Current MacBook Pro Models Deleted From Best Buy's Inventory System? Updates Imminent?

[MorphingDragon]

Here is my dilema. I am really want a MBP but I am getting sick of waiting. I looked at Dell and here is the spec for a similar priced Dell

NEW 2010 Intel® Core™ i5-520M 2.40GHz (2.93Ghz Turbo Mode, 3M cache)
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz
Back-lit Keyboard
15.6” Full High Definition (1080p) High Brightness LED Display with TrueLife™ and Camera
500GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
8X Slot Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
85 Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell)
Video Card ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4570, 512MB
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi MB
Dell 1520 Wireless-N Card
Microsoft™ Office® Home & Student 2007
McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months
Dell Wireless 365 Bluetooth Internal (2.1)

I am looking at the MBP 13 with 4gb Ram and a 320gb HDD. Do I wait or buy the Dell. I am not in a huge hurry just finding it hard to wait. I do really like the Mac OS from the little I have played with it but I have never owned a Mac so I can't speak from experience. Any good help is appreciated.

Thanks

You could always... you know.

Dell isnt worth the hassle usually.

 

[fleggy]

Thanks!
First, to add the grey area in that you didn't think was in my first post, you have to also realize that not everyone comp shops $1K+ purhases, and it's not always because they're stupid. They may have familiarity, the industry may use similar equipment, they may just have enough money to not bother with it, or they might simply not care. Brand loyalty also plays a big part and, in my opinion, that's why Apple has been experiencing tremendous growth quarter after quarter.

If money is no option...then yes...buy unseen. For most people [stressing most], buying a new computer is a big deal! You are obviously not in this category. I tip my hat to you!

RE: Brand loyalty. Care to speculate how many "Same customer" sales Apple has had on MBP’s in say...the last two years? I suspect "not that many". Why? Apple products last a long time and the premium pricing is only justified by spreading the investment over a longer time period. The growth you refer to is from exiting Microsoft customers jumping ship. If Apple wants that to continue, they need to start keeping up. These are not the loyal customers they have enjoyed for the past x years.

I think the reason that you slightly disagree is that you're looking at this from a completely different angle than I am. First I looked at it from a marketing standpoint.

That is a crazy comment. I look simply at what I need - not what someone tells me I need. Little wonder there is a bridge in the middle of Nevada! "Sure...you're buying London Bridge...[AKA A bridge from London – NOT Tower Bridge]" – the best marketing EVER! LOL

Then I looked at it as a Mac user shopping. Then I assumed that if you're comp shopping, you're only looking at hardware/features and not software.

Wrong. If I and all the others you quote did not care about software, Apple would be nowhere near as successful. You talk about marketing and differentiation in the market place...OS X has been "it" for Apple prior to the iPhone. Form factor only goes so far! Would you buy a Ferrari kit car based on a Ford Taurus? No.

Also - from reading various forum’s on MR…there are a lot of hardy Mac fans, loyal and faithful who are complaining they simply can’t do their work anymore (effectively). They need more hardware and features to remain competitive. What if better hardware and features decreased your time by 20%? In business that is a fantastic number! You can do MORE; therefore BILL more.

Let me explain those three topics in reverse.

Comp Shopper
A person comp shopping is looking for the best features and the best hardware. What features or hardware someone is looking for varies, but it doesn't matter. If they care about Mac OS, Windows, or Linux they're not looking at the others. So either they care little about the software, or they're going to mod it with Bootcamp, Hackintoshing, etc. You accused me of thinking in black and white, but there's not much grey area here other than the users themselves and their individual needs. I can't go into every case, so I must generalize. Yes, as you say there are people that think Mac OS has value, but they want the newest/greatest hardware and they find it in a Windows box. That proves my point though, they value the OS, but not as much as the hardware. They'll always own PCs.

Mac Shopper
This is the category I fall into. I don't touch Windows—it has too many problems, I don't like Microsoft as a company, and there's no FCP. I don't touch Linux—it's made great strides but there's still too much to fiddle with and I can't use Adobe or FCP. And I don't Hackintosh because there's still too much to fiddle with. On top of all of that I just like OS X and Apple hardware and design.

A person shopping for a Mac greatly values OS X or they value Apple design. They might love the hardware, they might wish it was better, they might whatever. In any case, they still value OS X/design over hardware and so they'll always own Macs. How much you want hardware determines how willing you are to buy the current models. I still need my hardware to be top notch, so I've got to wait until the revisions bring the best they're going to offer. I am willing to pay more for less, because I perceive the value of owning a Mac to be greater than screwing around on PCs. I have been much happier with my Macs, even though my first one was riddled with problems and has finally died.

