Credible Leaker Says New iMac to Feature 'Really Big' Display Larger Than Current 27-inch Model

[jlocker]

I am not a big fan of desktop all-in-one desktop monitors, if the monitor happens to go your whole computer is off to repair. At least if you, loose an external monitor and when it is getting repaired or replaced you can still use the computer with a backup monitor. It is a necessity for a laptop for portability, but pain in the butt if you loose the built in display. This is why AppleCare plus is even more important for support of your Apple product. So you can get faster turn around and get back to using your computer and access to all of your work.

 

[Dockland]

I hope it will be a 42" 8192 x 5464 (then I can display my Camera images 1:1)

 

[rp2011]

“All in one” is one of the main reasons the iMac sells so well though, in my opinion.
You can have a very powerful machine, great speakers, great mic, good enough webcam, and one of the best displays out there with ONE cord! This leaves your ports open too!

One of my biggest gripes is when your tower/laptop is on but your monitor won’t wake up and you have to press extra buttons on it to wake it up. Minor, but still annoying!

My wallet is ready, Apple!

I think now that they have full control of their computers and can bring many of the features from their iPhone to the Mac such as their cameras, Apple has the opportunity to reimagine the Mac without the limitations of the Intel Macs.
So if the new iMacs have best in class web cams, Face ID, best in class speakers and displays, then the iMac could be a great option to anyone needing a powerful desktop computers.

 

[code-m]

I'm betting it'll be a 32" display because that seems to be the standard now.

My hunch is a 30” with a 5.5 or 6K resolution. The ProDisplay XDR may receive a resolution bump to 8K once MX officially supports that resolution (maybe it can but it’s not Apple official). The smaller size will be 24” with 5K resolution.

Apple may not release a 32” iMac as it will encroach on the PD-XDR sales and market if TDM is re-introduced. Why bother purchasing a PD-XDR when a 32” iMac will do for a fraction of the cost. Granted the display tech is marginally better on the PD-XDR but for everyday users it’s not going to matter. Apple has cannibalized on previous product segments but it’s either due to other factors or a replacement/upgrade was in the works.

 

[code-m]

I think now that they have full control of their computers and can bring many of the features from their iPhone to the Mac such as their cameras, Apple has the opportunity to reimagine the Mac without the limitations of the Intel Macs.
So if the new iMacs have best in class web cams, Face ID, best in class speakers and displays, then the iMac could be a great option to anyone needing a powerful desktop computers.

iMac is aching to incorporate FaceID, as the physical limitations do not exist as it does on the laptop line. Expect rounded corners too as macOS seems to favour it.

 

[Premal212]

Educate me. We live in the days of System on a chip, fast SSD drives, large super fast caches for processing (on the chip)

Is maxing out your Ram now just a throwback to a bygone era? Is it not now the equivalent of a go-faster stripe on a boy-racers car?

I've got a 2019 13" MBP with 16gb of ram and a 2019 15" MBP with 32gb of ram.

When I'm running After Effects, hundreds of vectors, lighting, 3D rendering, the 13" just doesn't keep up, the ram just isn't enough to have After Effects, Premier Pro and Illustrator all running simultaneously, no matter how big I have the cache, my pressure is always in the yellow and sometimes in the red.

My 15" is always in the green and sometimes in the yellow. It's a far easier machine to use when working on these projects.

Sure having a blazing fast SSD helps, this is mainly with my cache, having 250gb alone just allocated to cache. Issues arrise when I'm switching apps quickly the 13" just doesn't keep up.

 

[neomorpheus]

You think Apple has insane cult members? Try Tesla; those are radicals.

I heard about them!

But let's clarify something, i don't believe that all apple fans fall under the cult members category, even though, their numbers are huge and sadly, very loud and vocal.

 

[code-m]

Price will be really big as well

Component shortages might have a day in the price.

 

[akbarali.ch]

“All in one” is one of the main reasons the iMac sells so well though, in my opinion.
You can have a very powerful machine, great speakers, great mic, good enough webcam, and one of the best displays out there with ONE cord! This leaves your ports open too!

One of my biggest gripes is when your tower/laptop is on but your monitor won’t wake up and you have to press extra buttons on it to wake it up. Minor, but still annoying!

My wallet is ready, Apple!

I really like the iMac for all the reason you pointed out. And thats why it was so hard, when i switch to Macbook Pro and an external display, it was almost impossible to create the same/similar setup with anything else. So, had to go back and get a used Thunderbolt Display, which is basically iMac without computer in it.
I hope they come out with an updated consumer level display.

 

[aknabi]

I still have never wrapped my head around someone wanting an AIO (e.g. iMac) vs separate compute and display units. Buying a solid display should last you a good decade, whereas you may want to replace the CPU/GPU side every 18 months (especially now that we've started Apple Silicon where we could see solid yearly jumps).

Is it just having the single unit form factor (which is valid, though arguably a less sustainable/green choice)

 

[Premal212]

I don’t think you’re understanding. Technical buzzwords about SoC engineering is fine in theory. Many professionals live in the real world and need to use what is available to us, right now. When an application says “sorry, I can’t do that, there’s no free RAM” that’s a real world problem I run into on an M1 machine with 16GB RAM. I do not run into the same issue on an Intel machine with 32GB. I can’t just call Adobe, Autodesk, JetBrains, Microsoft, Apple (just some of the apps in my regular workflow) and say “hey, optimize this to take full advantage of Apple Si SoC please.” The amount of RAM is actually blocking me from my regular workflow on that particular machine. It’s not a holdover from years ago, it’s a cold hard fact. I need to quit 1 or more applications to continue doing something else I need to do.

