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Quick question... At any of the previous WWDC events has there ever been a release of ANY new consumer products?

Just wondering.

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brill

If I'm not mistaken the very very first iMac was introduced (a week or so?) prior to the WWDC back in ...whenever... and I'm sure there were other consumer oriented things announced/released at WWDC over the years.

Found it: iMac Announced 5/6/1998 --> WWDC 5/11/1998

Like Steve Jobs said... They aren't holding back or trying to time hardware with Apple specific events (WWDC/MacWorld).... When a product is ready they will ship it. From what I've seen they seem to be sticking to that philosophy.

Dave
 
Like Steve Jobs said... They aren't holding back or trying to time hardware with Apple specific events (WWDC/MacWorld).... When a product is ready they will ship it.

oo can you post the link where he said that please?

Incidentally, Apple Insider claims the iMacs have been ready for months and will not be released at WWDC.

-=|Mgkwho
 
Check out this image. Its a banner that sum1 managed to snap a picture of. some of the icons look new.

Anyone know what the one with the screwdriver is? all of the dashcode ones i've seen so far are with a hammer.

AFAIK, none of the icons on the banner are new.
 
Well, they don't call people apple fanboys for nothing. Sorry but a covered banner at an annual conference seems lame to report on. I mean, that is unless this is the first year they ever used a banner. In that case, it's news!

Agreed. The fact that something is coming that is new and secret and important enough to be worthy of its own banner is interesting--since not every WWDC has such secrets to reveal--but hardly worth the great time and expense of reporting on. Clearly MacRumors should not have reported it, since only 8 page of posters found it worth discussing. Or maybe people simply enjoy speculating and discussing the event itself, being technology fans, and thus the ongoing WWDC discussions will spill into any WWDC-related news posting, however minor.

Now, when you waste time COMMENTING on such a report, and parroting tired insults like "fanboy," THAT speaks of a true obsession ;)
 
Agreed. The fact that something is coming that is new and secret and important enough to be worthy of its own banner is interesting--since not every WWDC has such secrets to reveal--but hardly worth the great time and expense of reporting on. Clearly MacRumors should not have reported it, since only 8 page of posters found it worth discussing. Or maybe people simply enjoy speculating and discussing the event itself, being technology fans, and thus the ongoing WWDC discussions will spill into any WWDC-related news posting, however minor.

Now, when you waste time COMMENTING on such a report, and parroting tired insults like "fanboy," THAT speaks of a true obsession ;)

That's hilarious :)
 
Incidentally, Apple Insider claims the iMacs have been ready for months and will not be released at WWDC.

-=|Mgkwho

That to me doesn't make a bit of sense. Why would apple spend loads of time and money readying a product and not bother to sell it straight away? Wasn't there an article somewhere recently that said apple were one of the best in the business regarding inventory management?

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brill
 
If I'm not mistaken the very very first iMac was introduced (a week or so?) prior to the WWDC back in ...whenever... and I'm sure there were other consumer oriented things announced/released at WWDC over the years.

Found it: iMac Announced 5/6/1998 --> WWDC 5/11/1998

Like Steve Jobs said... They aren't holding back or trying to time hardware with Apple specific events (WWDC/MacWorld).... When a product is ready they will ship it. From what I've seen they seem to be sticking to that philosophy.

Dave

...and remember that the MacPro was first introduced at the WWDC06...
 
The most important thing about WWDC is surprisingly not the keynote on the monday, it's more about the sessions during the week, that's the cake, the keynote is just the icing on top. Please try not to be so condescending to others on the forums.

From what I've heard the conference is for developers and the Keynote is for everyone.
 
That to me doesn't make a bit of sense. Why would apple spend loads of time and money readying a product and not bother to sell it straight away? Wasn't there an article somewhere recently that said apple were one of the best in the business regarding inventory management?

I personally believe that Apple does not release products as soon as they are ready.

Take a look at the iPod. I'm sure there is or will soon be a finished model when iPhone launches. But because of their timeline that is based around projected sales, supplies, cannibalization, among many other factors, the iPod line won't be refreshed until September.

Also, while the recent MacPro addition, small MacBook refresh, and slightly better santa-rosa MBPs have been released, they are almost smaller than normal refreshes if you look at their history.

I think Apple is waiting for technology in Leopard to push their hardware even farther then we can imagine. Which would follow with releasing products after the secret Leopard features are announced. Even if Leopard isn't released until October.

