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A better deal would be to use Bitwarden for $0/year, or $10/year if you want 2FA support and a few other features.
+1000 for Bitwarden. The price is better, plus the interface is (subjectively) significantly better than either 1Password or LastPass (I have to use LastPass regularly for work; I only used 1Password briefly).

Keychain's not even in the same league as these tools... although to be fair it doesn't really try to be.
 
Do people really have THAT many passwords? :rolleyes:

Over 200 in both personal and work accounts, and for the longest time, I have relied on 1password to generate random passwords meeting some convoluted list of random requirements whenever it was time to change them.

I continue to wish for a stand-alone keychain app that lets me retrieve my passwords without needing to go into the settings app every time.
 
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I recall when 1Password was barely off the ground and they were urging (begging) people to vote for them as the product of the year. Many of us stayed early on with them and now that they are big shots, we are the forgotten ... the very folks that helped them. Even the little guy who becomes a big guy has a terrible memory.
 
I hate having yet another subscription, but 1Password has CHANGED MY LIFE. I am not kidding. I can keep all my family's credentials in sync and it is well worth the money. Yes you can set up Bitwarden with some IT knowledge, and yes there are other tools out there that may have less features. Coming from iCloud Keychain, 1Password blows it out of the water (especially when you use a PC). I have done a deep dive into their encryption and it is top-notch. It is well worth the money.
I just switch from 1p (used it for 10+ years!!) to Bitwarden about 6 months ago.

Absolutely no need for any IT knowledge to configure it. Config was fast and straightforward and I finally have family sharing. All this for free.

I think I’ll send them money just so they can continue their work.
 
I am still using 1Password v6.8.9 with my stand alone license. Works great in macOS Monterey, Also use 1Password v7 on iOS 15.
It stopped working with chrome a couple months ago. I finally had to switch to Bitwarden. Bw is pretty good so I don’t miss 1p much.
 
Ive been using 1password for free as a stand alone vault in my icloud for years but I think the time has come to make a call on whether or not to subscribe for the full experience or just switch to keychain for free. I'll most likely be going the keychain route. If it was a one time purchase Id jump on board 1password, but like many others here I really hate the subscription model and absolutely cannot justify paying them in perpetuity for my own personal information
I totally agree. When I upgraded to 1Password 7 they made it almost impossible to find the standalone software license (had to actually download and install the "free" subscription app, then dig to find a "pay to license" link in the menus ?). Then, when 1Password 8 eliminated the standalone license and 1P7 stopped working with Chrome about a month ago, I complained, agonized and raged about the prospect of switching to the subscription. I promise, i am the biggest hater of subscriptions out there!....but...(shh, don't tell 1P)...I actually like the 1P subscription version. It has made so many things soooo much easier. The tight integration into the browser makes filling passwords, changing passwords, and creating new logins way easier than the standalone version did. So, with great reluctance, I admit it's a good experience. Plus, 1P does have the best support I have encountered - the couple of times I have posted questions/problems, i have gotten a personal email (not a bot) within 24 hours, and a continuous, real dialog with a human with responses always coming back within 24 hours, and actually solving my issue. I support anyone who wants to boycott subscriptions to send a message (that's usually me), but in this case I gave in.

p.s. - they sell $125 gift cards for $99 on their site (https://1password.com/giftcards/), which you can use toward your annual subscription, so that can help ease the sting if you go the subscription route.
 
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Do people really have THAT many passwords? :rolleyes:

Is this a serious question? Most people have quite a few. You shouldn't be using one password for everything (in fact, even if you wanted to you often can't, because some sites impose password restrictions that exclude your chosen password). On top of that 1Password also can store credit cards, addresses, notes, software licenses, IDs, etc.

This is how they treat loyal customers… 50% off to the new guy with a price hike and forced subscriptions for the longtime customer.

That´s how I see it. A kick in the ass for loyal customers . I wish they lose more that they win.

I know of no company that reduces your cost the longer you stay with them. It's always an increase. If you didn't think the service was worth it, you wouldn't be paying for it. I pay $74.99/month for internet yet new customers can get it for $49.95. But of course their rate will eventually go up to what I'm paying. This is pretty standard marketing. Not sure why people act surprised.

And even at "full price" a single-user license is about 10 cents per day. You could more than pay for that with finding loose change on the sidewalk each day ? It's VERY inexpensive for what you get.

As long as I have to store passwords outside of my local network I would not use it even if they paid me.

Currently I will stick with 1PW 7 perpetual license and when this is not longer feasible I will switch to Bitwarden/Vaultwarden.

