Debate: iPhone 8 Plus Versus iPhone X

[allthingsapple!]

Same here. Get ready for the multitude of gates. I predict micro scratch scuff gate on the stainless steel.

I agree which is another reason I am hesitant to return my 8 for the X. The X is undeniably beautiful but if we take into consideration all of the stainless steel apple watches that have been scratched there is no doubt the X will wind up being scratched too. It sucks but it's the truth. I love the aluminium on my 7 plus. I wish they would've put aluminium in the X but I'm sure the phone will be beautiful in person regardless.
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I decided to go for the 8+.

I have a 7 now, which replaced a 6+.

Reasons:

1) Cost savings went to the new Apple Watch and 4K TV. Trying to save a little somewhere.
2) I Wanted a larger screen again and I have no complaints with the quality of the current Apple LCD screens.
3) I'm leaving on a long road trip around the USA soon and wanted the new phone before I leave, mainly for the camera.
4) I'm very comfortable with current Touch ID and I am not ready to adapt to a new UI.
5) I get to use this phone for months before the X will probably be available. We will all be looking forward to the 2018 phones by the time people can reasonably expect to get an X.
6) I feel that the internals are basically the same between the 2 phones.

So true...I too ordered an 8 (not the plus though because my 7 plus right now is a tad too big for my hands and I miss being able to use my phone with 1 hand), and I was going back and forth about the X but I think I've made the right decision. The only thing I might have qualms about now is whether to keep the 8 or just go for the 8 plus. I love the extra camera features of my 7 plus (especially depth effect). But as you've stated, by the time supply catches up with the demand of the X we definitely will be looking ahead to the new phones.

 

[pmau]

For me the iPhone X is an impulse buy. Even at that price.
If I would be able to order directly after the keynote with the excitement still there, I would ignore the price.

Having to wait makes it less and less attractive, if it really takes until early or late November.
This was already problematic with the AirPods.

This is not a smart move, in my opinion.

I fully admit that I buy things because they are new.
I would also not buy an iPhone 8 six month later.
If my phone would break, I would replace it with a IP7 and wait for the next release.

Apple should know, so they must hate the delay too ...

 

[billhelm]

I'm going 8+ and going to wait a year to see if they have a larger "X" type model next year. I want bigger!

 

[ItnStln]

For me the iPhone X is an impulse buy. Even at that price.
If I would be able to order directly after the keynote with the excitement still there, I would ignore the price.

Having to wait makes it less and less attractive, if it really takes until early or late November.
This was already problematic with the AirPods.

This is not a smart move, in my opinion.

I fully admit that I buy things because they are new.
I would also not buy an iPhone 8 six month later.
If my phone would break, I would replace it with a IP7 and wait for the next release.

Apple should know, so they must hate the delay too ...

Agreed, if I could preorder the X at the same time as the 8 Plus then I'd have probably done it. However now I'm torn between the two.

 

[ItnStln]

I'm going 8+ and going to wait a year to see if they have a larger "X" type model next year. I want bigger!

That's an interesting option as well because by then the X won't be a first generation product.

 

[PTLove]

8+ for me. I spend a lot of time on a bus everyday and the larger screen (for 16:9 content) of the 8+ seels the deal for me.

 

[saltd]

I agree which is another reason I am hesitant to return my 8 for the X. The X is undeniably beautiful but if we take into consideration all of the stainless steel apple watches that have been scratched there is no doubt the X will wind up being scratched too. It sucks but it's the truth. I love the aluminium on my 7 plus. I wish they would've put aluminium in the X but I'm sure the phone will be beautiful in person regardless.
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So true...I too ordered an 8 (not the plus though because my 7 plus right now is a tad too big for my hands and I miss being able to use my phone with 1 hand), and I was going back and forth about the X but I think I've made the right decision. The only thing I might have qualms about now is whether to keep the 8 or just go for the 8 plus. I love the extra camera features of my 7 plus (especially depth effect). But as you've stated, by the time supply catches up with the demand of the X we definitely will be looking ahead to the new phones.

