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I don't get it? Apple didn't actually fix the antenna problem, so why is it such a shock that CR still doesn't recommend it? Free cases till the end of September is hardly a long-term fix they can go recommending to their readers.
 
Speaking like a true :apple: apologist. What lies have been made against :apple: and by who?

Here's one for ya:

Apple has sold 3 million units based on lies.

Others:

"iPhone 4 is incapable of making a call"

"iPhone 4 is a total failure"

"iPhone 4 can't hold a signal"

"iPhone 4 can't hold a call"


the list goes on....

Mind you, the majority of them made are based on the experience of bloggers who don't own one.
 
Apple has sold 3 million units based on lies. "Don't be evil" remember.

:cool:

Drama much?

Well, the cards are on the table. The media was so full of the Antenna Issue that even the most isolated Eskimo must have heard of it. Let's see if the sales of the iPhone 4 will slow down significantly or already bought iPhone will be returned in masses. I bet a beer and a burger (or some IKEA meetballs if you wish) that both won't happen :)

But my prediction is, that in future will see more of those overhyped media blowouts. The more successful Apple becomes, the more it will be in the center of the media. And lots of Techbloggers or Journalists will ride the bandwagon for some minutes of fame, trying to fault their products.

What amazes me most, though, that people seem to be so full of anger here on this forum. About what exactly? About some computer stuff? More amazingly exactly those people often refer to the iPods, iPhones, etc as the iToys or iCrap, bla bla... I really dunno, but I find it hard to believe that people can get so upset then about some "toys". Reading through various threads one could get the impression that some are so filled with hatred, that they can't even think or walk straight anymore.

Then, of course, we have those individuals who are just here to stir and bait. People who call themselves grown ups but for years already basically contributing negativity here in MR. Every normal and sensible person would come to the conclusion, that if you don't like a company, its values, its products, etc, you would move on and find a more suitable forum. If I liked BMW, I wouldn't waste my time in a Mercedes Benz Forum. But that issue, particularly about one "famous" individual here, has been raised or questioned on many occasions by countless forum members before and shall remain a mystery :rolleyes:
 
Drama much?

Well, the cards are on the table. The media was so full of the Antenna Issue that even the most isolated Eskimo must have heard of it. Let's see if the sales of the iPhone 4 will slow down significantly or already bought iPhone will be returned in masses. I bet a beer and a burger (or some IKEA meetballs if you wish) that both won't happen :)

But my prediction is, that in future will see more of those overhyped media blowouts. The more successful Apple becomes, the more it will be in the center of the media. And lots of Techbloggers or Journalists will ride the bandwagon for some minutes of fame, trying to fault their products.

What amazes me most, though, that people seem to be so full of anger here on this forum. About what exactly? About some computer stuff? More amazingly exactly those people often refer to the iPods, iPhones, etc as the iToys or iCrap, bla bla... I really dunno, but I find it hard to believe that people can get so upset then about some "toys". Reading through various threads one could get the impression that some are so filled with hatred, that they can't even think or walk straight anymore.

Then, of course, we have those individuals who are just here to stir and bait. People who call themselves grown ups but for years already basically contributing negativity here in MR. Every normal and sensible person would come to the conclusion, that if you don't like a company, its values, its products, etc, you would move on and find a more suitable forum. If I liked BMW, I wouldn't waste my time in a Mercedes Benz Forum. But that issue, particularly about one "famous" individual here, has been raised or questioned on many occasions by countless forum members before and shall remain a mystery :rolleyes:

Absolutely right, in every word.
In a couple of days, Apple will open iPhone 4 to another 17 big markets. And it will be another huge commercial success. But haters are not going to change their mind about that, even if 10 mln customers are going to enjoy their iPhone 4 without bring it back.
 
"iPhone 4 is incapable of making a call"

"iPhone 4 is a total failure"

"iPhone 4 can't hold a signal"

"iPhone 4 can't hold a call"


the list goes on....

Mind you, the majority of them made are based on the experience of bloggers who don't own one.

Hadn't :apple: already sold 3 million units before Consumer Reports?

:apple: lied to us during the keynote on how great their new antenna was. They already knew about "the flaw" but neglected to tell us, the PC proves they knew. :apple: then lied to us again during the PC when they compared the iP4 to those other phones, they knew very well that those phones don't suffer from "the flaw".
 
Hadn't :apple: already sold 3 million units before Consumer Reports?

