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Details Emerge Regarding 'Face ID' Setup Process on iPhone X
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Can't wait for Tuesday, mostly because all these leaks are ruining the whole event.
Yes, I know, we're on MacRumors. This year's rumors/leaks have been particularly dismantling, though.
Are you seriously asking this question or trying to incite something here?
While you are at it, how about asking:
How does Face ID work for people whose faces are severely mutilated in fires and wars?
I truly doubt the spirit of your post.
As I understand it, the phone will likely make a 3D map of your face with the IR camera. To unlock, the phone will match its 3D map with whatever face it’s seeing & unlock if sufficient points match. Since glasses don’t generally obscure much of your face - leaving your facial shape, cheeks, chin, mouth & nose visible - I don’t see them as an issue.
Like TouchID, the phone will only store the 3D map in its secure enclave & submit an authorisation token to apps or to payment terminals containing no personal data.
Also, like with Touch ID, if your fingers are obscured by gloves, by grease, water etc FaceID may not work with masks/balaclavas/false noses & those who regularly wear these when using their phone may have to remove them briefly to unlock their phones - or they could use the passcode.
So you will need to smile or wink at your phone to unlock it
Going to be an interesting keynote, though that is just markerting, it's when it gets into end user hands we will see good feedback
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Actually it's not that.
The question is, can it unlock just by using your eyes. It's actually a very valid use case.
Wearing a burka is completely unrelated to facial injuries.
When I owned the S8, I remember that you could unlock with your eyes, designers take into consideration cultural use case scenarios
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Touchid is actually much more intrusive , in relation to handing over your details. At this stage , as long as you have a photo Id of some sort, you have already given over your details for facial recognition.
Though yeah, people will make an issue of it. Next time people travel and have thier passport next to their iPhone X.... you gave away your details a long time ago
Do you whole heatedly think facial recognition to this degree is going to be secure?
Yes otherwise Apple wouldn't do it if they didn't believe it was secure. Just because other devices like the Note 8 use facial recognition doesn't mean Apple's version will be the same, for a start it will use 3D rather than 2D (which is why the Note 8, S8 and other devices can be fooled by simple pictures).
The information coming through in terms of how the system is expected to work suggests that, yes it will be that secure.
By making a 3D map of your face - hence why you need to rotate your head during set up - the system will be able to determine facial structure & check that the pre-determined number of points match. It’s not relying on eyes & it’s not recognising a picture of your face, it’s matching shape of your mouth, nose, cheeks etc.
Also the phone knows when you are looking at it, which could for example mean that if someone else picks up your phone it will lock itself or ask you to verify. Not saying it will that's just a possibility, according to the leaks the display knows when you are looking at it and won't dim the display (like it does now after a few seconds). This tells me that Face ID works in the background as well.
This is directly from 9to5 Mac:
Interesting to note is that the Face ID setup mentions being aware of when a user is looking at the phone. This falls in-line with previous discoveries:
Attention is detected when you are looking at the screen. When attention is detected, iPhone does not dim the display.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/08/how-setting-up-face-id-iphone-8-will-work/
Picking this iPhone out the box gonna be an awesome experience I'm hyped
All I am saying is that at this point we will have to wait and see, but I tend to trust more Apple then bunch of people in this forum who jump on their silly conclusions before this feature have been revealed/explained. Like it always is the case with people in this forum.
No he doesn't have an iPhone X, no one outside of Apple has one yet. All of this that has been found is inside code of IOS 11 GM.
The GM stands for Gold Master and it's IOS 11 code inside the code are features for the next iPhone's , the code was leaked early and some very clever people (from 9to5 Mac) have dug inside it and found features, the Face ID feature can't work on the iPhone 7 or anything other than the X because that's the only device that will have "Face ID" but this video shows the features that will work on the iPhone X.
So he fabricated this video?
What I mean is, If he is Using FaceID for real in the video... How could he without a iPhoneX and the correct sensors. So either it runs on a 7S or he has completely fabcricated the video so it LOOKS like how FaceID works..?!?
No, it's all about the code he's installed the leaked GM on his current phone, Face ID won't work on any other device accept the iPhone X because it's the only one to have the Facial recognition system. It's only the animation it doesn't actually work on his device!
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...11-gold-master-reveal-face-id-setup-animation
I really don’t. I know if it’s active or not when I pass through the barriers when I use it most. My face isn’t near the phone and sometimes I have it face down.
I tend not to have sweaty fingers when I use it, so I don’t have that problem.
Not sure how you've reached the conclusion that AR requires constant authentication. It won't be constantly checking authentication either unless Apple is shipping a phone with 2 hour battery life.
Well not really. Time will prove how secure it is. We aren't going to learn that from an Apple Keynote.