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when I checked the website (apple) they said i would get standard iphone upgrade after 7/12/09. Does that mean I can qualify for an upgraded for the 199/299 pricing?

You will be eligible for the 199/299 price on or after July 12th of this year. Currently you are eligible for the 399/499 price. But hey, you are better off than most of the whiners on here.
 
when I checked the website (apple) they said i would get standard iphone upgrade after 7/12/09. Does that mean I can qualify for an upgraded for the 199/299 pricing?

Same date here,

What's to stop one from pre-ordering one or picking up a 3GS on June19th. then returning it on or after upgrade date of 7/12/09 and getting the cheaper price within the 30days.
 
Can someone explain this? The first iPhone that came out in the UK was unsubbed. It was £275 odd.

To buy the iPhone 3GS PAYG in the UK is £540 odd. Why has the price of the device doubled? I know it has more memory and better internals but still, double the price?

£279 with an 18 month contract, EXACTLY the same price as the 3GS is now?! Your point?
 
Same date here,

What's to stop one from pre-ordering one or picking up a 3GS on June19th. then returning it on or after upgrade date of 7/12/09 and getting the cheaper price within the 30days.

You cant wait a friggen month!!?? That's crap! You'll pay more now and then a restocking fee. And if its used wont be able to return it.
 
i love the HURR THIS IS THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS HURRRRR READ YOUR CONTRACT simpletons.

most people are upset that there are wildly differing dates - from 7/2009 to 12/2009 to 3/2010 or later - and those dates DO NOT always comport with what AT&T guidelines are regarding length of contract, contract expiration date, and amount of monthly bill. there are people on this forum that have two identical separate plans with different dates. there are people on this forum that bought an UNSUBSIDIZED iPhone 3G and are unable to get 199/299 prices.

it's about inconsistency and that sort of unfairness first and foremost.

now come tell me how HURR I NEED TO READ A CONTRACT HURR.
 
What about original iPhone customers? I didn't get the iPhone 3G when it came out and decided to wait for the next version, so where does that place people like me in AT&T's food chain, do we get the deal or not?
 
I am not sure how there can be any confusion on the pricing when you can go to either the Apple or AT&T site, choose either new or existing subscriber, if exisiting give some info and your current pricing pops up along with a future subsidy date. People signed a contract for 2 years, consider yourself lucky if you recieve any subsiby before the 2 year agreement you signed expires. Don't worry about what others are paying, look at YOUR price, if you think the phone is worth it, then buy it, if not, don't.

You are so right. The site tells one both the current price and the date on which can get the standard subsidized price. Thanks for pointing this out!

Meanwhile, I still enjoy my current iPhone very much and may or may not upgrade when my date rolls around, but I hardly think with all that goes on in the world it's worth complaining about not being able to upgrade right away. I know we're not supposed to engage in ad hominem attacks, but some people are sounding like very spoiled children.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm sorry, but seriously! This is the reason I DID NOT upgrade my iPhone to a 3G model. I THOUGHT AHEAD. My contract has now expired and I'll get a 3GS model. YAY FOR ME!

If you couldn't wait, that's just tough. No one forced you to buy an iPhone 3G. Get over it.

And next year when Apple release the next iPhone you'll be in the same situation and stuck in the 18 month contract and we'll say - lol should have waited that extra year!
 
I took two posts to reply to although there are dozens of people who have no understanding of business. They assume companies are not out to make money…. If you were in business would you want to make money?? Did you never have a cell phone with an upgrade date in the past or were you b&%#tching then too!!!

What about those of us who bought a 3g last summer but did not get any form of subsity on the purchase because our current 2 year agreement had only a few months into it. I bought a 16GB 3g on july 11th for the full meal deal, not the $299 reduced price because only 10 months had gone by on my last contract. I was hoping to upgrade to the 3gs but now it looks like I will not be because there is no way that I'm paying another $599 for the voice and video features that have been added. I guess I will be waiting for the
3gxsffc (extra speed forward facing camera) version that will be released in 2010!

Here’s the first one: He states “What about those of us who bought a 3g last summer but did not get any form of subsity on the purchase because our current 2 year agreement had only a few months into it. I bought a 16GB 3g on july 11th for the full meal deal”

Lets see the phone’s full retail for the 16GB is $699.00….. You bought it on July 11th, 2008 for $499.99 as the $699.00 was not released until Late March 2009 so you did buy it for the subsidized price. New customers get it for $400 off and existing get one shot at $200 off then its full. You used your one shot at $200 off and thus now have to pay full retail. This is not that hard people!!!!

