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Controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act Passes in Senate
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I did the Google-Fu for you:
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/ObamaBH.htm
The last veto was just 5 days ago, you should be more up to date...
I should've been more clear:I did the Google-Fu for you:
http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/ObamaBH.htm
The last veto was just 5 days ago, you should be more up to date...
CIA Barry has been vetoing bills that take away the rights of the people? Really?
Where? In Narnia?
I know this to be true. To keep this short, I worked for the US military at a place that inventoried wounded and deceased US service member's personal effects.
One part of that mission was to review all data on laptops, hard drives, phones, DVDs, and similar media. Occasionally, there would be things we couldn't crack, one of which was FileVault encrypted Apple stuff. We would send the uncrackable stuff to the FBI, but they told us to stop sending them the FileVault stuff because they couldn't get into it.
We would keep the stuff, trying combos of names, SS#, and other things to get it. We also asked the family members if they knew what it could be.
The family would not get the item or the contents of the item unless we where able to access it.
So, encryption would keep the government out of our devices.
And so would've been his father Ron, but the american people chose to vote for an obscure individual that appeared out of almost nowhere backed by massive finances from wallstreet and voted for the patriot act.
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No. It's not "old people".
Plenty of young people support Hitlary who voted for the patriot act, supports this bill and will continue in Barry's footsteps.
The world is turning to ****. Governments are passing new laws under the guise of "Terrorism prevention" and slowly chipping away at our civil liberties but no one seems to notice or care. Just the other day France passed a law that basically throws free speech right out the window. Yet people don't give a ****. The masses are too busy with their instagrams and netflix to even care. We as a people have basically become mindless zombies.
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Also interesting to note that of the 5 Senators that abstained (or did not vote)….. 4 of them are (2016) Presidential candidates!
Not Voting - 5
Cruz (R-TX)
Graham (R-SC)
Paul (R-KY)
Rubio (R-FL)
Vitter (R-LA)
I think it is cowardly of politicians to abstain from voting on important and controversial issues. It happened a lot for presidential candidates on both sides during many past elections.
That said, in this case the non-voters were in Colorado for the debate, so they could not vote. I do not know all their stances on this issue, but Rand Paul as been very vocal against CISA.
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One of the more legitimate reasons people have to hate what the US has become.
You say everyone will have chip inside heads. This reminds me the Cybran in Supreme Commander.
Apple taking a vocal stance is one thing (damage control before the inevitable), but will Apple and the rest of the industry challenge the president's legislation (yes he will sign it ) legally? - not that the SC would side against govt anyway these days...
Well I'm pretty certain to say this that the US is currently the most corrupted 1st world country hands down. If "security" means that we get a ****ing camera in our goddamn bathroom and legal spyware that record what porn you're fapping to, then I'm totally against it. **** you america. Thankfully, if there's one great thing about Apple after Tim Cook came to place, it's their concerns for privacy.
Which has not , and won't help at all, once Cisa is law. But Tim will at least be able to say it's not Apple's fault that we now are cooperating with data mining!
Sounds like western countries are trying to copy what China has done so far.
Hey, sometimes you win or lose, depending upon what law gets foisted upon you. Gay marriage, for instance.
If things go your way, good. If not, then it's time to suck it up and move on.
If things go your way, good. If not, then it's time to suck it up and move on.
A very simplistic response to the problem. Do people get to vote for a representative who will meet their beliefs and needs perfectly? Do they get to hold elected officials to their promises? Do election campaigns only focus on the policies that will be introduced during that term, excluding some emergency (and justifiable) changes?
No to all of those. People often vote just to get the current guy out because of the damage they have done or to keep the current guy in because of the fear of how bad the other guy could be. Voting based on the policies of your preferred candidate is secondary. Also, there is no way that a candidate can represent you perfectly and that is mostly because they are usually a member of a party which has party agendas. These parties are also heavily influenced by lobbyists who want to target your rights in favour of their profits. How could any candidate represent both of you? How could they even be honest about their dealings with lobbyists? If there is less honesty, how have you got a fair and worthy vote?
The current system doesn't work. All people need to have a valid vote for change and/or progress that they are guaranteed but with acceptable reasons for compromise on those. People also need the right to instigate a motion for review for elected officials. Electorate representatives should be only for local/state politics. Federal positions should be voted by all practising voters and ideally not be associated with a party. Essentailly, it would be a board, not a war between two parties.
The Cisa amendment will allow the USA to jail foreigners for crimes committed abroad.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ecurity-cisa-bill-amendment-foreign-nationals
Quote: "In other words, if a French national hacks a Spanish national’s MasterCard, s/he could be subject to 10 years in US prison under laws changed by the bill."
Think about how that would go down in reverse.
Insane.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ecurity-cisa-bill-amendment-foreign-nationals
Quote: "In other words, if a French national hacks a Spanish national’s MasterCard, s/he could be subject to 10 years in US prison under laws changed by the bill."
Think about how that would go down in reverse.
Insane.