How much do you value Apple OS? I think Apple values it at ~$300. (A Mac Mini is $599. Same OS. Assuming components accounts for ~$300(?)).

Now – imagine that $700 laptop with Mac OS (just imagine). It now costs $1K (and yes, I am not removing the value of W7 – not even going to attempt to value it). Let’s also say form factor is worth another $500 (generous?). Total $1500.

A current 15” C2D 3.06 MBP with a 500GB HD costs….$2,649.00

What on EARTH is the extra ~$1.1K for? Even if the components were equal…$1K is a very large premium for an Apple logo. So that I don’t have to comment on the marketing paragraph…Mac Book PRO is a marketing gimic. There is currently nothing PRO about them. You’ve swallowed hook line and sinker on Apple’s marketing. I now tip my hat to them!

Apple's Marketing
This, I think, is the most interesting issue.

Let's look at how Apple markets its products. Though their goal is to always get switchers their marketing isn't entirely set up directly for that purpose. I am well aware of the Mac vs. PC ads—which I'll address momentarily—but the Mac market is set up for current Apple users. There aren't ever ads for the Pro models for instance—at least this century anyway. Why? Because the way that Apple gains most switchers is through consumer devices—iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc. Those people fall in love with those devices and how well they work—which is why Apple is so concerned about user experience and why they don't allow things like Flash to ruin it. Then they start to wonder why their PC can't be that simple, and then they wonder if a Mac suits them better. This is where the Mac vs. PC ads come into play. Their purpose is to plant the seed of doubt in the heads of Windows users with Apple devices. If it works, those people come in and buy a Mac. Most will buy the more consumer oriented Macs. Eventually they may move to the pro models.

The Pro models sell because people in certain industries buy them based on familiarity, quality, and reliability of the product. They know that because Macs have been in use in those industries for a while. They're almost a standard—though not quite of course.

etc.
For all of those saying that your Windows-problems argument is 2002: that doesn't mean that viruses and stability aren't still relevant or that those problems haven't become even more important. Perhaps those problems have been down a bit since Windows 7, but for those on other versions, it's still a daily source of frustration.

I do need to comment on this after all…The very people that Apple are attracting are the SAME people that want Blu-ray, HDMI, the latest and greatest from Intel. This could be a short term win for Apple…longer term, the “average consumer” customer is going to get frustrated and loyalty with them means nothing.

All that said…if Apple do add some of the features we have been discussing…they will get my hard earned cash. I happen to value Mac OS, but ultimately…it does not matter how stable or user friendly it is, if I can’t do what I want; that will force me back to Windows, and that upsets me.

Anyway…appreciate the banter!

 

[zync]

If money is no option...then yes...buy unseen. For most people [stressing most], buying a new computer is a big deal! You are obviously not in this category. I tip my hat to you!

RE: Brand loyalty. Care to speculate how many "Same customer" sales Apple has had on MBP’s in say...the last two years? I suspect "not that many". Why? Apple products last a long time and the premium pricing is only justified by spreading the investment over a longer time period. The growth you refer to is from exiting Microsoft customers jumping ship. If Apple wants that to continue, they need to start keeping up. These are not the loyal customers they have enjoyed for the past x years.



That is a crazy comment. I look simply at what I need - not what someone tells me I need. Little wonder there is a bridge in the middle of Nevada! "Sure...you're buying London Bridge...[AKA A bridge from London – NOT Tower Bridge]" – the best marketing EVER! LOL



Wrong. If I and all the others you quote did not care about software, Apple would be nowhere near as successful. You talk about marketing and differentiation in the market place...OS X has been "it" for Apple prior to the iPhone. Form factor only goes so far! Would you buy a Ferrari kit car based on a Ford Taurus? No.

Also - from reading various forum’s on MR…there are a lot of hardy Mac fans, loyal and faithful who are complaining they simply can’t do their work anymore (effectively). They need more hardware and features to remain competitive. What if better hardware and features decreased your time by 20%? In business that is a fantastic number! You can do MORE; therefore BILL more.



How much do you value Apple OS? I think Apple values it at ~$300. (A Mac Mini is $599. Same OS. Assuming components accounts for ~$300(?)).

Now – imagine that $700 laptop with Mac OS (just imagine). It now costs $1K (and yes, I am not removing the value of W7 – not even going to attempt to value it). Let’s also say form factor is worth another $500 (generous?). Total $1500.

