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Consumer Reports Still Not Recommending iPhone 4
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It beats teaching abstinencewhy would they? apple did not fix the phone, they put a silly rubber around it
Dilettantes
The staff at CR could loosely be called journalists. They sure as hell are not engineers. As for anything mechanical, they are just a bunch of dilettantes.
Their concept of whether or not a test is scientific is whether the other five journalist/dilettantes in the room agree that the test might be good.
They do not have an anechoic chamber - they probably don't even know what anechoic means. Apple has, what, 17? At a cost of, what, $100 Million? And how many degreed engineers to use them?
I came to the conclusion that Consumer Reports was full of $h!t years ago... when I bought Ford pickup truck against their advice. Because the two previous Toyotas I bought (an '85 and an '89) weren't so great. The Ford pickup I bought has lasted 10 years longer than the Toyotas, and it's got 350K miles on the original engine and transmission, and even the original refrigerant in the air conditioning system. The only difference was that Toyota sent me reams of junk mail telling me to "vote them all fives" after I bought, and Ford only sent me mail stating they were ready to help if there were any problems. They Toyotas croaked. The poorly-rated Ford is still going 14 years later, no thanks to CR's lousy $h!t advice.
Stupid a$$holes at CR apparently voted Toyota "all fives" just like the junk mail told them to. Stupid a$$hole dilettantes, they are apparently susceptible to hype, like junk mail and idiotic bloggers -why?- because they are not scientists. They are journalists. And they are stupid fu*ks trying to be relevant. No offense to real journalists, by the way.
The staff at CR could loosely be called journalists. They sure as hell are not engineers. As for anything mechanical, they are just a bunch of dilettantes.
Their concept of whether or not a test is scientific is whether the other five journalist/dilettantes in the room agree that the test might be good.
They do not have an anechoic chamber - they probably don't even know what anechoic means. Apple has, what, 17? At a cost of, what, $100 Million? And how many degreed engineers to use them?
I came to the conclusion that Consumer Reports was full of $h!t years ago... when I bought Ford pickup truck against their advice. Because the two previous Toyotas I bought (an '85 and an '89) weren't so great. The Ford pickup I bought has lasted 10 years longer than the Toyotas, and it's got 350K miles on the original engine and transmission, and even the original refrigerant in the air conditioning system. The only difference was that Toyota sent me reams of junk mail telling me to "vote them all fives" after I bought, and Ford only sent me mail stating they were ready to help if there were any problems. They Toyotas croaked. The poorly-rated Ford is still going 14 years later, no thanks to CR's lousy $h!t advice.
Stupid a$$holes at CR apparently voted Toyota "all fives" just like the junk mail told them to. Stupid a$$hole dilettantes, they are apparently susceptible to hype, like junk mail and idiotic bloggers -why?- because they are not scientists. They are journalists. And they are stupid fu*ks trying to be relevant. No offense to real journalists, by the way.
Oh, and I can hold mine any way that I want with no signal issues
Hold what? If you can hold it any way you want it must not be an iPhone 4.
Love the iPhone4. Had the antenna issue. Bought a bumper. Problem solved. Phone is great. Yes would be nice if they did a redesign to eliminate the problem and eventually they will.......to repeat what's been said a lot already....it just a phone! BTW, Consumer Reports rates the iPhone4 at the top but does not recommend it???? Yeah whatever. I have found them to be marginally useful when buying stuff like DVD players and TVs. I wonder how many people actually care what they think about smart phones?
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It really is a shame. $100 million and the phone's antenna doesn't work.
rhanly has no life. he is only here toannoy the crap out of people. Cyber bully.
Consumer Reports has a lot to say the obvious minority of people having an issue. So after thinking on this, I can chalk this up as an example of how NOT listening to these clowns has benefited my decisions. I love my iPhone 4. If I followed their recommendation I wouldn't own it.
Steve said hard data many times today. In fact it was the phrase I heard most. I want some hard data in regards to how many people didn't buy an iPhone 4 based upon Consumer Reports advice. After we count the zeros to the right of the decimal and figure out what thousandth of a percent it is, we can petition their abolishment from the newsstand.
Blonde Buddhist
Steve said hard data many times today. In fact it was the phrase I heard most. I want some hard data in regards to how many people didn't buy an iPhone 4 based upon Consumer Reports advice. After we count the zeros to the right of the decimal and figure out what thousandth of a percent it is, we can petition their abolishment from the newsstand.
Blonde Buddhist
At least CR shows you the phone display in its test methodology. Also, Apple has a stake in if you believing them, CR does not. Clicking them does not help them gain revenue, since they don't do ads to stay impartial.
Also, just because a lab looks big and impressive means nothing if those doing the testing have an agenda to save Apple BILLIONS.
haha!!! I am totally cool. Is Tattle Tale name calling?
Really?
If that was name calling, then you haven't been following these forums very closely.
That was playful poking
I've had every iphone since the the first in 2007. They were all the best until this piece POS.
the 3gs was selling continuously throughout said year. so even if folks were complaining or returning it, the total units is changing and thus the rate could still be close to the same.
Not what he said at all. He said that the iphone 4 drops one more call per 100 than the 3gs. So if, for example, the 3gs dropped an average of 1 call in 100, the 4 drops 2.
And as a friend of mine pointed out. the iphone 4 sales have been so huge compared to the 3gs etc that one has to wonder if that is part of the issue.
As he put it. Take an empty room, said your living room. Put two people at opposite corners. Have them talk at their normal voices. They can likely hear each other fine. Now add two more people talking to each other. It's a little harder to hear. Add two more. Then more, then more, then more. The more people in the room, the harder it is for those two people in the corners to hear.
Thats basically congestion in a cell tower. In some areas, iphone 4 sales may have doubled the iphones in the area. And there were already quite a few 3gs people, and non iphone people in the room.
According to the information I have seen, Apple didn't write the algorithm. ATT provided it to them. And they never had reason to question it until all this hype. They looked and saw that the numbers were as good as they could or should be. So Apple corrected the issue.
But understand, the bars are not now and have never been about reception. They are about signal strength or basically distance to a tower. They don't read how congested the tower is.
And just how many people did you survey to come up with that conclusion. ANd was it purely random or did you go to place you know have tons of Apple Haters and merely ask them if the press conference changed their hate.
Seriously your assumption is as bad as Consumer Reports study of 3 iphones to determine that the whole line is totally flawed.
Apple has said there is no issue. So anyone who didn't call Applecare when they claim their phone does not work is dumb.
Agreed. This is a much bigger goldmine than Giz found with its stolen iP4. And CR does have a history of distorting test results of notable new models to boost subscriptions.
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Yeah, why not trust the testing of the manufacturer of a flawed product over the testing of an independent source. With that 100 million lab, how did they miss this flaw during all that high-tech testing ? This flaw was first discovered in less then 24 hours by it's customers. I guess there is no need for the FDA to approve drugs either. We should just trust the opinion and testing of the drug manufacturer.
And here I thought Consumer Reports was just looking out for my well being. I can't believe they want to actually sell magazines!
/sarcasm
And so is Apple. This "bad press" over a fairly insignificant problem will probably cause more total iPhones to be sold over the long run. Even with Apple's cash, it's hard to buy this much PR attention.