Ok here's what I'd like to know... I purchased an 2G on launch day (unsibsidized right?) and a 3G on launch day (subsidized), that adds up to almost 3 yrs of an ATT contract but only one subsidized phone. So why wouldn't I be eligible for the same subsidized pricing as someone at the end of a 2 yr or even 18 month contract. I think this is a very valid point. Sry if someone else already brought this up but I didn't see any post on this specific point.

You will be eligible after 2 years…. 2 years from when you got the 3g iphone. This is not hard….
 
I think 3GS sales will be a bust if the two companies can't work something out.

So...you think cell phone device sales are doomed under the current 2-year-contract subsidization system?

This phenomenon isn't exclusive to Apple/AT&T, you know.
 
i love the HURR THIS IS THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS HURRRRR READ YOUR CONTRACT simpletons.

most people are upset that there are wildly differing dates - from 7/2009 to 12/2009 to 3/2010 or later - and those dates DO NOT always comport with what AT&T guidelines are regarding length of contract, contract expiration date, and amount of monthly bill. there are people on this forum that have two identical separate plans with different dates. there are people on this forum that bought an UNSUBSIDIZED iPhone 3G and are unable to get 199/299 prices.

it's about inconsistency and that sort of unfairness first and foremost.

now come tell me how HURR I NEED TO READ A CONTRACT HURR.

And anyone in that situation has an honest complaint and should have something done for them.

Everyone else needs to grow up.
 
I don't know if this was mentioned before but here is my scenario.

I purchased an iPhone then upgrade to an iPhone 3G in August for $299. Now I will qualify for the iPhone 3G S at the $199/$299 price 12 months later. (This August)
My mother is new to AT&T and got an iPhone 3G, she now has to wait 18 months to get the full discount of the iPhone 3G S
 
Look at it this way. When the next version of the iphone comes out, presumabely this time next year, the 3G users WILL be able to upgrade to it. I also suspect Apple has taken this into consideration since the 3GS was really little more than a spec bump. I'm wondering if the release of a totally redesigned iphone will be timed for when the 3G customers contracts are up.

Of course, all the people who buy 3GS's will be the ones complaining because they can't upgrade to the new iphone.

Yes, I agree. This is becoming messy. Anyone who buys an iphone today will complain next year when the new iphone comes out.

Make the contracts one year long instead of two years.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm sorry, but seriously! This is the reason I DID NOT upgrade my iPhone to a 3G model. I THOUGHT AHEAD. My contract has now expired and I'll get a 3GS model. YAY FOR ME!

If you couldn't wait, that's just tough. No one forced you to buy an iPhone 3G. Get over it.

I have a friend who has been lookin to buy a new LCD tv for the last two years because he keeps saying the prices are dropping. Meanwhile I bought 2 LCDs in the last yr and have been enjoying them very much while he's still staring at his old tube waiting for prices to bottom out. That's great if you waited, maybe you should wait one more year and then you could post the same comment again.
 
Some CLARITY from AT&T would be nice.

My dad and I both bought original iPhones on opening day 2007 (same store), then we both upgraded to 3G last September (same store). We have identical (but unconnected) contracts: same text, voice & data plans.

My price for 32gig 3GS: $499

His price for 32gig 3GS: $699

Are they just flipping a coin? Pulling numbers out of a hat?

THIS is the BIG problem - complete lack of consistency on the "eligibility determination." And of course the other problem would be those whining about subsidies and expecting everything to be given to them.

Personally, I owned both the 2G and 3G iphones and now I will need to pay $399 instead of $199 for the 16 GB 3G S. I find that to be a fair price and if the faster processor improves performance on key applications for me then I will gladly pay the $200 difference without hesitation. For me though the purchase would be a tax write-off since I use the iphone daily for work.
 
Can anyone tell me if I can still use my iPhone 3G as sort of an ipod touch if I cancel my contract?

Thanks.

Well sort of. As long as you don't restore it.

Once it is restored it will lock itself.

If your gonna use it as a touch just jailbreak it.

Maybe you could use it on T-mobile if you want.
 
Stop moaning and Get the 3g(s)

Look instead of moaning go on Ebay or Craigslist sell your iPhone 3g and go online and pre-order the 3g(s).... Simple as that!!!

I posted my 8GB 3g iphone today and sold it within 5 hours!!! I posted it for $320 and had 15 replies... I sold it for $330.. Now I have a gift card for the rest but lets assume I didn't.

$399.00
$ 36.91 tax 9.25%
$ 18.00 upgrade fee (mine is waived but for math purposes)
--------
$453.91 (Total after phone, tax, upgrade fee if not waived)
-$330.00 (From Selling 8GB 3g)
---------
$123.91 Out Of Pocket for New 3g(s) phone..