The 8 is overpriced-given all of the upgrades of the plus model, the 8 should be 200 bucks less than the plus.

Sadly, not everyone wants a GIANT Plus.

 

[allthingsapple!]

The 8 is overpriced-given all of the upgrades of the plus model, the 8 should be 200 bucks less than the plus.

Sadly, not everyone wants a GIANT Plus.

I agree with that as well but Apple has always made the original 100 cheaper than the plus so that doesn't bother me. I'm also on the ATT next program so I am able to upgrade every year anyway so why not get a new phone.

 

[andyp350]

Wow the vote is split exactly 50/50 at the moment.
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1) You can test the phones in the store when available, and then determine if you want to order one the model.

2) Pre-order when you are able to, and take the 14 days to decide if it is the right phone for your needs / wants.

Asking strangers on a forum about a phone they haven't used is like playing darts in the dark. None of the opinions posted (about their opinions on certain new phone features) carry any weight, at least they shouldn't. The only opinion that matters, is the one who will be paying the bill.

Nothing wrong with looking to the forum for confirmation of certain specs or features. But, to use the thread debate as a logical means to an end (at this point in time) is illogical to me.

One could ask why you are even on here at all if you don't see the point or value of gaining the opinions of like minded people.... You can get the specs off the Apple website, a forum is to discuss these sorts of things.

 

[fathergll]

Which phone are you getting and why?

I'm getting a iPhone 8 256 GB.

• Proven design that has been out since 2014
• Not going to pay an extra $300 for a noticeably bigger phone over my iPhone 6
• I don't use my phone enough to justify $1150
• Not going to be a guinea pig for FaceID
• My iPhone 6 is on life support and I don't want to wait for the X

If I had an iPhone 7 I'd probably just wait until 2018 for a new X that has bugs worked out. I'm not against the X. If it was a little smaller i'd probably get it but everything added up made me not order.

What are your thoughts between the 8 Plus and X?

I'd get the X just because of the size

 

[D.T.]

I have never had good luck with being an early adopter. Frustrating to spend a huge chunk of money only to watch the next iteration force your hand into updating because it fixed what should have never been a problem in the first place!

That's just my opinion.

Yeah, I've been buying on the S cycle, I waited for the second model year for a new car - but I'm going to give it a shot this time. My main device is a 6S+, and I just feel like an 8, while extremely nice and a good solid upgrade won't scratch my itch
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• Not going to be a guinea pig for FaceID

This guy has you covered ... though he is an app developer.

 

[Nigglesworth]

The X fits the size I want with the camera quality, but I can't drop $1529CAD for a 256GB model. For $200 more I can buy a MacBook computer??!! I used to upgrade every two years, but stopped at the 6 as it worked as was not that different than the upgrades. I am due for an update as my phone is dying, but am going with the 8+. I am worried it is too big, but we will see

 

[Sparky2012]

Coming from a regular 7. I was stuck between these two as well but have opted for the 8 Plus 256GB. If I find it's too big to handle, I'll return within 14 days and get the X later. Think that's the best way to decide. Mainly not going X initially cause of release timing (someone wants my 7) and the unknown of FaceID and how UI will be designed around the notch.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Wow the vote is split exactly 50/50 at the moment.
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One could ask why you are even on here at all if you don't see the point or value of gaining the opinions of like minded people.... You can get the specs off the Apple website, a forum is to discuss these sorts of things.

Read my posts again. I made a point to say that there is nothing wrong with seeking help and information on the forum from others. What is illogical (re: throwing darts in the dark) is asking strangers on a forum if they like the new phone, and seeking insight into which phone the OP should buy. Such remarks are meaningless with a phone that hasn't been released and none here have tested it in person. It is more logical for the OP to try the phone himself, either in the store or pre-order and use t he 14 days to try the phone.