I understand completely how it works. I design and build small hardware for a living now. But I also know that doesn’t mean all of the software people need in their daily lives are built to take advantage of that yet. In some cases, it may take years. For those of us that require specific tools, more RAM is indeed necessary.

Spot on pal. Autodesk and Adobe have been optimised horrifically on macOS, multithreaded support has just come to Prem Pro and After Effects, and let's not even begin to start how horrible CAD and Fusion run on macOS.

We are at the mercy of the software developers, this means succumbing to their requirements. No matter how well Apple optimises their machines to work with their OS for us, if Adobe After Effects needs 32/64gb ram to operate, that's what we need, otherwise we are going to run into problems.

And I'm sure folks will say moving to alternative software, but often in a professional world that isn't an option when you work with people on specific software. Importing and Exporting in and out of different softwares on huge projects will just leave you frustrated and losing time.

 

[jetjaguar]

Looking forward to seeing how these turn out as well as the Mac Pro.

 

[code-m]

I really like the iMac for all the reason you pointed out. And thats why it was so hard, when i switch to Macbook Pro and an external display, it was almost impossible to create the same/similar setup with anything else. So, had to go back and get a used Thunderbolt Display, which is basically iMac without computer in it.
I hope they come out with an updated consumer level display.

The biggest limitation of iMac’s design is the lack of a rotating display and heigh adjustability. The flower pot iMac design included most of this functionality and then came this design. I hope this MX iMac redesign re-introduced this ability.

 

[Taipan]

Hm. I‘m afraid this might translate to the larger model being too big and expensive and the smaller one being too small. Like 32“ and 24“.

 

[lewdvig]

My guess is big one is the iMac Pro replacement. Expensive and powerful. Matches the size and design of the Pro Display.

Only the smaller iMac will come in colours and will be less powerful and slightly different/simpler design. A throwback to the original iMac.

 

[smoledman]

I'd rather have a Mac Mini Pro with a display of my choice. Making the iMac even bigger is just plain stupid.

 

[DougieS]

When reading about the bezel-less iMacs I am always wondering how fingerprints on the display can be avoided when inserting something into the ports on the back, at least I am holding the iMac in these cases at the chin.

Put a pop socket on the back to hold instead!

 

[ThisBougieLife]

That's cool but I'm really interested in the smaller 24" one. I know the trend now is huge screens but I find I have to sit pretty far from a large screen to even be able to see everything on it and make use of the larger space. To me it just makes sense to have a smaller one. I hope also that they come out with some stand-alone monitors for the Mac Mini that don't cost an arm and a leg.

 

[smoledman]

I still have never wrapped my head around someone wanting an AIO (e.g. iMac) vs separate compute and display units. Buying a solid display should last you a good decade, whereas you may want to replace the CPU/GPU side every 18 months (especially now that we've started Apple Silicon where we could see solid yearly jumps).

Is it just having the single unit form factor (which is valid, though arguably a less sustainable/green choice)

The only reason why people have gone along with the AIO from Apple all this time is because the industrial design from the competitor machines was so god awful. You either had to pick from terrible plasticky, loud AIO machines, or giant honking towers or mini PCs that were way too weak.

Now with the latest Intel NUCs(some have 6 cores), you can 32/64GB RAM and they have TB ports so you can do eGPU. Finally in the 2020s there are options.

 

[KeithJenner]

I still have never wrapped my head around someone wanting an AIO (e.g. iMac) vs separate compute and display units. Buying a solid display should last you a good decade, whereas you may want to replace the CPU/GPU side every 18 months (especially now that we've started Apple Silicon where we could see solid yearly jumps).

Is it just having the single unit form factor (which is valid, though arguably a less sustainable/green choice)

Valid points, but there are reasons why they are less of an issue for many.

Firstly, I tend to replace my iMac every 4-5 years (I'm going to be replacing a 2015 model. I don't see any reason why Apple Silicon will change that. In fact, given how well my M1 MacBook Pro runs I could see my next iMac lasting longer.

Secondly, it isn't as if I will just throw the old one in the bin. These things have really good resale values. I'm not paying the cost of a new monitor each time, once I factor in resale value.

 

[opeter]

As I already wrote, there will be 2 or 3 options: 23/24", 27" (maybe), 30/32".

 

[McG2k1]

No doubt really big 1080p

 

[satchmo]

Main reason the Pro Stand costs $1000 is the fact it is a "pro product". Or do you think this, for example, is really worth $950?

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The main reason it costs $1000, is because it's targeted at a 'pro' audience. Sure, it's crafted out of aircraft grade aluminium and the fit and finish is excellent. But the 'pro' designation is truly Apple marketing spin at it's finest.

You can easily find height adjustment monitors (not just the stand) at a price lower than $1000.

In a sense, Apple has painted itself in a corner. If they do bring the features to the iMac (naturally at a more consumer friendly price), how can they justify what they've been charging for the XDR stand?

To answer my own question then, I don't see height adjustment coming to the iMac at all.

 

[2010mini]

Really big or really, really big?

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Well, where else can they go?

They went thick, in the beginning. Then they went thin, and then even thinner. They went 'big', and now that big just isn't as big as it once was, lets face it...

They need to go BIGGER! 32", at least. 27" is about 312 square inches. A 32" would be about 438 square inches. I could use a bigger screen. Apple's new mantra: Think BIGGER?!?!