But there is a non-digital edition, right? Is there iPhone side-load edition? I will buy this at heartbeat.
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But there is a non-digital edition, right? Is there iPhone side-load edition? I will buy this at heartbeat.
you can't even side load apps on PS5 disc edition. all software is approved by the platform owner on ps5/xbox.
no one would buy a cartridge iPhone edition to swap apps but suddenly that'll satisfy your condition and makes everything ok. that makes no sense.
But a good question for you to ask apparently
Arguing for the “free and fair market” in this case specifically is ironic. Apple did not use that same philosophy in regards to the App Store.
Dude the point is that there should not be only one way to obtain an app nor only one way to make a payment. Apple is monopolizing iOS market place, it want to be sole player on app market place and it also want to be judge on what goes into its Apple Store.
That is problem. I hope Apple being split into two companies, one is making hardware and one is offering digital services.
Apparent you down't know how law works, you are making statements about law overstepping, but it is not.
If you like, Apple can bring back those physical cards you can get from stores like Starbucks to make you type in a code and download the app.
Sony is monopolizing the Playstation market place. And you can't make external payments from a game running on PS5.
Says who? Since when does a private company making a complete ecosystem have to be forced to allow others access?
The reason people are touchy about the PlayStation or Xbox (and try to avoid the comparison) is because they operate using the exact same business model. Forcing Apple to open up while allowing other companies to remain closed is discriminatory.
I'm clear on how the law works
Sounds like you're confused on the meaning of law overstepping. That's an opinion.
No. As a developer for iOS I can think of countless ways to track users who are buying Apps from 3rd party stores.
The privacy/security argument is 100% valid.
Or Apple could allow me download app directly from developer bypassing App Store already. They kind already do with its MacOS.
But I am not force to buy App from Play Station store, right?
A private company still need to follow the law. And law prohibits monopolistic behavior or anti-competitive action.
If the judge determines Apple is abusing its market power and found Apple is being anticompetitive, then sure Apple need to forced to open up its marketplace.
If a judge found Microsoft, Sony or whatever being anticompetitive, then they sure will be forced to do the same.
Which you can't do on Playstation or Xbox.
For PS5 digital edition, yes you are forced.
If your argument is "but my PS5 has a disc", then all Apple needs to do is build a cartridge version of iPhone which no one would buy because swapping cartridges to load Blue Sky or whatever is insane, but at least they'll be compliant with your arbitrary requirement which makes no sense.
Even it is 100% valid, it still doesn’t change the fundamental of this case.
I don't need to list number of way to load PS or PS 2 games on my Mac don't you?
And Indeed you can side load apps on Playstation. Not sure about xBox. I don't play games on console. I play games on PC and guess what I can buy games from wherever I want.
I don't need Apple to build a cartridge version, Apple can build a version of iPhone allows me load games from other source.
If I want to purchase the app directly from the developer and pay developer directly, avoiding 30% fee, I can directly buy and load into my iPhone.
And guess what, Apple allows you do exactly this on MacOS
I cracks me up when people bring up Playstation and Xbox as some sort of gotcha scenario, when in fact those are also bad and should probably also face some legal scrutiny. Just because Apple is facing it first (because their products are far more integral to modern life) doesn't mean things are unfair or that they've been given the short end of the stick.
I don't see the relevance in loading PS5 games on Mac
But you're making the requirement that "I need to buy things from other sources outside of the App Store". Apple's way of complying with *YOUR* requirement of buying from *other sources* is to just build a cartridge slot. As long as Apple built a cartridge style iPhone and software is sold in a cartridge, your requirement is satisfied and therefore they're compliant with the law. Even though no one will use it.
I cannot understand why are you keeping bring cartridge style of iPhone all the time. It isn't even the same thing.
Guess what Europe did, Apple is forced to allow side-loading on its iPhone. So the side-load iPhone already exists, it just us from North American can't buy it.
And as other people said, if judge found Playstation, xBox being anti-competitive, then judge would order Sony or Microsoft do the same. Just because everyone do the same thing, doesn't mean Apple should do it.
The App Store competes with the Play Store in a free and fair market. If devs don't like the terms of doing business with Apple and its customers, they are free to focus on building for Play Store, Samsung Store, and any and all the other third-party Android stores. They can even sideload if they want to Android.
Forcing Apple to be like the competition is reducing genuine choice for customers.
Nintendo switch uses a cartridge. It's exactly the same thing.
Your requirement that software must be able to be purchased via disc/cartridge from stores and therefore PS5/Xbox/Nintendo is fine doesn't make sense.
Either you're for applying the same rules to PS5/Xbox/Switch as you are desiring from Apple, or you allow Apple to sell how they like. You can't apply one standard to Apple and another to Sony.
You need to explain your logic clear.
Apple wants to be the sole app distributors on its iOS ecosystem and it have power to determine which app can be on its store. It is Apple wants to be player and judge at sometime. How is this free and fair market place?
If your whole argument is:
1) There must be one App Store on iOS platform regardless and it is the holy grail of iOS.
2) If Apple doesn't allow an App on its iOS platform or a developer doesn't like Apple's term, they can go f**k themselves. And place their App to Google Play Store.
3) The result is reducing genuine choice for customer.
I don't think your logic stands.
I have never said software must be able to purchase visa disc/cartridge. I only said there has be other way for customer to obtain the apps.
If you solution is cartridge, then fine. As I said before, iPhone side-load edition is already exists. That's the way to obtain apps in alternative sources.
And Apple could build a system where the "other way" is to sell cards in stores. Apple will still get a cut just like how Sony still gets a cut from best buy store sales.