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Delivery Dates 4/24-5/8

papa8706 said:
He's right, if you think Saturday's are the same game you're sadly mistaken
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That's not the point. He disputed that they work saturdays. Working is still working.

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Drew888 said:
Where did I say one different phone per carrier?
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the bit in bold below....

Drew888 said:
3 storage capacities (16, 64, 128)
3 colors (gold, silver, space grey)
4 Carriers (ATT, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile)

3 x 3 x 4 = 36
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Which you then used in your calculation, as I also bolded
 
shandyman said:
That's not the point. He disputed that they work saturdays. Working is still working.

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the bit in bold below....



Which you then used in your calculation, as I also bolded
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He stated they work it's just not the same as typical days, "It's about 20 guys in a building where 500 people work. It's a very specific thing. The belts don't even turn on"

I can confirm this is the way it is here as well
 
papa8706 said:
He stated they work it's just not the same as typical days, "It's about 20 guys in a building where 500 people work. It's a very specific thing. The belts don't even turn on"

I can confirm this is the way it is here as well
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But they still work. In the UK they deliver Saturdays, as I've had things before. The guy was disputing what the other guy said about them delivering on Saturdays.
 
KauaiBruce said:
I disagree. First, IGNORE the edition models. THOSE are clearly handled differently. There are only 2 sets of internals and 4 base metal color choices which is the complicated part to make. SO, without the bands there are only 8 total real base models to deal with (again ignoring the edition which is certainly not in the same factory). After that the rest is just boxing it all.

Phones have different carrier chips and memory choices. A LOT more than two real sets of internals.

All of the stores I know ordered 50 phones at a time in the hopes to get a handful. Someone had to decide which stores get what one which day.

It is far less complicated to process consumers only with a first come first served model for shipping. At this point they should have several hundred thousand ready to ship.
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there are only four different model iPhones now(2 for the 6, and 2 for the plus)
all made of the same material with the only difference being the exterior color and flash memory size.

Model A1586
Model A1589
for the 6, and

Model A1524
Model A1593
for the plus


I highly doubt the production of the S1 has anything to do with longer shipping times. The watch has 3 different case materials, each coming in two different finishes, and each in two different sizes.

They've also never sold one up to this point so judging demand is an even greater unknown. They've been selling iPhones for years now and have loads of data to see the distribution of different sizes and colors.
 
swordfish5736 said:
there are only four different model iPhones now(2 for the 6, and 2 for the plus)
all made of the same material with the only difference being the exterior color and flash memory size.

Model A1586
Model A1589
for the 6, and

Model A1524
Model A1593
for the plus


I highly doubt the production of the S1 has anything to do with longer shipping times. The watch has 3 different case materials, each coming in two different finishes, and each in two different sizes.

They've also never sold one up to this point so judging demand is an even greater unknown. They've been selling iPhones for years now and have loads of data to see the distribution of different sizes and colors.
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I stand corrected. I had no idea that few models handled all of the carriers in the world. There are a lot less memory choices than I thought now.

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Were there that few at launch? I still say the simple model of only shipping to preorders is much more efficient than balancing them between hundreds of stores in the world.
 
swordfish5736 said:
there are only four different model iPhones now(2 for the 6, and 2 for the plus)
all made of the same material with the only difference being the exterior color and flash memory size.

Model A1586
Model A1589
for the 6, and

Model A1524
Model A1593
for the plus


I highly doubt the production of the S1 has anything to do with longer shipping times. The watch has 3 different case materials, each coming in two different finishes, and each in two different sizes.

They've also never sold one up to this point so judging demand is an even greater unknown. They've been selling iPhones for years now and have loads of data to see the distribution of different sizes and colors.
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Just my opinion here, but model and model number are different...

Someone getting model number A1524 or A1593 on ATT is getting a different SIM card than someone getting the same model number with one of the other carriers...
 
Delivery Dates 4/24-5/8

Drew888 said:
Just my opinion here, but model and model number are different...



Someone getting model number A1524 or A1593 on ATT is getting a different SIM card than someone getting the same model number with one of the other carriers...
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I thought all the 6/6+ sold by Apple on preorders went with the Apple SIM rather than individual SIM cards? Either way, SIM card choice is irrelevant as they're not a choice that would impact orders, unlike the band choice for the watch...
 
shandyman said:
the bit in bold below....



Which you then used in your calculation, as I also bolded
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One could then argue that the 72 differently packed iPhones (72 different boxed iPhones with carrier SIM Cards) are like the Apple Watches with different bands.

The number of actual watches is 12. All Apple is doing is attaching different bands to the watch, just like adding a different SIM card to the phone...

4 for Sport (38 and 42 silver, 38 and 42 space gray)
4 for Watch (38 and 42 in stainless, 38 and 42 in space black)
4 for Edition (38 and 42 in rose gold, and 38 and 42 in yellow gold)
 
Drew888 said:
Just my opinion here, but model and model number are different...

Someone getting model number A1524 or A1593 on ATT is getting a different SIM card than someone getting the same model number with one of the other carriers...
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There are two different kinds of models.

AXXXX models are primarily for regulation purposes. Models will be registered with the FCC under these numbers. General rule of thumb - same radios = same AXXXX model number.

