wait i just looked at US, uk, spain, canada, france and germany and italy and ALL have the current mbp and mba on there refurbished list, 3 out of them only have mbp and mba on their refurb store and almost all of them only had the current versions of the mbp with all the different typs of configerations
Until yesterday, they didn't have any of the stock 13" models. However, yesterday they added two stock 13" MBP models, and they appear to have all the other models except the entry level 15" MBP. Perhaps this is a final push to clear out some old stock before Tuesday??
Also, to add my $0.02 worth to the discussion re: Apple's Hardware/Prices/"Apple Tax". My biggest beef with Apple is that they do not update their prices between product updates. I've been burned twice by this, the first being my very first Mac, a 17" PowerBook in January 2005, and again a few months ago when I bought a 24" iMac just over a month before they released the updated iMacs.
Both times they added fairly significant upgrades, other than just bumped specs. Both times, the new updated products came in cheaper for the same "model line". I bought the entry-level 24" iMac, and the 27" iMac that came out later was $300 cheaper (in Canada). So, not only was I out-spec'ed, I also paid more for it. 5 years ago, Apple didn't give a hoot about what had happened to me, but oddly enough, this last time Apple Customer Care did make an effort to satisfy me. It is odd because this last time, well over a month had passed from when I had purchased it to the updates, but 5 years ago it was only about 3 weeks. For those of you who may wonder, I got a free 1 TB Time Capsule for my troubles, which I turned around and sold to recuperate part of my loss.
So, from my examples, the ultimate problem I find is the lack of pricing updates. I had purchased a Mac near the end of the product's line. These prices were the exact same price as when that product had first come out. Perhaps Apple has bumped prices in the past without bumping specs, but I can't remember this ever happening in the past. On the day they are released, the prices are "competitive", with the obvious Apple tax which many people are still willing to pay. However, as time goes on from the launch date, those computers become cheaper to make. By the end of the product line, the so-called Apple tax has increased significantly. For the unfortunate soul who purchases a Mac and opens it the day before a new product update, they are likely completely out of luck. All of a sudden Apple releases a new product with better specs, and often at a cheaper price. So you have lost value in both having an older model, but also having paid more for that same "model".
If Apple were to reduce their prices say once a month or something, I (and I assume many others) would have much less difficulty purchasing Macs. Their prices would also seem much more competitive through the product's line. If the current MBP models were reduced in price by a few hundred dollars than what they are now, I would have no difficulty buying one right on the spot. Now, I have a deadline of buying a MBP by the end of the month, so if they update them by then I will likely have no choice. But, if I knew that the newer models wouldn't be over-spec'ed and under-priced, I wouldn't feel like I was making a foolish purchase.
Anyway, I think I've said enough, especially for my first MR post. I sure hope the new MBPs come out Tuesday...