A current 15” C2D 3.06 MBP with a 500GB HD costs….$2,649.00

What on EARTH is the extra ~$1.1K for? Even if the components were equal…$1K is a very large premium for an Apple logo. So that I don’t have to comment on the marketing paragraph…Mac Book PRO is a marketing gimic. There is currently nothing PRO about them. You’ve swallowed hook line and sinker on Apple’s marketing. I now tip my hat to them!



I do need to comment on this after all…The very people that Apple are attracting are the SAME people that want Blu-ray, HDMI, the latest and greatest from Intel. This could be a short term win for Apple…longer term, the “average consumer” customer is going to get frustrated and loyalty with them means nothing.

All that said…if Apple do add some of the features we have been discussing…they will get my hard earned cash. I happen to value Mac OS, but ultimately…it does not matter how stable or user friendly it is, if I can’t do what I want; that will force me back to Windows, and that upsets me.

Anyway…appreciate the banter!

Have you read my other comments in this thread? We've been saying the same things.

Also, why are you reading everything I posted as if those are reasons for me buying a current MBP?

I didn't bite any Apple marketing bait. I haven't bought the current model. I am waiting, just like most people in this thread. And I'm certainly not saying that you shouldn't want HDMI or BluRay. In fact all I said was that I didn't expect Apple to add BluRay.

I am waiting on the newest and best because I can't afford to go with the current models when updates are imminent. I keep my Macs for a while and honestly, I wouldn't even be getting a new machine if my PowerBook weren't dead. I'd still bust out great work on this iMac. But, I really need a portable computer, and so I need the best I can get.

I never said that the current Pro models were still Pro. Also, I don't think, other than recouping costs, Apple cares to value Mac OS X as it is sold on computers because it represents and intangible value anyway. If you priced it according to components, the MBP would probably be cheaper than you stated.

Let's go over this again. Someone showed a PC spec and said that Apple needs to hurry up because the competition is ahead. I looked at that from Apple's angle—there really isn't actual competition there. I don't look at how I buy my computers from Apple's angle. I look at buying computers from what I need from the computer just like anyone else. I thought that was clear.

You said what I said was wrong, and yet that's exactly what I said matters most to me—software. I buy a Mac because it's the easiest way to run Mac OS, and normally, their hardware is very competitive. Their prices on the other hand may not be.

I think you're taking exception because you don't think you fit into my model, however you really do. You value hardware over software. No matter how much you like OS X, you'll go back to Windows if you can't do what you want. You want BD and HDMI. HDMI can be solved with an existing adapter, and BD isn't generally a requirement to work. For one thing I've worked in production for years and I've made ONE BluRay disc. One. There's really not much Apple's hardware is stopping you from doing. To me, it seems like they're just your wants.

This isn't to say that I disagree with your wants. If they put a drive—personally I'd rather it have a larger battery or second HD and no drive—I'd rather it be a BD-R drive. But, I really don't need it. HDMI would be awesome, but I can just use an adapter for the rare times I'd actually use it. They're not forcing me back to Windows, because, FOR ME, that isn't an option. I see Windows as a detriment to the computer it's placed on. Further, I don't like the crappy plastic PCs that permeate the market. They're cheap and they break.

 

[fleggy]

Have you read my other comments in this thread? We've been saying the same things.

First, I am waiting on the newest and best because I can't afford to go with the current models when updates are imminent. I keep my Macs for a while and honestly, I wouldn't even be getting a new machine if my PowerBook weren't dead. I'd still bust out great work on this iMac. But, I really need a portable computer, and so I need the best I can get.

I never said that the current Pro models were still Pro. Also, I don't think, other than recouping costs, Apple cares to value Mac OS X as it is sold on computers because it represents and intangible value anyway. If you priced it according to components, the MBP would probably be cheaper than you stated.

I didn't bite any Apple marketing bait. I haven't bought the current model. I am waiting, just like most people in this thread. And I'm certainly not saying that you shouldn't want HDMI or BluRay. In fact all I said was that I didn't expect Apple to add BluRay.

I think you misunderstand still how I am interpreting what I am interpreting. Let's go over this again. Someone showed a PC spec and said that Apple needs to hurry up because the competition is ahead. I looked at that from Apple's angle—there really isn't actual competition there. I don't look at how I buy my computers from Apple's angle. I look at buying computers from what I need from the computer just like anyone else. I thought that was clear.