Heck, I think Leopard will be done in the next few months, and be ready way before October. Apple may or may not wish to wait until October just because. (Though I hope they would surprise us and release it earlier- maybe October was just a safe bet. It is a pretty big leap from announcing the 4 month delay 2 months before it was supposed to be released)!

-=|Mgkwho
 
From what I've heard the conference is for developers and the Keynote is for everyone.

The Keynote is for developers.Any person at the keynote is under NDA.Until something is officially announced.

In otherwords all attendees have some sort of ADC membership except for the media.
For that matter one can't even attend the WWDC without some kind of ADC membership which automatically puts you under NDA.
 
oo can you post the link where he said that please?

Incidentally, Apple Insider claims the iMacs have been ready for months and will not be released at WWDC.

-=|Mgkwho

I've been looking for it but google isn't being as cooperative as it usually is... I could be mistaken it was said in relation to or around them time of Apple closing the coffin lind on MacWorld Summer (NY / Boston / whatever). So if I were to guess I'd say it was at the WWDC that was held that (spring/summer) but that's just a guess... I'm quite clear on the fact that it *was* said... I'm just a little hazy as to when. :)

Dave
 
multi-touch iMac

or may be they trump M$ by releasing a multitouch iMac or a multitouch monitor with Leopard containing multi-touch technology and tell the world that you dont need to wait for surface computing to get in the consumer buying range. You can get it today and play with your photos, etc. ;)
:)
 
or may be they trump M$ by releasing a multitouch iMac or a multitouch monitor with Leopard containing multi-touch technology and tell the world that you dont need to wait for surface computing to get in the consumer buying range. You can get it today and play with your photos, etc. ;)
:)


Multi-touch iMacs or Cinema Displays are long way off. The mouse and keyboard are going to remain for some time yet.
 
You know everyone, FTR, I really wish they WOULD release a new iMac tomorrow, because I don't want to wait any longer!!!

I just can't see it happening using my own logic.

-=|Mgkwho
 
The Keynote is for developers.Any person at the keynote is under NDA.Until something is officially announced.

In otherwords all attendees have some sort of ADC membership except for the media.
For that matter one can even attend the WWDC without some kind of ADC membership which automatically puts you under NDA.

Actually from the 3 or 4 times I've been to WWDC the keynote was the ONE thing you WERE aloud to talk about since it was covered by the press and broadcast via quicktime.

It was EVERYTHING ELSE including the types of candy and doughnuts they served during event changes that you'd be sued to hell and back if you were caught talking about... :p

Dave
 
Actually from the 3 or 4 times I've been to WWDC the keynote was the ONE thing you WERE aloud to talk about since it was covered by the press and broadcast via quicktime.

It was EVERYTHING ELSE including the types of candy and doughnuts they served during event changes that you'd be sued to hell and back if you were caught talking about... :p

Dave

That's true but one still had to have some kind of ADC membership unless you were the press.
 
NO.

It's a developers conference.

I agree, but Apple has announced hardware at developer conferences in the past.

If Apple announces new hardware, it will probably be something that requires developers' attention (e.g., moving to a new CPU or a new form factor driving new interactions (i.e., the iPhone)).
 
I personally believe that Apple does not release products as soon as they are ready

That isn't what I said...

What I said was Apple WAS NOT trying to TIME hardware releases to conform to a SPECIFIC Apple coordinated/hosted event. Be it MWSF, WWDC or the MWNY (rip), MW Paris, etc etc etc. From what I remember Steve said something to the effect that they wouldn't be chained to specific events when releasing hardware.

I wish I could find that quote since I know he said it... (it was something like that anyway).

Dave
 
I agree, but Apple has announced hardware at developer conferences in the past.

If Apple announces new hardware, it will probably be something that requires developers' attention (e.g., moving to a new CPU or a new form factor driving new interactions (i.e., the iPhone)).

I meant "no" to consumer hardware. Just last year, at WWDC 06 Apple released the MacPro. There's a huge discussion over this by me and some others over the past few pages; I'd suggest reading them.

-=|Mgkwho
 
You know everyone, FTR, I really wish they WOULD release a new iMac tomorrow, because I don't want to wait any longer!!!

I just can't see it happening using my own logic.

Apple is pretty good about managing and pacing the buzz level. Here are my predictions for keeping Apple continuously in the press:

Week of June 11: all about Leopard
Week of June 18: new iMacs
Week of June 25: all about iPhone
 
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