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So it’s safe to assume this won’t be anywhere near a $2,000 price tag, right? Haha... 😑
 
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The thing that makes this seem the most unlikely is that tomorrow Apple is presenting their 4th quarter earnings. That's a huge event, and you wouldn't want to cut short the hype around a 16" Macbook Pro from the report. Also, historically, Apple likes to launch big products 1-4 weeks before the end of the quarter so they can report a sales bump from the initial huge spike of orders. And they'd want time to ramp up supply to meet that initial demand.
 
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Twenty dongles? Really? I have two. We're almost at 2020 and if users have not gotten on the bandwagon with USB-C by now, that is on them. Please stop the silliness of trying to convince people that the 2015 MacBook Pro was any more expandable than the 2016-2019 MacBook Pro.

If Apple wants to make the 16" MacBook Pro 3mm thicker, by golly, they should go for it, but put in more battery capacity, a heftier GPU, DRAM slots for up to 64GB of DRAM, more cooling for the CPU...basically anything other than wasting even one iota of space on an SD Card slot.
When's the last time you saw a USB-C stick at any store, other than online?

The user's haven't gotten on the USB-C bandwagon because there's a **** amount of devices that use it.

The 2015 MBP is literally more expandable than the 2016-2019 MBP.

You can polish a turd, but it's still a 2016-2019 MBP.
 
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Names aside (pro doesn't mean anything anymore except higher specs), the machine you described want and need is a workstation laptop, like the Thinkpad P series or the HP ZBook workstations. They are designed to put performance over design and have adequate cooling and actual Xeon and Quadro graphics on a wide variety of screen sizes. They are also more affordable (meaning you can configure them from a lower price) than the Macbook Pro. So my question is, does your workflow require OS X? If it does, can it change? If it doesn't, why on earth would you choose a Macbook Pro over a machine actually designed to do what you need?

To answer your question, yes, it's because of Mac OS X. I really cannot stand Windows. I've tried 3 different versions of it. Yes, it's gotten much better over time. But the old Windows always ends up creeping through with weird popups and bugs. I even hate the way the cursor traces across the screen. I really don't like working with that OS at all.
 
People had similar reactions when Apple got rid of the floppy disk drive and numerous legacy ports on the iMac. Removing ports is a thing they like to do.

Except no one uses Floppy or CD drives anymore, they became obsolete super fast. SD cards are far from obsolete. There is nothing to replace them, if you want to get photos off your camera – be it the cheapest camera or the most expensive DSLR – that's pretty much the only way to do it. Sound recorders, and professional cinema cameras like the Ursa Mini Pro use SD cards, and those cameras are expected to stick around for many many years. It's handy to have a MacBook Pro in the field and quickly be able to do stuff with SD cards, and not have to have a dongle hanging out that takes up an extra port.

But just because it's something "Apple likes to do" doesn't mean we can't complain. It may not be surprising that they removed the slot, but I sure as hell don't like it.
 
First, QLED is a marketing term. It'd be like Apple saying they're Retina Displays, or XDR Displays, or whatever. Having said that, the "Outdoor Mode" sounds interesting. Though:

Yes, QLED is a Samsung market term. It is still an LED display. But it brings improvements that result in great color reproduction. I was pretty impressed with the quality of Samsung QLED TVs, and I found them to be in the same level as OLED TVs, even though they are cheaper. This is reportedly the reason why Samsung does not even sell OLED TVs anymore.

Regarding the other specs: these are, as the article notes, Intel Project Athena stuff. That makes them more of a competitor against the MacBook Air or possibly the 13-inch MacBook Pro.

It'll be interesting to see what Apple can/wants to pull off in terms of thickness, lightness, bezels, and battery life on their 2020 and beyond 13-inch (14-inch?) models. They'll probably eventually move to Ice Lake-U and -Y, or they might skip ahead to Tiger Lake. Either way, those models will probably allow for some of the advances Samsung is showing here. Part of that, I would guess, will be eaten up by Apple making the next generation slightly thinner again. Which will obviously be controversial.

Yes, definitely this is a contender to the MacBook Air, and not to a 15/16-inch MacBook Pro. However, some of these improvements are universal and could be noticed in any model, such as the smaller bezels, higher battery life, or improved displays.

Sure. This design is from 2016, and Apple usually makes major adjustment around every three to four years. (The MBPs in particular saw the 2006 design, which was only a minor adjustment from the 2003 PowerBook G4 Aluminum design; the 2008 Unibody design; the 2012 Retina design; and the 2016 Touch Bar design.)

There's little doubt this year or next year will see some changes beyond a mere speedbump.

Hopefully!

I don't think the 16-inch MacBook Pro will be that exciting.

Reduce the bezel, sure. Bring back a more reliable keyboard, yes. Some speedbumps. That's about it.

Well, rumour is that it is just a 15-inch with smaller bezels and a better keyboard. But it will be disappointing if Apple launches a $3,000+ laptop right now without many of the improvements that other manufacturers are announcing and which will be included in far cheaper models.
 
Floppy disks were still at the height of their popularity in 1998.

...they were also at the height of their obsolescence - the 1.44 MB floppy format hadn't been updated in over a decade. People were still using them despite the fact that they weren't up to the job.

You're right that it was LANs and the Internet that really killed off the floppy. Zip drives were never particularly expensive, though (but the discs were too expensive to give away) but don't understimate the CD-R: I know that 1997/8 was the year that cheap, consumer, plug-and-play CD-R drives arrived 'cuz that's when I got one (and my oldest CD-Rs have '1998' on them!) Of course, the great advantage of CD-R was that, like floppies, you could send them to people because even if they didn't have a CD-R drive they did have a CD-ROM.