You said what I said was wrong, and yet that's exactly what I said matters most to me—software. I buy a Mac because it's the easiest way to run Mac OS, and normally, their hardware is very competitive. Their prices on the other hand may not be.

I think you're taking exception because you don't think you fit into my model, however you really do. You value hardware over software. No matter how much you like OS X, you'll go back to Windows if you can't do what you want. You want BD and HDMI. HDMI can be solved with an existing adapter, and BD isn't generally a requirement to work. For one thing I've worked in production for years and I've made ONE BluRay disc. One. There's really not much Apple's hardware is stopping you from doing. To me, it seems like they're just your wants.

This isn't to say that I disagree with your wants. If they put a drive—personally I'd rather it have a larger battery or second HD and no drive—I'd rather it be a BD-R drive. But, I really don't need it. HDMI would be awesome, but I can just use an adapter for the rare times I'd actually use it. They're not forcing me back to Windows, because, FOR ME, that isn't an option. I see Windows as a detriment to the computer it's placed on. Further, I don't like the crappy plastic PCs that permeate the market. They're cheap and they break.

I think we are agreed then Not to drag this out, but a couple of minor points.

Someone showed a PC spec and said that Apple needs to hurry up because the competition is ahead. I looked at that from Apple's angle—there really isn't actual competition there.

Sure there is. The customers you state are buying iPhones; that Apple hopes will come back as MBP customers. They WILL be comparing! They are Windows users today...you're not. Different thought process, right?

I therefore think that posters comments were valid in "that" respect. If Apple want to continue the growth they are experiencing, they need to do these things if they are to attract new customers.

 

[zync]

I think we are agreed then Not to drag this out, but a couple of minor points.

Sure there is. The customers you state are buying iPhones; that Apple hopes will come back as MBP customers. They WILL be comparing! They are Windows users today...you're not. Different thought process, right?

I therefore think that posters comments were valid in "that" respect. If Apple want to continue the growth they are experiencing, they need to do these things if they are to attract new customers.

Yes, that I agree with. I wasn't saying that Apple should or shouldn't make their products better. As a consumer I always hope for that, and as an Apple user I dream of it. However, I think that Apple is trying to make sales and switchers from user experience, not from hardware. If Apple were to work in that fashion, we'd be watching BluRay movies on out new MBPs instead of having this conversation. We may disagree on that, and that's totally fine. Thanks for the banter!

 

[fleggy]

Yes, that I agree with. I wasn't saying that Apple should or shouldn't make their products better. As a consumer I always hope for that, and as an Apple user I dream of it. However, I think that Apple is trying to make sales and switchers from user experience, not from hardware. If Apple were to work in that fashion, we'd be watching BluRay movies on out new MBPs instead of having this conversation. We may disagree on that, and that's totally fine. Thanks for the banter!

Yup - that would be nice. My guess is this Tuesday for the update.

I think they will want the new MBP hype to calm down a little for the iPad. Any later and it will conflict (reduce the focus).

 

[zync]

I hope you're right.

 

[tkirmani]

will tuesday be the day?!?!

as the others said i feel that it has to be this month! this tuesday hopefully! but this month im sure they will, steves biggest concern is the ipad. I'm no business person but if it were me id release the new MBP before the ipad so people can still focus on it.

as for the ipad...anyone think they would make a deal when you purchase the new macbook pro?? you know like how they did when the 27inch imac came out and gave out free itouch's? im not saying the ipad woiuld be free but maybe a huge discount?

let me knwo!

 

[Dolemite1]

Hi guys

New to this site, but it was recommended to me since i am about to buy a new Macbook in the next 2 weeks. I would love to see the Mac's keep pace with the new Intel i series processors, and HDMI out would be great too. But those things are not deal breakers for me. I have owned several laptops, but the plastic body construction and overall low build quality has left me wanting. I would gladly pay more for a quality constructed laptop that lasts a long time. I understand that the Macbook pro line has the Apple tax on it, and many of you on this forum think the specs are outdated. But in my case, nothing I need to do cannot be run on them in their current state. For many, the specs are all important, but build quality is my number one, followed by the Mac OS. User experience trumps all the hardware in my opinion. Chasing the spec happy crowd is not the way to go in my opinion, and I hope Apple never goes that route. PC hardware changes or updates too often to go there.

