My slate iPad mini would beg to differ with that statement. It's certainly a lot more scratched up than my iPad 2 was.
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This appears to be one of those things most of the world has right. It can be more precise. And even temperature, Zero makes more sense being freezing vs 32F or 100 for boiling. Having a number like 82.4 is a bit better than something with 3/16th.
This is all people wanted to see in the video, that is all!
OK OK, yeah size by the numbers, it's thickness, weight.. Speakers... omfg I want to see them compared as it's not as wide as previous iPads and you are just beating around the bush in the whole freaking video!
You're welcome everyone.
OK OK, yeah size by the numbers, it's thickness, weight.. Speakers... omfg I want to see them compared as it's not as wide as previous iPads and you are just beating around the bush in the whole freaking video!
You're welcome everyone.
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It is "right" because more people use it as a standard, not that because it "makes more sense". It would be more correct to say imperial system is less convenient; yet it becomes opposite if your country uses imperial all over the place. I'm personally from metric background but I still had to point this out.
Same for the temperature. Zero doesn't quite make sense as freezing temperature on itself. It makes sense to most metric people because they learned 0 as freezing temperature in celsius. Using the freezing point of water as 0 degrees is an arbitrary decision, just as using 32 degrees in Fahrenheit. It could also have been boiling point of water for 0 degrees, because why not? Frankly, zero makes more sense as the lowest possible temperature; why don't we use Kelvin then?
Nokia aren't exactly selling mere megapixels though (though they do capitalize on the impressive number), in their defense; they are using an algorithm to choose the "best" color from a block of pixels to produce the final image. I suppose it's not terribly different from using a larger sensor at one level, though there are others here that are more informed on this than I.
If this community were "Community", you would be Britta, and everyone would have groaned loudly after reading that pile of crap.
I agree in part with you. I think the patented incremental Apple upgrades (sligthly thinner, sligthly faster, with a sligthly better camera) are less significant on the iPad than on the iPhone since the former has no contract incentiving people to replace it every two years.
I have no reason to upgrade from my iPad 3, for example. Sure, the iPad 5 will be smaller, but the size and weight of the iPad 3 don't bother me. I would like to update if:
The new iPad had some new (useful) feature, allowing us to do something (interesting) that today is not viable. A flash would fit here - today it's not viable to take pictures in the dark.
The new iPad had something improved so much that it would feel almost like a new feature. True multitasking, for example - I would love to be able to open GoodReader and Pages at the same time, so I could write a document while consulting a PDF.
There were a new and important app exclusive to the new iPad. Office for the iPad would make my life significantly easier if implemented well, for example; if it were exclusive to the new iPad, I would upgrade without a doubt.
The new iPad had a bigger screen. Something sligthly bigger, with the device at the size of a paper notebook, with a bigger keyboard and at the same time a smaller percentage of the screen taken by the keyboard, would be great for typing on the go.
But, to say the truth, only the first and the fourth points have anything to do with the hardware, the other two are a matter of software. And I doubt very much iOS 7 has any surprise in store for the announcement of the new iPads.
I think the marketing departments of the major camera manufacturers in the early 2000s are responsible for it, and yes, should be hanged.
However on the topic - a few years ago I would have strongly agreed with you, but the latest sensor tech is managing to get good results out of high megapixel sensors by combining the smaller pixels. The Nokia one is actually pretty good at this - as long as you dont shoot at the 40 or so megapixel setting. Canon have done a similar thing to get good focussing in live view mode.
Higher density sensors with smaller pixels are still mostly inferior to lower density sensors with bigger pixels, but the line is not as clear as it used to be. I think that its funny that manufactuers (e.g. Apple, HTC) are choosing now to push this point, when its less relevant than 10 years ago.
I grew up with 32F as freezing and inches etc.. I may be basing my statement of making more sense on how even it is. Sets of ten and it feels like it has a better structure.
Yes, enthusiasts have been beating their heads on the wall trying to get this message across for a decade. Marketing is all about capturing peoples attention, convincing them of a story, and then selling them something to fit the need you just created. But people tire of the same old, and people got tired of being told that they need more megapixles. Some marketing departments are starting to learn this over the last coupleof years, and are now focussing on the size of pixels in their consumer products. The way I see it, its just another number they can boast thats new and more exciting than megapixels. Sure, from a technical point, its better to boast that number than megapixels, but that alone isnt the answer to everything. From what I've read, the Nokia 40 megapixel sensor is cleaner (when outputting at 5megapixels) than the HTC big pixel equiavalent.
