comment. Toyota spokesman Mike Michels said the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has not shared its findings with the Japanese automaker but said their own findings from investigations of unintended acceleration are consistent with the report.
The black boxes, called event data recorders, are devices that track a number of details about a vehicle around the time of an accident, including which pedals were applied and how fast the car was traveling.
Toyota has recalled more than 8.5 million vehicles worldwide since last fall due to faulty accelerators, floor mats that may trap gas pedals, and brake problems in Priuses, among other problems. The largest problems were due to unintended acceleration, which the automaker has sought to address by fixing the gas pedals and floor mats.
The government has said unintended acceleration in Toyotas may have been involved in the deaths of 93 people over the past decade. The agency has received about 3,000 complaints of sudden acceleration in Toyotas.
Daniel Smith, NHTSA's associate administrator for enforcement, told a panel with the National Academy of Sciences reviewing unintended acceleration last month that the agency had not yet found any defects beyond the two problems cited by Toyota: pedals that can become entrapped by floor mats and sticking accelerator pedals.
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Darn. All the grandparents of America are now wondering what an iPhone is so they can be sure not to buy one. Honestly, even if my iPhone 4 did have the signal problem, which it doesn't, it would still be a non-issue because I'm not dumb enough to not use a case with my $600 glass phone! If you are dumb enough, well, you get what you deserve.
Darn. All the grandparents of America are now wondering what an iPhone is so they can be sure not to buy one. Honestly, even if my iPhone 4 did have the signal problem, which it doesn't, it would still be a non-issue because I'm not dumb enough to not use a case with my $600 glass phone! If you are dumb enough, well, you get what you deserve.
in Q&A session they said it was less than AT&T's rate, but they didn't give exact number though
Finally somebody who gets it. You do not need to grapple your phone like a primate or apply white-knuckle crushing force to make this happen.
re: bias
If it can be proven that every other phone has a weak spot, and that it can be shown (similar to Apple's demonstration), Consumer Reports might be liable for defamation and loss of sales due to releasing biased consumer advice.
They must put all other phones through the same test before singling out the iPhone 4.
All that being said, I wonder if it was too tough to have put this particular antenna on the top or bottom of the phone...it would have been much less likely to cover it up with the palm of someone's hand. There must not have been quite enough room.
If it can be proven that every other phone has a weak spot, and that it can be shown (similar to Apple's demonstration), Consumer Reports might be liable for defamation and loss of sales due to releasing biased consumer advice.
They must put all other phones through the same test before singling out the iPhone 4.
All that being said, I wonder if it was too tough to have put this particular antenna on the top or bottom of the phone...it would have been much less likely to cover it up with the palm of someone's hand. There must not have been quite enough room.