 

[Azrael169]

I've been using macs for 5 years now (first powerbook G4 and now MBP). My current MBP just died and i'll be taking it in to see if its repairable or not next week (actually both Macs i've had have had problems but thankfully so far been taken care of by free extended warranty), regardless lately i've been looking at buying a new laptop. My laptop is used mainly for Uni but i do like to play the occasional game and the current MBP started to struggle... While waiting for the new MBP i've started looking around and came across this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220696

Asus 16", i720QM, 4gb Ram, Radeon HD 5730 1GB for $1100US

Taking into consideration conversion and shipping that would probably run me up to $1300 - $1400AU. Someone even mentioned that for another $80US you can get a battery that doubles its life (3-4hours)

This is the dilemma, with the new MBP's coming out i dont even know if apple will be matching these specs. Even worse if they do the price is probably going to be double. Really wouldnt mind paying $400-600 premium to get the Mac version but double! Having a long hard think about my next purchase

 

[MorphingDragon]

I've been using macs for 5 years now (first powerbook G4 and now MBP). My current MBP just died and i'll be taking it in to see if its repairable or not next week (actually both Macs i've had have had problems but thankfully so far been taken care of by free extended warranty), regardless lately i've been looking at buying a new laptop. My laptop is used mainly for Uni but i do like to play the occasional game and the current MBP started to struggle... While waiting for the new MBP i've started looking around and came across this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220696

Asus 16", i720QM, 4gb Ram, Radeon HD 5730 1GB for $1100US

Taking into consideration conversion and shipping that would probably run me up to $1300 - $1400AU. Someone even mentioned that for another $80US you can get a battery that doubles its life (3-4hours)

This is the dilemma, with the new MBP's coming out i dont even know if apple will be matching these specs. Even worse if they do the price is probably going to be double. Really wouldnt mind paying $400-600 premium to get the Mac version but double! Having a long hard think about my next purchase

ASUS is a good brand, my old Asus laptop would work if I didn't fiddle around with the cooling system.

 

[imat.1989]

@MorphingDragon, shot, another Waikato University student =D

Hey all!

A new member here, just waiting like the rest of you for the new processor MacBook Pro's due to be released soon!

Semester A is almost here and I really hope Apple releases the upgraded processor Macbook before it starts!

 

[MorphingDragon]

@MorphingDragon, shot, another Waikato University student =D

Hey all!

A new member here, just waiting like the rest of you for the new processor MacBook Pro's due to be released soon!

Semester A is almost here and I really hope Apple releases the upgraded processor Macbook before it starts!

I have to do the CUP course.

 

[MorphingDragon]

@MorphingDragon, shot, another Waikato University student =D

Hey all!

A new member here, just waiting like the rest of you for the new processor MacBook Pro's due to be released soon!

Semester A is almost here and I really hope Apple releases the upgraded processor Macbook before it starts!

I have to do the CUP course.

 

[INeedAMacBook]

Yup - that would be nice. My guess is this Tuesday for the update.

I think they will want the new MBP hype to calm down a little for the iPad. Any later and it will conflict (reduce the focus).

aaaaa very clever plus valentines day is over

 

[Winter Charm]

Originally Posted by medic965
Here is my dilema. I am really want a MBP but I am getting sick of waiting. I looked at Dell and here is the spec for a similar priced Dell

NEW 2010 Intel® Core™ i5-520M 2.40GHz (2.93Ghz Turbo Mode, 3M cache)
4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz
Back-lit Keyboard
15.6” Full High Definition (1080p) High Brightness LED Display with TrueLife™ and Camera
500GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
8X Slot Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
85 Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell)
Video Card ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 4570, 512MB
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi MB
Dell 1520 Wireless-N Card
Microsoft™ Office® Home & Student 2007
McAfee SecurityCenter, 15-Months
Dell Wireless 365 Bluetooth Internal (2.1)

I am looking at the MBP 13 with 4gb Ram and a 320gb HDD. Do I wait or buy the Dell. I am not in a huge hurry just finding it hard to wait. I do really like the Mac OS from the little I have played with it but I have never owned a Mac so I can't speak from experience. Any good help is appreciated.

Thanks


Okay. Here's the thing. My dad bought the XPS 16 just a few weeks ago (the one with 45nm processors) and i got a white macbook for $799 * an AMAZING Deal*

Funny thing is, his bluetooth broke in a week and he is already having problems with lojack. Furthermore, since you've never owned a mac, let me tell you that my $799 white macbook outperforms his $2500 dell... The Mac OS is so rock solid that it does really really well, even on Core 2 duo and 2 Gigs of ram. it does surprisingly well.