Future proof? The iPad 2?? It was obsolete the moment the 3 came out. That screen on the 2 is AWFUL. Fuzzy and crappy.
Anyway, I agree that the iPad 5 is a snoozer. Changing the bezel is not progress. Adding multi-user support is absolutely necessary, based on the way most households use their iPad. But we all know it's not coming.
OMG give up. Adobe already killed flash themselves. Why would you add an obsolete technology on a new device?
Edit:My bad, I thought you said flash.
The advantage is that it's easier to use for simple, everyday reasons like weather reporting. Fahrenheit has a gentler scale, meaning that you never need to worry about halves of a degree. In the end, you're dealing with 32˚F for freezing cold weather up to 100˚F for painfully hot weather, but that's only 0˚C to 37.8˚C (much more compact) if you're using the metric system.
As for the inches/feet thing: 1 foot is about the size of a foot. You can divide 1 foot by 3 to get 4 inches or 4 to get 3 inches. None of the metric system units are evenly divisible by 3 or 4, and 5 and 10 are less common numbers to need to divide by. The metric system is more suitable for science than for everyday use. But, of course, the imperial system is terrible for science!
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Technically we don't KNOW it. But yeah these rumors are a yawn. The only surprise might be if they don't shrink the bezel area on the full sized iPad but just make the enclosure the same shape. Or do shrink it and add the space to the useful display area. Would be a tad weird but it's Apple, they do weird stuff at times.
And with the launch of the 5S we can guess what might be in the full sized iPad. Only surprise will be if it's in the Mini as well. I rather hope so
True. I prefer the US system because that is what I grew up with and know the best. The other scale is good for science.
Are u like 12??? 41 megapixels do not equal better quality!!!!
NFC is a chip set not a feature!!!
You couldn't be any more ignorant. First of all, the current iPad is ALREADY 128gb. Sorry, you must not care about it that much if you didn't even know the current iPad has a "requirement" of yours.
Who cares about battery life? Nobody should be using their tablets all day? Wow. According to who, you? Battery life is one of the biggest things I appreciate about the iPad. And yes, I use it all day. Do you have a problem with that, Mr. I-know-better-than-you?
Another spec-whore who thinks feature abundance counts as "innovation." It's amazing how Samsung and the Android army have managed to distort the sense of what counts for innovation. Nobody claims that every iPad release is earth-shattering innovation. That's what the product genesis is for. After that, it's refinement and improvement. Occasional innovations when things happen organically. But just throwing abundance at the wall in hopes of something sticking is not innovation. Anyone with a lack of creativity can just hop on bandwagons and follow trends in the market. Innovators break from the herd and follow their own path. Which is exactly what Apple has done as far as NFC, creating comparable technology (iBeacons) which require no extra hardware. That has a much bigger chance at making an impact.
With x86-64 chips Apple could always buy the newest version only and let Intel figure out what to do with the old empty fab that cost them billions to build just a few years ago. One solution for Intel was to use the empty fab capacities to produce its own integrated graphics chips.
With apple-designed ARM chips for iOS devices Apple has to come up with its own solution to this problem. They don't want to sell their one year old A6 chip to the competition and it wouldn't be worth very much anyway. So they design completely new products like the iPhone 5c and put older "good-enough" chips in it.
Doesn't matter, things stay as they are even if people disagree.
Impossible! Every iPad has more in common with every other iPad than with any Android tablet. You can't compare the resolution of iPad mini and Google Nexus 7 accurate by the pixel and than ignore that these are two very different platforms. First you choose between iOS and Android and than you compare devices within your platform of choice. Everything else is insane.
It isn't a very hard engineering problem. Yet an unnecessary feature deliberately left out in the first generation iPad mini. Who's sole purpose was to establish a new form factor regarding size and weight. Apple preferably wants to add Retina to the iPad mini without sacrificing size and weight or even battery life. That is the essence of iteration, to improve without giving up on what you already have achieved. Its a little harder task to do than just adding a feature and let get everything out of place in the process.
Again humans are visual animals. We perceive over 90% of all informations with our eyes. That's why Retina is a huge improvement for everything you do with an iPad. And the high level of improvement is the reason why Apple will likely add the feature, not the so-called competition having it. The Nexus 7 also has NFC and Apple will not add that feature despite the competition having it for so long.
That's almost impossible for the screen size. It would be way too small. Perhaps a hovering multitasking bar of some sort might work. Imagine trying to have two documents open on an ipad mini.
Yes, because Apple would only use 41MP if it really was the most amazing thing. Since it isn't, they don't.