Ok, so I have 30 days to cancel the service contract without ETF as long as I haven't activated yet? Ok - I'm going straight to AT&T today to cancel this thing. I want Apple to sort out the antenna along with proximity sensor issue to my complete satisfaction before I plunk down $200 and $80/month on a service plan. We'll see.
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Consumer Reports Still Not Recommending iPhone 4
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You have 30 days from the time you start service (which happens to be the day you ordered the phone) to cancel and not have to pay ETF.
I pre-ordered on June 15th. Received and activated my phone on June 23rd.
The date I received from *NEW# call is 11.22.2011. This would appear that the 30 day clock begins when the phone is received or activated. Probably when received, but since my received date and activation date are the same, I can't tell the difference.
I am in no way interested in returning this phone. I am not having any signal issues and am receiving better reception than my previous 3G.
That's a relief, I thought I was locked in for 2 years in AT&T and would have to get a Samsung Captivate.
Well that would mean they had your new contract date as 6/21/2010. That seems quite a lot later than the the other 15th orders for AT&T at least (we've seen from the 14th to the 18th). Where you a brand new customer.
I have the corner covered and its doing ok, my big problem right now is the BlueTooth - it just randomly disconnects and reconnects and is very broken up when in use. I've tried my current and 2 legacy earpieces and its the same. Its like it doesn't have the range to get from your pants pocket to your ear - if I hold the phone up near my ear I get better reception...
It's like Apple spent all their time perfecting the retina display, making the UI snappier and forgot to ensure quality with the wireless components.
I think it's stupid because I have never heard of anyone buying anything related to consumer reports. All they don is judge, I'd like to see them be as creative as apple and make something instead of just judging apple, like they even matter. Didnt the iPhone 4 sell like a few million already? Seriously consumer reports if you can do better than make something instead of judging on your high horse. Jobs showed us that this problem happens in many other phones, so if you don't want an iPhone, like the song says, than don't buy one and if you do and it don't work, just bring it back. That's the way it works with everything else. At least apple is actually trying to fix the issue.
I think it's stupid because I have never heard of anyone buying anything related to consumer reports. All they don is judge, I'd like to see them be as creative as apple and make something instead of just judging apple, like they even matter. Didnt the iPhone 4 sell like a few million already? Seriously consumer reports if you can do better than make something instead of judging on your high horse. Jobs showed us that this problem happens in many other phones, so if you don't want an iPhone, like the song says, than don't buy one and if you do and it don't work, just bring it back. That's the way it works with everything else. At least apple is actually trying to fix the issue.
Sorry dude, but attacking the messenger is not going to work this time. Consumer Reports is THE most respected consumer product review service out there. If they say not to buy the IP4 because it's defective that means something. It's not an issue of being on a "high horse", I just don't want to use a defective device and be anxious about "holding it the wrong way". But sure, keep on fanboying.
More like they made an engineering decision that when moving the antenna to the outside of the device, the improved overall reception outweighed the increased signal attenuation from touching the device in one specific place. All reviews I have read have agreed that antenna performance is improved overall. Apple simply misjudged which issue would be a bigger concern to the average consumer.It's like Apple spent all their time perfecting the retina display, making the UI snappier and forgot to ensure quality with the wireless components.
This will likely also be a tradeoff of putting the phone in a case. The attenuation issue will be reduced, but so will overall antenna performance.
The bottom line is, with current technology, antenna performance is limited by whatever the antenna has to transmit through, whether it is the casing or whatever surfaces an external antenna comes in contact with. As strange as it may sound, SJ's suggestion to hold the device in a different way may be the best advice to get the best possible reception from your phone.
One final note: it may be possible to boost the power sent to the antenna when the signal attenuates. This may allow Apple to address this issue with a firmware update, but this would entail a tradeoff with battery life. So, as you can see, engineering decisions are never just "put in a better antenna"; there is always a price to pay in terms of some other attribute of the device, and you must decide what engineering cost you are prepared to pay for the desired result.
People attacking Consumer Reports are making a big mistake. CR has found major defects in automobiles for years and have forced car manufacturers around the world to correct safety problems. They matter, and all major companies know it.
Even if Apple has a better testing lab (you know, the $100 million dollar thing + 18 engineers with PhDs) than CR, they don't have an unbiased agenda.
Everyone will be better off when Apple actually responds to CR and fixes the iP4.
Even if Apple has a better testing lab (you know, the $100 million dollar thing + 18 engineers with PhDs) than CR, they don't have an unbiased agenda.
Everyone will be better off when Apple actually responds to CR and fixes the iP4.
All you are doing is making an argument for why the new antenna design should have remained in testing as a prototype. I think people would rather have less average reception, but not have the death-grip issue then obsessing about avoiding the gap. Most consumers are pretty finicky about that kind of thing. I think Steve Jobs also realized it - he sounded pretty defeated during the PC.
They were invited to the press conference. You know, this cartoon image of Apple has really got to be dropped. Gizmodo wasn't asked. Consumer Reports matters.
Aside from worshiping Apple, do any of you have lives? Jobs? Families?
It's just a freaking phone peeps.
It's just a freaking phone peeps.
Aren't you here reading and posting as well? Where's your life and family?
Or is it possible that its okay for people to spend their free time reading and posting in forums? Call me crazy... but...
It's the freaking weekend, it's not a freaking phone it's a computer that makes calls, my family is upset because I have an iPhone4 and they still have to use a 3GS.
I think it's stupid because I have never heard of anyone buying anything related to consumer reports. All they don is judge, I'd like to see them be as creative as apple and make something instead of just judging apple, like they even matter. Didnt the iPhone 4 sell like a few million already? Seriously consumer reports if you can do better than make something instead of judging on your high horse. Jobs showed us that this problem happens in many other phones, so if you don't want an iPhone, like the song says, than don't buy one and if you do and it don't work, just bring it back. That's the way it works with everything else. At least apple is actually trying to fix the issue.
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MacinDoc said:
I can see it now:
AppleCare: "Hello, Applecare how can I help you?".
Customer :"ya my battery life stinks sometimes"
AppleCare :"sir, it sounds like you may be holding it wrong"
Angry Birds is great for killing time, but clearly this thread requires less thought.
I'm not defending Apple's choice, merely explaining that a choice had to be made. At the time, SJ thought that the external antenna was the right choice, but now I wonder whether he regrets that decision.
Of course, with a case, you can have an iP4 that is functionally as it would have been with an internal antenna. The difference is, of course, the effect of the case on the appearance of the device.