If you look at hardware only, the mac seems overpriced, but if you look at the total cost of a PC (from extra software that is junk - Moviemaker... etc.) that you will have to replace with something better. (like Pinnacle - which, while its a good program is so crash prone it gave my dad's laptop the BSOD (and its like $200 software) compared to iMovie - which comes free with any mac, and all the other super good reliable software that comes with mac... and you look up the price of reliable windows equivalents (there really arent any "equivalents" but the best u can have under windows) then, you pay about teh same but the macs are resistant to viruses, dont crash, and perform better on the same OR even on LESSER hardware.

A very good professor of mine said, we have all the hardware we need... its the software that lacks in intelligent design. He then made a joke about this being the reason he was an user -- because their software is intelligently designed. This is the reason microsoft couldnt enter the tablet spectrum as well - i DONT want crashy, buggy windows on a tablet. The only reason they didnt put windows on a phone.. cuz the hardware couldnt handle it...

Anyways, bac to my story, my dad ended up returning the dell, and he bought my white (current gen) Macbook and is now using iMovie to edit the 12 or so gigs of HD video that he has. and he is happy because it doesnt bluescreen... its rock solid, and he told me in about 2 days that his next one will be a mac and that he will replace our desktop with an iMac.

 

[fizzypop]

Buying New, Outdated Macs

I can't wait for the new computers to come out. My computer is going on six years now, and it's starting to die. However, realistically, the current MBP would blow my mind anyways since I'm used to working on a much older model. (I still have power pc.)

My question is, is there a place where I can buy the current MBP for a reduced price once the new MBP comes out? Does anyone have any advice on where to buy new (unused) but older model Macs? I'd imagine places would still have stocks of them. Also, can anyone answer intelligently as to how much the price may drop? Thank you guys!

I really want to get a new computer so badly. I'm almost ready to cave!

 

[fynwine350z]

But in my case, nothing I need to do cannot be run on them in their current state.

Again -- it's not about needing the new specs, it's about getting the most out of your money. If I can give you twice as much tomorrow as I can today for the same price, why on earth would you settle for buying today?

My question is, is there a place where I can buy the current MBP for a reduced price once the new MBP comes out?

Ebay definitely, and possibly apple's refurb store. I imagine there is going to be quite a bit of people who already bought one this month that are going to try and dump theirs off to get the new version when it releases.

 

[Bob71]

I can't wait for the new computers to come out. My computer is going on six years now, and it's starting to die. However, realistically, the current MBP would blow my mind anyways since I'm used to working on a much older model. (I still have power pc.)

My question is, is there a place where I can buy the current MBP for a reduced price once the new MBP comes out? Does anyone have any advice on where to buy new (unused) but older model Macs? I'd imagine places would still have stocks of them. Also, can anyone answer intelligently as to how much the price may drop? Thank you guys!

I really want to get a new computer so badly. I'm almost ready to cave!

They'll show up in the refurb store, I've never bought from there so I don't know if they will have unopened ones, but that's the place to look.

 

[INeedAMacBook]

hey, go to the refurb store and look at macbook pro, all of them are the current gen macbook pros whith different specs, mabey aple are trying to sell them off while they are still the current gen and not when the new 1s come out cos then they would sell for even less

 

[hackum]

so how soon is imminent?

 

[INeedAMacBook]

wait i just looked at US, uk, spain, canada, france and germany and italy and ALL have the current mbp and mba on there refurbished list, 3 out of them only have mbp and mba on their refurb store and almost all of them only had the current versions of the mbp with all the different typs of configerations

 

[Peace]

so how soon is imminent?

imminent
adjective
a ceasefire was imminent: impending, close (at hand), near, (fast) approaching, coming, forthcoming, on the way, in the offing, in the pipeline, on the horizon, in the air, just around the corner, coming down the pike, expected, anticipated, brewing, looming, threatening, menacing; informal in the cards.

 

[INeedAMacBook]

imminent
adjective
a ceasefire was imminent: impending, close (at hand), near, (fast) approaching, coming, forthcoming, on the way, in the offing, in the pipeline, on the horizon, in the air, just around the corner, coming down the pike, expected, anticipated, brewing, looming, threatening, menacing; informal in the cards.

ok ok i get it it mean close.... geez

 

[tkirmani]

wait i just looked at US, uk, spain, canada, france and germany and italy and ALL have the current mbp and mba on there refurbished list, 3 out of them only have mbp and mba on their refurb store and almost all of them only had the current versions of the mbp with all the different typs of configerations

you know whats funny theyre all mostly the 17inch looks to me they want to get rid of the 17 and put the 13 and 15 down to a reduced price when they bring out the new ones...maybe tuesday is the day?!