If the phone had already been released and people here had the phone and could reasonably and logical give opinions, that would be a different story.

There is nothing wrong with my comments other than they go against the 'norm' around here. I am not ion the habit of blindly talking about something I have no idea about. Many here don't seem to mind.

 

[Deeds500]

Advantages of the X over the 8 Plus

All the apps that will be able to make the most of face detection, such as the anamojis

Less bezels, no home button, easier to hold in hand and in pocket, more ergonomic

Better camera

Newer tech

OLED


Advantages of the 8 Plus over the X

4th edition of the same form factor which probably makes it the most solid iphone ever built. You know what you're gonna get, no #gate issues, no unknowns.

More useable screen space, better aspect ratio

Touch id

No notch

Comes in more colours (love the look of that gold)

Cheaper

And apparently will have a bigger battery.

If the X is supposed to be the latest and greatest, it gives too much away to the 8 Plus

 

[Starfyre]

Form factor matters to me. Plus has nothing on the X. I like it when the enhanced features in big things come in smaller packages.

 

[Kiimora]

I am a fan of the + models , but on this occasion I fail to see the 8+ as progressive. With the X in the horizon, 8+ will not add any value to my experience.

Having said that , in the absence of the X i would probably change my tune for the faster processor, glass exterior & what ever 8+ is selling

 

[Deeds500]

Again, no truth to that statement whatsoever.

Rumor does not equate to fact.
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When others say the same thing does that make what is being said automatically correct?

You're basically saying "pic or it didn't happen". If there was a man dying in a pool of blood on the road with horrific injuries and not noticable stab or gun wounds, you'd probably say there is no truth to the rumour that he was the victim of a hit n run motor vehicle accident, because there's no proof. What part of X won't be available for most people until 2018 don't you get? Most people are going to be waiting for nearly half a year. What does that tell you? It tells you that Apple fell way behind with the X because it was trying to get touch id under the screen to work until it's cut off date. They woukd have had a point of no return date and if they couldn't get touch id to work by that date they would go with face id. There would have been a team of enginbeers working on both simultaneously, so if touch id couldn't work, then face id would be the way to go. And post the date of no return, they would still need enough time to prepare for the final design, keynote, marketing, etc.

It has nothing to do with manufacturing processes for the oled. Apple is an extremely resourceful company as is Samsung so they would have planned for the oled process. What they couldn't plan for was screen touch id.

Just because there is no pic, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Too many people in the industry with friends, too many leaks....are they all wrong? I highly doubt it. The X was definately rushed through, even the notch looks like something Apple couldn't work around. In years to come the notch will be gone and screen touch id will work, because of the time they will have had to perfect it.

 

[Apple_Robert]

You're basically saying "pic or it didn't happen". If there was a man dying in a pool of blood on the road with horrific injuries and not noticable stab or gun wounds, you'd probably say there is no truth to the rumour that he was the victim of a hit n run motor vehicle accident, because there's no proof. What part of X won't be available for most people until 2018 don't you get? Most people are going to be waiting for nearly half a year. What does that tell you? It tells you that Apple fell way behind with the X because it was trying to get touch id under the screen to work until it's cut off date. They woukd have had a point of no return date and if they couldn't get touch id to work by that date they would go with face id. There would have been a team of enginbeers working on both simultaneously, so if touch id couldn't work, then face id would be the way to go. And post the date of no return, they would still need enough time to prepare for the final design, keynote, marketing, etc.

It has nothing to do with manufacturing processes for the oled. Apple is an extremely resourceful company as is Samsung so they would have planned for the oled process. What they couldn't plan for was screen touch id.

Just because there is no pic, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Too many people in the industry with friends, too many leaks....are they all wrong? I highly doubt it. The X was definately rushed through, even the notch looks like something Apple couldn't work around. In years to come the notch will be gone and screen touch id will work, because of the time they will have had to perfect it.

You have a big problem with reading comprehension.