Sorry but, this statement:
Apple has taken a strong privacy stance in recent years, continually noting that the government doesn't have access to its servers. In iOS 8, Apple ended its storage of encryption keys for iOS devices, making it impossible for the company to unlock iPads an iPhones under police request.
Am I really to believe that if Tim Cook was found in a pool of blood, 50 children were found raped with their heads removed, the president was laying dead naked, and the location of a bomb that was about to go off in 20 schools later that day were found, together with an iPad that had on it's screen some text saying "unlock me, to find out who did this and the location of the bombs and disable codes"
Apple would say, oh gee, sorry, can't help.
Really?
Apple has taken a strong privacy stance in recent years, continually noting that the government doesn't have access to its servers. In iOS 8, Apple ended its storage of encryption keys for iOS devices, making it impossible for the company to unlock iPads an iPhones under police request.
Am I really to believe that if Tim Cook was found in a pool of blood, 50 children were found raped with their heads removed, the president was laying dead naked, and the location of a bomb that was about to go off in 20 schools later that day were found, together with an iPad that had on it's screen some text saying "unlock me, to find out who did this and the location of the bombs and disable codes"
Apple would say, oh gee, sorry, can't help.
Really?
I'm not from the USA so I don't get who is who and what your current laws are, so maybe I missing something.
I get that people are panicking over their privacy being invaded by the government and its not a nice thought thinking that someone somewhere could be watching what you are doing.
But surely the CIA/FBI are only going to want to be looking at the data of people they believe are a threat of some kind.
You could probably say that like 99.9% of the American population are just normal people who work, come home, go on Facebook, buy some stuff from Amazon, look at some porn... Just normal things. Nothing that should peak the interest of any government agency into looking at what you're doing, and even if they did.... What are they gonna find? Zip.
I personally believe that things like this are happening, have happened for a long time, and will undoubtedly get worse. And while I get the point of people's privacy being invaded, I also think that if what they're doing stops nasty events from happening, then is it really that bad?
I actually have become more aware of things going on like this and have scaled back my onlin presence to a degree. But I'm not going to stop using Facebook or Twitter or iCloud or whatever other service that makes my life easier and better just on the off chance some random government guy looks at what I get up to.
I get that people are panicking over their privacy being invaded by the government and its not a nice thought thinking that someone somewhere could be watching what you are doing.
But surely the CIA/FBI are only going to want to be looking at the data of people they believe are a threat of some kind.
You could probably say that like 99.9% of the American population are just normal people who work, come home, go on Facebook, buy some stuff from Amazon, look at some porn... Just normal things. Nothing that should peak the interest of any government agency into looking at what you're doing, and even if they did.... What are they gonna find? Zip.
I personally believe that things like this are happening, have happened for a long time, and will undoubtedly get worse. And while I get the point of people's privacy being invaded, I also think that if what they're doing stops nasty events from happening, then is it really that bad?
I actually have become more aware of things going on like this and have scaled back my onlin presence to a degree. But I'm not going to stop using Facebook or Twitter or iCloud or whatever other service that makes my life easier and better just on the off chance some random government guy looks at what I get up to.
Well done America.
Here's to hoping that Apple will move to Mexico or follow Kim Dotcom to New Zealand and pump their phones out from there.
On a more serious note, Apple's current OS is encrypted right? So why don't we all just stay on iOS 9 and refuse to upgrade in the future?
Essentially, if the law is integrated, Apple will have to update their software to allow access. So we just don't upgrade.
Here's to hoping that Apple will move to Mexico or follow Kim Dotcom to New Zealand and pump their phones out from there.
On a more serious note, Apple's current OS is encrypted right? So why don't we all just stay on iOS 9 and refuse to upgrade in the future?
Essentially, if the law is integrated, Apple will have to update their software to allow access. So we just don't upgrade.
For those who care, make sure you remember your Senators who voted YEA (in favor) of this legislation. Also interesting to note that of the 5 Senators that abstained (or did not vote)….. 4 of them are (2016) Presidential candidates!
This!
First thing I thought when I saw the didn't vote. How in the world can you say you represent this country if you don't fulfill your responsibility in representing your state.
Congress likes the word cyber like TV writers like "going viral".
Ugh.
Old white men out of touch ...
Ugh.
Old white men out of touch ...
I agree with you.
It's just trying to work out the Truth from what Tim Cooks keeps saying as Apple's Official Line on this.
You can't say, sorry, we don't collect data, we can't unlock devices, we keep no records of any use data, it's all encrypted and unobtainable.
And yet, when it's "Important Enough" to perhaps threaten Americans lives, or stop terrorism, then magically being able to do this as NOW it's THAT important that it must be done for the good of American people.
Either you can or you can't.
If you only can, when it's important enough to warrant it, that's fair enough, but just say that.
So get out there and vote them out. That's part of the problem - these people keep getting re-elected. Start setting a pattern that those that don't listen to their bosses (us) will get thrown out and you'll see things change.
Sadly most won't do this.