Apple is not stupid. Dont you think they would consider the fact that arrandle is going to run hotter than c2d? In my eyes, this is deff fake.
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Apple is not stupid. Dont you think they would consider the fact that arrandle is going to run hotter than c2d? In my eyes, this is deff fake.
I don't wrote that... it's from another thread.
I don't believe it's true, they must know the specs before they start production with the arrandle.
I hope the design of the Macbook Pro stay the same(i like it), i don't hope it will be the same as the macbook!
The TDP of the i3/5/7 is higher than the core 2 duo so it's conceivable that Apple have had trouble with this. Shame if it's true as it could mean quite a delay.
Cheers,
jahman
The TDP of the Core i processers is the same as the C2D processers currently being used; it's just that the TDP numbers for the Core i processers includes the integrated graphics' TDP.
I shouldn't have implied that it was for all of them. Some of them have higher TDPs, particularly the i7, which may be the problem. The max TDP of the Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile was 35W as far as I'm aware. Some i7 CPUs are 45W and the quad core extreme is 55W. Those values could be enough to give the Macbook Pro design problems.
Cheers,
jahman
On the plus side, it could mean a quad core 17 incher
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jahboo
i sincerely do not see any plus side in a core 7 if it is too hot
it wont happen
It's almost certainly overkill but some people would welcome the extra performance.
Cheers,
jahman
The max TDP for the i7 620 (that being the Arrandale i7 and thus the i7 that Apple would stuff into an MBP) is 35W for the processer itself (not including the integrated graphics), same as all the other non-ULV/CULV Arrandale i3/i5/i7.
Apple might have a reason for using the 45W quad core parts, possibly in the 13" or 15", and there's still the 55W quad core as a flagship model for the 17". Heat problems could always be caused by whatever discrete graphic card they want to put in there too.
Cheers,
jahman
I might be crazy but tell me everyone thinks....
Intel is releasing another chip in the 1Q of 2010 that is called "Gulftown" not arrandale. The chip was originally going to be called core i9, but intel decided to just make it a variation of i7. It has 12 mb L3 cache. Is there a chance that the mbp are being delayed to incorporate this chip??
Intel is releasing another chip in the 1Q of 2010 that is called "Gulftown" not arrandale. The chip was originally going to be called core i9, but intel decided to just make it a variation of i7. It has 12 mb L3 cache. Is there a chance that the mbp are being delayed to incorporate this chip??
No, actually, it's highly unlikely. I'm pretty sure the poster that said there were heating problems was just a random person trying to stir up more frenzy. It's already a miracle that Apple's using desktop processors in the iMac.
i belive those are being used for the mac pros, i dont think the 17 inch will be able i7 never mind i9 lol, i would rather they just use i5 and keep the desighn and battery life
I'd prefer it over a DVD Drive.
I can't remember the last time I used one since ripping my CD collection in 320VBR
First of all, hello together. I'm new here and it would also be my first mac. That's why I did research. I wouldn't be really amused about a bigger release after having bought my first mac and therefore I'll be waiting. I've followed the rumors and in my opinion we're talking about the 2nd of march. It's funny to read it all. Sounds for me like doing detectice work as its best . But, what are the experiences about the rumors in the past like SKU at Bestbuy and whatever. How often did it work?
It's funny to read it all. Sounds for me like doing detectice work as its best . But, what are the experiences about the rumors in the past like SKU at Bestbuy and whatever. How often did it work?I didnt even think about that haha. Ive been so mbp focused the past few days, i forgot apple sells other computers. The new mbp better come out soon
There's not much extra performance, just a lot more heat.
A (dualcore) Core i7-620M is faster than the (quadcore) Core i7-720M in almost every benchmark, especially including multithreaded ones.
Of course Apple could go for the higher clocked versions but even the 720M already has a TDP of 45W for the CPU alone compared to the 620M's 35W for CPU and chipset combined.
Until Intel releases their mobile quad-cores in 32nm form, the 620M is the CPU to have in a portable workstation.
hello jahman
i guess you have not being paying attention to apple
they marketed their mbp for their battery life,
what you want is totally against apple last 2 year decisions, 9cooling down the laptops and increase battery life)
only people who really needs amazing graphics are the one that wants to play videogames
i do not know anybody that ever bought a mac for video games, since pc is the videogames computer
mac does not have enough market and 80% of the videgames are not for mac
so THERE IS NO WAY APPLE GONNA PUT 45W OR 55W PROCESSOR IN MBP (since they would have to make it much bigger to have space to cool the heat down)
or overkill graphics that are too hot or drain battery life
SORRY
Look around in the "Waiting for Arrandale" Thread, there were benchmarks posted. Or google it.
It's the low clock-speeds that break the 720QM's back.
Cheers!
As you can see, I am a newbie! At least, the last Apple I bought was a PowerBook circa 1993! Apple is, however, huge with photogs and video editors. Many of them would appreciate the extra oomph of a quad core processor and, let's face it, if you've got a machine that can last 7-8 hours packing an Intel Core 2 Duo, then it's still going to be 4-5 hours with a quad core i7. In the PC world, that would be eminently acceptable.
Cheers,
jahman
I have read about some major heat problems associated with i7 + turbo with one particular manufacturer's laptop. The internal temp reaches over 100 degrees F and causes the units to shut down. I don't know if a fix has been achieved, but it seems that the problem is associated with the turbo function, a function that is designed to provide overclocking of the chip to get a boost in power/speed in demanding situations.
Perhaps Apple is waiting for the overheating problem to be remedied or for an alternate choice to become available. Apple would probably delay a series upgrade if one of the product components, (core i7) were problematic.
I wonder how long it would take Intel to sidestep the overheating issue.
Perhaps Apple is waiting for the overheating problem to be remedied or for an alternate choice to become available. Apple would probably delay a series upgrade if one of the product components, (core i7) were problematic.
I wonder how long it would take Intel to sidestep the overheating issue.
This processor should be perfect for the Mac, since it even starts with an i!
(First post, lame pun, but someone had to say it!)
Oh, btw, I want a mbp, etc..
i just cant see why they dont use i5's instead ( cooler and keep the batttery life) and have the intergrated graphics and use nvida optimus (search it on google, u can swap between the arrendale graphics and nvida 1's instantly)
that would be great
that would be great
Sorry, but no. Since there have been some posts recently about TDP, you'll find that the hexacore processors would probably not be good candidates for a mobile platform.