 

[acorntoy]

I went for the 8 plus:

- seemed better value for money
- longer battery life than the X
- cameras are identical expect for the OIS in the zoom lens, didn’t think it was worth the money.
- notch is beyond hideous and I won’t support it,hoping Apple fixes it.
- ppi of the x is honestly not that much higher than the 1080p screen in the 8+
- processors are identical with the x having a more demanding screen, meaning graphics will run faster on the 8+

I went to bed expecting to want an X, woke up the morning they were announced and completely changed my mind. I’ve never really had portability issues with the large phones (even when my 6+ got touch disease and I had to carefully hold it in my hand or it would break, no pockets) so I’m not in a massive rush for a smaller phone.

 

[Technarchy]

8+ for me. I spend a lot of time on a bus everyday and the larger screen (for 16:9 content) of the 8+ seels the deal for me.

Some can’t wrap their heads around the idea of a larger screen on the X being smaller in a practical sense than 8+.

Visual aids using an S8+ but the X will work in the same way.

Notice how native video content wastes tons of screen space, but full screen crops and zooms content which makes something seem off.

The Plus doesn’t have this problem.

Mind you this is a very mild example. All content will feel more cramped on the X. It’s for the user to decide if this a problem. It is for me personally.

 

[stabile007]

Well I ordered an 8+ for now...Whether I keep it or not is up for debate. I think they are both seriousily solid phones. But some things about the X hold me back and I want to see what actual reviewers (Who critically review phones and not just ra-ra-ra) and end-users think of their devices first. Likely by doing that I wouldn't get a phone until next year early at the best so I just figured I may as well wait until next years unit. But I am keeping my eye on its development.

As far as your topic goes? I think the iPhone X is the technically superior device with the most technology Apple feels comfortable shoving into a small form factor. I think the 8/8+ are excellent devices that would be excellent phones in their own right...if the X wasn't coming out which is over-shadowing them. Questions I will always wonder such as "Why not OLED for the 8's as well" etc and things like that will bother me. It almost feels intentionally crippled in some limited ways to differentiate the X more. Of course if the 8 was OLED then nobody would likely wait for the X and pay more unless they really really want that form factor/screen ratio.

 

[Technarchy]

Questions I will always wonder such as "Why not OLED for the 8's as well" etc and things like that will bother me. It almost feels intentionally crippled in some limited ways to differentiate the X more. Of course if the 8 was OLED then nobody would likely wait for the X and pay more unless they really really want that form factor/screen ratio.

Face ID, OLED and dual OIS are the core reasons for buying an X. Adding them to the 8 would have negated the X altogether for the most part.

 

[BeefSupreme]

You're basically saying "pic or it didn't happen". If there was a man dying in a pool of blood on the road with horrific injuries and not noticable stab or gun wounds, you'd probably say there is no truth to the rumour that he was the victim of a hit n run motor vehicle accident, because there's no proof. What part of X won't be available for most people until 2018 don't you get? Most people are going to be waiting for nearly half a year. What does that tell you? It tells you that Apple fell way behind with the X because it was trying to get touch id under the screen to work until it's cut off date. They woukd have had a point of no return date and if they couldn't get touch id to work by that date they would go with face id. There would have been a team of enginbeers working on both simultaneously, so if touch id couldn't work, then face id would be the way to go. And post the date of no return, they would still need enough time to prepare for the final design, keynote, marketing, etc.

It has nothing to do with manufacturing processes for the oled. Apple is an extremely resourceful company as is Samsung so they would have planned for the oled process. What they couldn't plan for was screen touch id.

Just because there is no pic, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Too many people in the industry with friends, too many leaks....are they all wrong? I highly doubt it. The X was definately rushed through, even the notch looks like something Apple couldn't work around. In years to come the notch will be gone and screen touch id will work, because of the time they will have had to perfect it.

Touch ID is dead for future phones. Face ID is replacing it.

 

[bbowser12]

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