:apple: lied to us during the keynote on how great their new antenna was. They already knew about "the flaw" but neglected to tell us, the PC proves they knew. :apple: then lied to us again during the PC when they compared the iP4 to those other phones, they knew very well that those phones don't suffer from "the flaw".

Do you own an iPhone 4?
 
Hadn't :apple: already sold 3 million units before Consumer Reports?

:apple: lied to us during the keynote on how great their new antenna was. They already knew about "the flaw" but neglected to tell us, the PC proves they knew. :apple: then lied to us again during the PC when they compared the iP4 to those other phones, they knew very well that those phones don't suffer from "the flaw".

Except there is no flaw, antenna actually IS more sensible than any previous and other phones, almost EVERY OTHER, show the same behavior .... and you probably don't have an iPhone 4 ;)
 
Name ONE other (smart) phone with a bare antenna, exposed to be touched by the user. Just one. Or are you just a troll? :confused:

and exactly WHO decides a bare antenna is a defect ? Do you know what "signal to noise ratio" means ? Probably not ...
Do you think to be smarter than 18 RF engineers working at that "defective bare antenna" ?

The same behavior is present on almost every smartphone, and they don't have an exposed antenna.
So, again, there is NO FLAW to be fixed. It's a trade off, and in my experience with the iphone 4 you can actually make calls in places where other phones (3GS) just can't.

And what about your iphone 4 ? Don't tell me you too don't have one ... :rolleyes:

BTW nice try to call me a troll, when a 5 seconds research about YOUR post here show us what is your attitude AGAINST Apple and Jobs ;)
 
and exactly WHO decides a bare antenna is a defect ? Do you know what "signal to noise ratio" means ? Probably not ...
Do you think to be smarter than 18 RF engineers working at that "defective bare antenna" ?

The same behavior is present on almost every smartphone, and they don't have an exposed antenna.
So, again, there is NO FLAW to be fixed. It's a trade off, and in my experience with the iphone 4 you can actually make calls in places where other phones (3GS) just can't.

When you specifically have to obsess every moment about NOT touching that gap, it's a FLAW. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
When you specifically have to obsess every moment about NOT touching that gap, it's a FLAW. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

uao, another "june/july 2010 guy" who can't avoid to touch THAT EXACT SPOT on his phone .... :D

Do you own an iphone 4 ? I can assure you it's not that difficult to avoid that. Actually the only way to touch it, in my case, is ON PURPOSE ...
 
uao, another "june/july 2010 guy" who can't avoid to touch THAT EXACT SPOT on his phone .... :D

Do you own an iphone 4 ? I can assure you it's not that difficult to avoid that. Actually the only way to touch it, in my case, is ON PURPOSE ...

I own two. It's ridiculously easy to touch it in that spot. It's nearly impossible NOT to when using the 3G data connection. Steve Jobs holds it that way in every photo of him holding the phone.

Quit making stuff up.
 
I own two. It's ridiculously easy to touch it in that spot. It's nearly impossible NOT to when using the 3G data connection. Steve Jobs holds it that way in every photo of him holding the phone.

Quit making stuff up.

It's not easy at all, ESPECIALLY when using "3G data connection" because you need the finger to be free to travel around the screen.

Quit whining about a non-issue
 
And yet millions of people don't care what what Consumer Reports said and continue buying the phone like there's no tomorrow.
 
It's not easy at all, ESPECIALLY when using "3G data connection" because you need the finger to be free to travel around the screen.

Quit whining about a non-issue

That is only true if you hold it in your right hand. If you hold it in your left you can have a problem.
 
That is only true if you hold it in your right hand. If you hold it in your left you can have a problem.

This is how i handle it, with my left hand:

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Fingertips, NOT palm. No way I can touch that spot if I don't want to.
BTW, people could handle it in a different way, I know (I'm speaking about honest customer, not the trolls all over the forum), so the choice is quite simple: could you change the way you hold it? Ok, easy to do and you will have a great smartphone.
Couldn't you ? Ok, bring it back to the store and choose another smartphone. But be advised: if you hold it with the palm, you are going to see attenuation with almost every smartphone out there.
 
And yet millions of people don't care what what Consumer Reports said and continue buying the phone like there's no tomorrow.

Next week there will be others millions of people don't even know what Consumer Report is, in the new 17 countries Apple is going to release iPhone 4. :D
 
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