How hard was that!!!!!!!!!!!

Instead of Bitching just make it happen... If anyone has an issue with $123.91 you shouldn't have an iphone.
 
I can't see Apple's sales being anywhere near as good compared to the 3g, there are not many customers out there that will go for the 3gs having never had the 3g. The majority of Apples customers will be those upgrading. I'm not saying they should just subsidise already tied-in customers, but it's not the best strategy.
 
I have a friend who has been lookin to buy a new LCD tv for the last two years because he keeps saying the prices are dropping. Meanwhile I bought 2 LCDs in the last yr and have been enjoying them very much while he's still staring at his old tube waiting for prices to bottom out. That's great if you waited, maybe you should wait one more year and then you could post the same comment again.

absolutely excellent response! i find it so humorous when people say they are waiting for a product purchase for years to "save money" - i guess that's what they tell themselves every day while they miss out on all of the benefits.

humans are sometimes so illogical...
 
I understand but,

I absolutely understand that when I got a subsidized phone I had to sign the 2 year contract and can't get out of it without paying. Not an issue.

What is an issue for me is that if I do pay off the contract (and then get a new 3GS by signing a new 2 yr contract) why can't I get the old iphone, fully paid off and owned by me, unlocked so that it has some value? It's now my phone, paid for in full by me but, it is still locked to ATT which seriously depreciates the value. If I had a similar deal with another phone, I'm pretty sure that at the end of the day, I could legally get it unlocked to use any way I wanted. I could sell it or figure out another way to use it.
That's something that would make me feel better. Frankly, it's only fair. Actually it is unreasonable and probably should be illegal for them not to do it.

I see a lot of BS class action lawsuits out there that are just stupid. This is one that makes sense and should be pursued.
 
I am surprised Apple let this happen.

Firstly, I understand why AT&T and O2 are doing this in line with how their mobile phone contract model works, which is fine IF this were just a mobile phone. Its not...

Its a platform for application vendors to put next gen mobile applications, the likes of which we haven't seen yet into the hands of, well, everyone. And Apple stands to punch that ticket each time an app is sold... The revenue stream for Apple is not solely the sale of the handsets, long term app sales will make more money than profit on the device. What this move has done has set the biggest app consumers (the fanboys) and early adopters up to NOT be on the latest hardware. This means the application vendors will be targeting the platform that most people have, the existing 3G model and not the new features of the 3GS. The platform will stall for at least 6 months. Enough of a window for something else to come along...

Think that wont happen? Well look... Apple themselves have said there are 40 million handsets out ther currently, a lot of people who are likely to want an iPhone, already have one. Most of them wont upgrade due to the contracts, and new customers wont exactly flood in. Add to that the fact that pretty much all 3G users (in the UK) are on the same length of contract, expiring at around the same time. If they arent going to buy themselves out of a contract, they arent likely to lock themselves in to another 18 month contract 6 months out from the potential launch of a new device. By any logic, the 3GS will be in far fewer hands than the 3G. No app vendor is going to want to limit their market, therefore the new features on the 3GS will not be exploited nearly as much as Apple would hope by app developers. Therefore stale platform... Better products have died because of similar issues.

This can only play into the hands of competing platforms.

Here is a final suggestion to O2 customers who are looking to upgrade... Consider buying phone insurance that includes contract / upgrade insurance. That way you can invoke the upgrade clause in your insurance policy when you need to get out of one contract in order to upgrade. The premiums cost less that the contract buy out so for situations like this it is perfect.

I can only imagine next time round, Apple and the carriers might work to align the release cycle with the pay-off of the phones since the last release. i.e. 18 months between releases or 12 month contracts.

I have pretty much decided to skip the 3GS at least until its more favorably priced or I can invoke my contract get out clause.

I agree with you completely. iphone 3Gs will suffer if favorable contracts are not offered to existing 3G owners to upgrade.
 
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gnortenjones said:
Look at it this way. When the next version of the iphone comes out, presumabely this time next year, the 3G users WILL be able to upgrade to it. I also suspect Apple has taken this into consideration since the 3GS was really little more than a spec bump. I'm wondering if the release of a totally redesigned iphone will be timed for when the 3G customers contracts are up.

Of course, all the people who buy 3GS's will be the ones complaining because they can't upgrade to the new iphone.

You are the first person that thinks clearly on here! Most people can't see past the shiny back of the 3GS and think that just live without your digital compas and wait until next year when your contract is up and the the new new iPhone that got an awesome upgrade
 
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