What percentage of MacBook Pro users do you think need an SD card reader on a daily basis?

Maybe not daily, but all the ones who don't have iPhones but do have DSLRs, Android phones with SD cards, dashcams, Raspberry Pis...

However, an SD reader is tiny, and has virtually no moving parts, adds little to the cost of the computer and sits there inoffensively and harmlessly if you don't use it. C.f. a floppy or optical drive which is huge and full of motors, mechanical parts and sensitive read heads all begging to go wrong. I found those slot-loading optical drives particularly failure prone (mine was soon expunged from my MBP in favour of a second HD).

Personally I have no problem with a laptop that maybe has one or two ports that I never use, unless they're accounting for more than a few grammes of weight. Some people seem to get obsessed over that, and want to deny them to other people...
 
Personally I have no problem with a laptop that maybe has one or two ports that I never use, unless they're accounting for more than a few grammes of weight. Some people seem to get obsessed over that, and want to deny them to other people...

Totally agree..

I wonder how long until Apple can do some type of wireless charging laptop and then we'll get the whole forum defending NO ports whatsoever...
 
Totally agree..

I wonder how long until Apple can do some type of wireless charging laptop and then we'll get the whole forum defending NO ports whatsoever...
It's quite amazing (comical, actually) to see the mental gymnastics that goes on when members have to adjust their position on a previously derided feature that Apple has just implemented, or a previously amazing feature Apple have removed!
 
I even hate the way the cursor traces across the screen. I really don't like working with that OS at all.

I was going to ask how often you interact with the OS. Most creatives I know spend all day in one app. It could be running Linux for all it matters. But wow, when you hate the way they draw the cursor, there's no hope! 😀
 
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Out of curiosity, what are the benefits of not having the magnetic connector besides Apple making more money from customers tripping over the cords and breaking the computers (not covered under warrantee)?

Trying to play devil's advocate - and as someone who's MBP took a fall even with MagSafe because someone tripped over it wrong - as laptops get lighter it might be necessary to make MagSafe so easy to detach that it would happen accidentally.

Oh, and you can charge your MacBook and phone with the same adapter... unless, of course, you want to charge them at the same time, overnight... but only Mac-hating freaks want to do that.

there's a ton of USB-C or Thunderbolt power adapters, docks, hubs, and other stuff that will work to charge the MBP. More flexible, and cheaper.

...but that only requires the addition of USB-C ports, not the removal of MagSafe. At least in 2016, a MBP with the 2 MinIDP/TB2 ports updated to TB3/USB-C but all of the other 2015 ports still there would have been a great compromise.

Also - at least until recently - very few non-Apple laptops have exclusively used USB-C for charging. So other than a few high end desktop TB3 docks designed with the MBP in mind, there hasn't been a huge range of non-Apple chargers supporting the highest USB power mode needed to properly run & charge a MBP.
 
I predict it'll be essentially the same as the current model. The slimmer bezel will extend the screen size to 16". It'll possibly have faceID in the bezel a la the iPad Pro's bezel. It'll have an "all new keyboard" but it'll look and feel exactly the same as the current one, just have a scissor mechanism instead of butterfly. The touchbar will remain, with no haptic feedback. It'll still have 4 USB-C Thunderbolt ports, no SD-Card reader. And it still won't come with a power cable in the box.
 
Not going to happen, but I wish it would include an HDMI port and an SD card reader. As a person who uses their Macbook Pro for professional reasons, really miss those abilities without the need for dongles. Make a pro machine Apple. Wishful thinking, I know. It’s just not going to happen.
 
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When's the last time you saw a USB-C stick at any store, other than online?

The user's haven't gotten on the USB-C bandwagon because there's a **** amount of devices that use it.

The 2015 MBP is literally more expandable than the 2016-2019 MBP.

You can polish a turd, but it's still a 2016-2019 MBP.

USB-C Stick were at Apple Store 9 months ago, pretty sure Best Buy has them in stock as well. I have one Sandisk 64GB Ultra Dual Drive. I got mine through Amazon...hardly difficult to find or buy now.

There are a metric crap ton of devices using USB-C now, and you can buy a cable for nearly any legacy device sans a captive cable device to make it work with USB-C. Do you live in a remote area or something?

The 2015 has more ports, but it is not more expandable than the 2016-2019 MacBook Pro. I’ll take 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports any day that I can use as a USB port if I need to or use all 4x40Gbps ports connecting eGPUs, high speed NVMe storage, a Dock, 10GbE, you name it.

The 2016-2019 MacBook Pros are not turds and the 2012-2015 are not the legendary laptops everyone thinks they are, although I own two of them (2012,2015) and two 2016 models, both with their original keyboards.🤭 All of them have been great, bar a few video issues with the 2015 and a fake SATA issue with the 2012 user Apple Hardware Test. NONE of them have a keyboard for the ages, my Late 2011 actually is better in that regard.

If Apple adds HDMI and/or SD Card, so be it, but no more damn USB-A ports, not a single one. USB-A needs to stay gone for good and needs to disappear from iMacs and Mac mini’s sooner rather than later.
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I predict it'll be essentially the same as the current model. The slimmer bezel will extend the screen size to 16". It'll possibly have faceID in the bezel a la the iPad Pro's bezel. It'll have an "all new keyboard" but it'll look and feel exactly the same as the current one, just have a scissor mechanism instead of butterfly. The touchbar will remain, with no haptic feedback. It'll still have 4 USB-C Thunderbolt ports, no SD-Card reader. And it still won't come with a power cable in the box.

You mean the three prong extension cable? Yeah, come on Tim, nickels and dimes get really old after a while.
 
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