Easy problem to solve. Simply add a pin as a prefix or suffix to every one of your passwords when you create a login on a website, but don't store that pin in 1Password. That way, even in the unlikely event that 1Password is hacked and all your passwords are exposed, they still won't have your passwords - just incomplete ones. And if you think a PIN isn't enough, you can add two (one as a prefix, one as a suffix) or use a randomized string.
 
Do people really have THAT many passwords? :rolleyes:
To all those people who think this, I’d like to ask a question? How do anyone of you manage to remember just say 10 unique, totally random 20-character passwords? I can barely remember my own phone number. I have hundreds of logins, everything from work passwords, to Netflix, online shopping, forums etc. and thanks to 1Password they are all meaningless random long passwords.

Of course, you can use whatever manager you want to do this, but if you’re using more than just Mac, say Windows or Linux as well, then you need a 3rd party. To me 1Password is worth every penny.
 
You realize this is basically an ad and MacRumors gets a cut. This isn’t a 1Password ad to get customers.
And what a a good a little earner it must be, considering how often they run this ad!


As long as I have to store passwords outside of my local network I would not use it even if they paid me.

Currently I will stick with 1PW 7 perpetual license and when this is not longer feasible I will switch to Bitwarden/Vaultwarden.
And I am stuck on my perpetual 1PW 6 license, which can't be upgraded, and when that is no longer feasible I will switch to a product with a payment-solution that allows me to chose what features I need and when I want to upgrade. Ie a traditional license model.
 
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I know of no company that reduces your cost the longer you stay with them. It's always an increase. If you didn't think the service was worth it, you wouldn't be paying for it. I pay $74.99/month for internet yet new customers can get it for $49.95. But of course their rate will eventually go up to what I'm paying. This is pretty standard marketing. Not sure why people act surprised.

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This is true for the subscription model. Which of course is the big draw for the seller.

As it detaches the product benefits and purchasing decision from the payment it is much easier to always increase the price. Once customer is in the fold, they are much likelier to just keep on paying instead of go looking for another product. Just apply the boiling frog method (constantly increase price slightly) and you will make more money without any need to spend.
Then just watch the churn and if it gets higher than the price increase, replace lost customers with new people who think a onetime 50% discount is a good deal, as they don't realise they will spend a good deal more money over the years than they would with any other payment model.
 
It works on all Chrome based browsers (like Edge for example) but I get where you're coming from. Although I quite like Edge when I can't use Safari (mainly at work), it's quite a bit better than Chrome in my opinion.
I use Firefox for everything. I’ll us Vivaldi once in a blue moon, but not enough to do this.
And what a a good a little earner it must be, considering how often they run this ad!

They do use this a lot It seems.
 
I have fully switched myself and family to a combination of iCloud Keychain + Strongbox.

If anything, it actually works better for my needs. The only thing I miss is a Watch app.
 
This is true for the subscription model. Which of course is the big draw for the seller.

As it detaches the product benefits and purchasing decision from the payment it is much easier to always increase the price. Once customer is in the fold, they are much likelier to just keep on paying instead of go looking for another product. Just apply the boiling frog method (constantly increase price slightly) and you will make more money without any need to spend.
Then just watch the churn and if it gets higher than the price increase, replace lost customers with new people who think a onetime 50% discount is a good deal, as they don't realise they will spend a good deal more money over the years than they would with any other payment model.

I don't see it this way at all. When I make the decision to subscribe to a product or service, I consider the cost just like I would with anything else. And if the price increases, I'm notified in advance, so unlike the proverbial boiling frog, I'm well aware of the increase and can reevaluate my decision. If people don't make a budget and/or do their due diligence with regards to pricing, that's on them, not the "model".
 
If any one fed up with 1password twisted behaviour,, we have a nice thread on the topic of other viable alternatives:-
1password Migrants thread

I hate having yet another subscription, but 1Password has CHANGED MY LIFE. I am not kidding. I can keep all my family's credentials in sync and it is well worth the money. Yes you can set up Bitwarden with some IT knowledge, and yes there are other tools out there that may have less features. Coming from iCloud Keychain, 1Password blows it out of the water (especially when you use a PC). I have done a deep dive into their encryption and it is top-notch. It is well worth the money.

1password is good but it got evil.:-

1-Used to sell an app, now forced subscription
2-Uses Electron which is a heavy app to keep on all the time
3-Forces you to store your data in the cloud, their cloud. What happens if some hacker finds a loophole?

they got cocky honestly, but that is out of principle, if you like the product go ahead I used to love 1password but am not bending for their twisted business behaviours and I am not encouraging renting software.
 
I'm not sure why folks are focusing on the raw number of passwords
The real key is having totally unique long and challenging ones, as often as possible.

For many many key things, I have no idea what my password is and it's long and complicated and use 2FA
Everyone should be using some type of PW manager, no matter which they choose.
 
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