MDXXXLL/A etc are Apple's internal product numbers, which will be per variant/specification. MD is just an identified which is roughly the age of the model (e.g. they iterate through MA, MB, MC, MD, ME...). XXX is the product number. LL is the country (LL = USA, B = Britain, ZM = worldwide). A is the revision - /A = revision 1, /B = revision 2.
 
shandyman said:
I thought all the 6/6+ sold by Apple on preorders went with the Apple SIM rather than individual SIM cards? Either way, SIM card choice is irrelevant as they're not a choice that would impact orders, unlike the band choice for the watch...
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Apple SIM was iPad Air 2, not iPhone 6/6+

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Gooberton said:
iPhones don't deliver sat, so there's no chance they would move on a weekend
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The OP's question was not if iPhones deliver on weekends... It was asking if
UPS or FedEx work weekends in China...
 
Drew888 said:
One could then argue that the 72 differently packed iPhones (72 different boxed iPhones with carrier SIM Cards) are like the Apple Watches with different bands.



The number of actual watches is 12. All Apple is doing is attaching different bands to the watch, just like adding a different SIM card to the phone...



4 for Sport (38 and 42 silver, 38 and 42 space gray)

4 for Watch (38 and 42 in stainless, 38 and 42 in space black)

4 for Edition (38 and 42 in rose gold, and 38 and 42 in yellow gold)
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Not really. bands need to be made and are part of the final product, whereas SIM cards are more likely to be plentiful. Here in the UK, SIM cards were not in the iPhone box, but in an envelope on top of the box.

Additionally, as I said, weren't Apple SIMs used this time in the U.S.? Which means even less quibble over SIM cards.

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Gooberton said:
iPhones don't deliver sat, so there's no chance they would move on a weekend
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I had my iPhone 5 delivered on a Saturday by UPS......
 
Drew888 said:
Apple SIM was iPad Air 2, not iPhone 6/6+

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The OP's question was not if iPhones deliver on weekends... It was asking if
UPS or FedEx work weekends in China...
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No ups does not work weekends in the whole world is the short answer
 
Drew888 said:
Apple SIM was iPad Air 2, not iPhone 6/6+
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Fair enough. Anyway, SIM cards were not in the actual iPhone product box, at least here in the UK, so really that makes them pretty irrelevant in comparison to the watch bands, which are included in the product box.

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Gooberton said:
No ups does not work weekends in the whole world is the short answer
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Apart from deliveries on a Saturday.
 
shandyman said:
Not really. bands need to be made and are part of the final product, whereas SIM cards are more likely to be plentiful. Here in the UK, SIM cards were not in the iPhone box, but in an envelope on top of the box.

Additionally, as I said, weren't Apple SIMs used this time in the U.S.? Which means even less quibble over SIM cards.

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I had my iPhone 5 delivered on a Saturday by UPS......
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Having worked at Walmart Wireless, Some prepaid carriers like Virgin, Net10 and Straight Talk in the U.S. Had their SIM cards taped on top of the box. These and the unlocked iPhones (you guys in the UK call these SIM free) came with the SIM card removal tool.

But from the big 4 "contract" carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile) the SIM cards were already installed. They got greedy and these don't come with SIM removal tools- but you can still unlock these phones after you fulfilled your contract- with the exception of Verizon, where their iPhones already come unlocked.

They never have used Apple SIM on iPhones, only iPads purchased from Apple Stores. iPads purchased at a carrier store had that carrier's SIM card in it, not the Apple SIM. All iPads are unlocked in the U.S. thankfully.
 
shandyman said:
Not really. bands need to be made and are part of the final product, whereas SIM cards are more likely to be plentiful. Here in the UK, SIM cards were not in the iPhone box, but in an envelope on top of the box.

Additionally, as I said, weren't Apple SIMs used this time in the U.S.? Which means even less quibble over SIM cards.

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iPhones do not ship with Apple SIMs, at least here in the U.S.

So there are 72 different iPhones 6/6+ (considering the 4 different carrier SIM Cards)

Again, my opinion putting a different band on a watch is similar to putting a different carrier SIM in a phone...
 
macgeek10 said:
USPS will deliver on sundays in select areas, just sayin. I get Amazon packages all the time on sundays :D
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Yup, Sacramento is one of the first markets to get Sunday deliveries which has been pretty awesome these last few months.

For me, Monday-Saturday I receive packages from FedEx, UPS, USPS & Ontrac. On Sunday's, just USPS.
 
shandyman said:
Fair enough. Anyway, SIM cards were not in the actual iPhone product box, at least here in the UK, so really that makes them pretty irrelevant in comparison to the watch bands, which are included in the product box.

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Apart from deliveries on a Saturday.
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They are in the product boxes here in the U.S., hence you and I not agreeing on this :)
 
dontwalkhand said:
Having worked at Walmart Wireless, Some prepaid carriers like Virgin, Net10 and Straight Talk in the U.S. Had their SIM cards taped on top of the box.



But from the big 4 "contract" carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile) the SIM cards were already installed. They never have used Apple SIM on iPhones, only iPads purchased from Apple Stores. iPads purchased at a carrier store had that carrier's SIM card in it, not the Apple SIM.
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SIM card installed for the big 4 carriers when ordered from Apple? Or from the carriers direct? As direct from Apple, in the UK they're not pre-installed. If the U.S. Is different, then I stand corrected.

I already acknowledged I was wrong about Apple SIM.

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Drew888 said:
They are in the product boxes here in the U.S., hence you and I not agreeing on this :)
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As I asked in previous post, in the boxes when ordering from Apple? Or the Carrier? If the latter, then obviously that's irrelevant.
 
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