Controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act Passes in Senate

[Juicy Box]

This!

First thing I thought when I saw the didn't vote. How in the world can you say you represent this country if you don't fulfill your responsibility in representing your state.

It was mentioned on a earlier post, but the 4 did not vote because of they were not in DC, they were in at the debate in Colorado.

But, I understand what you are talking about. I think it is cowardly when politicians refuse to be on record on their positions for controversial topics.

8 years ago, Hillary Clinton would talk about then Senator Obama voting present on controversial things while he was in the state senate.

Not voting and voting present has been happening a long time, and it probably won't stop any time soon.

But in this case, it was because they were at the debate.

 

[Jambalaya]

A necessary step in today's increasingly dangerous world. I hope we in the UK can enact similar legislation

 

[JM]

All your Info belong to us!

WHAT YOU SAY?

 

[mac8867]

If you are against this type of bill, answer the following questions for yourself:

1. Have you read the summary of the bill? (S.754 - Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2015)
2. Do you know how your senators voted? (On Passage of the Bill (S. 754, As Amended))
3. Have you communicated with your senators letting them know they lost your future vote? (email your senator)
4. Prepared an eloquent response to friends and acquaintances to make sure they are informed before they vote?

That's the best, IMHO, we can do.

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

Paul and Rubio couldn't bother to show up to vote. Burn their campaigns to the ground. People who can't bother doing their current elected duties shouldn't be reelected never mind elected to a higher office.

 

[AbSoluTc]

Kaine and Warner - Go ****ing figure. Pieces of ****! I know the majority of people that have any sense in VA didn't want this ****** bill. Yet, you made it possible! No wonder VA is this backwards, stuck in time, **** hole.

 

[JM]

Sorry but, this statement:

Apple has taken a strong privacy stance in recent years, continually noting that the government doesn't have access to its servers. In iOS 8, Apple ended its storage of encryption keys for iOS devices, making it impossible for the company to unlock iPads an iPhones under police request.

Am I really to believe that if Tim Cook was found in a pool of blood, 50 children were found raped with their heads removed, the president was laying dead naked, and the location of a bomb that was about to go off in 20 schools later that day were found, together with an iPad that had on it's screen some text saying "unlock me, to find out who did this and the location of the bombs and disable codes"

Apple would say, oh gee, sorry, can't help.

Really?

Happens everyday. I have no idea how Tim does it.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

I know the majority of people that have any sense in VA didn't want this ****** bill.

Unfortunately that majority is the minority and getting smaller and smaller each with succeeding election.

 

[Naaaaak]

Of course this garbage passed (or will pass in one form or another). Just like the banker bailouts. Just like everything else most of the people oppose to their core. Your say doesn't matter because you don't pay them; lobbyists do. The ruling class wants it, so the ruling class got it.

Almost every individual on every ballot – local, state, or federal (especially federal) – has turned out to be a corrupt douchebag. I haven't had a single person represent me for as long as I could vote. The sickness this country has is that most people defend and forgive these politicians, as long as they have a D or R next to their name, and then fight and act like the other side is the real problem. The mainstream media feeds into it, leaving most people puppets for politicians and devoid of a voice of their own.

Until more people wake up to the game and realize that the current system is unfixable from within, we will continue to be taxed without representation, spied on directly against the word of the nation's founding documents, and always told that everything will be okay or that it's "for the greater good".

We are the USSA.

 

[macfoxpro]

One thing that both democrats and republicans agree with is craping on the constitution

It's too bad there's plenty of Americans that would love to rip up the constitution.

 

[Juicy Box]

Paul and Rubio couldn't bother to show up to vote. Burn their campaigns to the ground. People who can't bother doing their current elected duties shouldn't be reelected never mind elected to a higher office.

They were at a scheduled debate. Paul has been a very vocal opponent to CISA. If his vote would have mattered in the outcome, then he probably would have skipped the debate or asked for it to be rescheduled.

 

[Jax44]

Sorry but, this statement:

Apple has taken a strong privacy stance in recent years, continually noting that the government doesn't have access to its servers. In iOS 8, Apple ended its storage of encryption keys for iOS devices, making it impossible for the company to unlock iPads an iPhones under police request.

Am I really to believe that if Tim Cook was found in a pool of blood, 50 children were found raped with their heads removed, the president was laying dead naked, and the location of a bomb that was about to go off in 20 schools later that day were found, together with an iPad that had on it's screen some text saying "unlock me, to find out who did this and the location of the bombs and disable codes"

Apple would say, oh gee, sorry, can't help.

Really?

Is that an iPad Air2, or a Mini?

 

[macfoxpro]

Don't look at me, I didn't vote for him

 

[JM]

Of course this garbage passed (or will pass in one form or another). Just like the banker bailouts. Just like everything else most of the people oppose to their core. Your say doesn't matter because you don't pay them; lobbyists do. The ruling class wants it, so the ruling class got it.

Almost every individual on every ballot – local, state, or federal (especially federal) – has turned out to be a corrupt douchebag. I haven't had a single person represent me for as long as I could vote. The sickness this country has is that most people defend and forgive these politicians, as long as they have a D or R next to their name, and then fight and act like the other side is the real problem. The mainstream media feeds into it, leaving most people puppets for politicians and devoid of a voice of their own.

Until more people wake up to the game and realize that the current system is unfixable from within, we will continue to be taxed without representation, spied on directly against the word of the nation's founding documents, and always told that everything will be okay or that it's "for the greater good".

We are the USSA.

Kind of destroys the "U! S! A!" chant, doesn't it?

 

[JM]

It's too bad there's plenty of Americans that would love to rip up the constitution.

Like a phone book challenge?

 

[JM]

Unfortunately that majority is the minority and getting smaller and smaller each with succeeding election.

Disappearimg tiny people. Fascinating.

 

[Piggie]

Microsoft openly admit they have code that scans data held in the cloud to be sure they do not become a haven for illegal data, images, abuse etc etc.
Do we presume Apple also scans their users cloud data also, looking for similar illegal data or information stored on their systems?

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

They were at a scheduled debate. Paul has been a very vocal opponent to CISA. If his vote would have mattered in the outcome, then he probably would have skipped the debate or asked for it to be rescheduled.

You don't sit out of a vote just because you think it'll go one way or the other. Thinking that way, you may as well not vote for Paul in the primaries because you know he'll probably lose either way.

Honestly though, I don't think it should be legal to run for office (even for reelection) at the same time as you're sitting in one.

Anyways, if it truly was impossible for Paul to both attend the debate and the vote (which I doubt), then he should be championing a bill that would allow for absentee voting in Congress.

 

[diipii]

The U.S. Senate today passed the controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, also known as CISA, in a 74 to 21 vote. A similar bill has already passed in the House, and the two cybersecurity bills will likely be combined before heading to the White House for a final decision from President Obama. The vote comes a week after Apple spoke out against the bill.

CISA is designed to allow companies to share information on cybersecurity threats with one another and the government. However, as noted by Wired, privacy advocates have asked Congress to kill the bill, saying that it hides "new government surveillance mechanisms in the guise of security protections."

Apple spoke out against the bill last week after other technology companies, like Twitter, Yelp, Wikipedia, reddit also opposed the bill. The Computer and Communications Industry Association, which represents Google, Amazon, Facebook and Microsoft had urged the Senate to make improvements to the bill, saying that they do not support the bill as it's currently written.

The Cupertino company once again reiterated its commitment to user privacy in its opposition to the legislation, saying that it doesn't support CISA and that the trust of its customers "means everything to us and we don't believe security should come at the expense of privacy." Apple has taken a strong privacy stance in recent years, continually noting that the government doesn't have access to its servers. In iOS 8, Apple ended its storage of encryption keys for iOS devices, making it impossible for the company to unlock iPads an iPhones under police request.

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Article Link: Controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act Passes in Senate

"Methinks they do protest too much".

 

[Glassed Silver]

Can't really do anything at this point except hope Obama vetoes it.

Indeed. And he will do jack all.

Disgusting.

Glassed Silver:ios

 

[Juicy Box]

You don't sit out of a vote just because you think it'll go one way or the other. Thinking that way, you may as well not vote for Paul in the primaries because you know he'll probably lose either way.

Honestly though, I don't think it should be legal to run for office (even for reelection) at the same time as you're sitting in one.

Anyways, if it truly was impossible for Paul to both attend the debate and the vote (which I doubt), then he should be championing a bill that would allow for absentee voting in Congress.

These outcomes are never a surprise. The votes are known beforehand. If it was close, then it would have been a different story, but it wasn't.

Also, I do not vote in republican presidential primaries.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Expecting a 1700s agrarian government, barely capable of governing 13 little colonies, to remain a relevant and effective government of what the US has become today, is wildly unrealistic.

...expecting a culture built around the aggressive consolidation of wealth and power to regard those without either as anything more than an unruly pack of draft animals isn't either.

The approach, and the entire concept is so ineffective and outdated it's hardly worth dissecting.

 

[Roric]

Being in Denver for the debate that starts 27 hours after the vote is no excuse for not being at the vote doing the job they seeked out and were elected to. There are many flights between DC and Denver in that 27 hour time period. Anyone who is skipping work to apply for a new job doesn't deserve either job!

 

[Thunderhawks]

Only thing we can do, be more selective with the information we divulge to companies. Little things, like secret questions, etc. I'll bet companies harvest that stuff and put that in your "file." I always lie for my secret questions. The city I was born in has been in about 25 cities all over the world, and not one my real birth city. Stop with the store cards, never give our your info, etc. We don't realize how cheaply we have sold out our information.

This helps.

Also, NEVER give your Social Security number to any company which doesn't require it by law.

For example car rental agencies and doctors have these SSN questions on their forms to fill out.

Instead of arguing with a company clerk who doesn't know better and not getting what you want,
just reverse two digits in your real SSN.
You do not have to show proof of your SSN, as it is always advised not to carry the card.

That way if they really use it or it turns out it's needed, you can claim an error and know that it is being used.

Have been doing that since over 30 years and not once was I asked about it!

You can do the same with your D.O.B.

 

[ron7624]

What do people expect?
People voted for the politicians that came up and approved this.
And people are now complaining?
And yet people keep voting and supporting the SAME politicians?

Hello? Am I missing something?
This bill is passed because the people want it. If you actually didn't want it, then maybe, just maybe, vote for somebody else to represent you. Just saying. If you keep voting and supporting the same politicians that you were complaining about, well, you got what you wished for.

Wrong!
We vote on their platforms - but when it comes time to live up to their promises they vote with the machine instead.
I don't know the answer. Voting for an HONEST AND HONORABLE politician seems an impossible task.